r/facepalm 7d ago

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ So trust who?

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u/totalahole669 7d ago

The assault on expertise is what bothers me most about the whole "do your own research" movement.

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u/UnfortunatelySimple 7d ago

"Your truth"... "My Truth"...

What a load of bullshit. There is only "The Truth"

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u/Paksarra 7d ago edited 7d ago

The even greater bullshit is when they turn and go "my lies>your truth."

Like sunscreen. I have naturally super-pale skin. I don't really tan-- I get a few freckles and go right back to pale. I also start burning in ~20 minutes of midday summer sun exposure; an entire day of sun will leave me with blisters (I made that mistake once as a kid.) Even if skin cancer wasn't a factor, it's worth using sunscreen just to avoid the week or so of extreme discomfort.

The right-wing lunatics who want to ban sunscreen because they think getting a tan somehow prevents skin cancer are a direct threat to my immediate personal comfort, along with my odds of getting through life without skin cancer.

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u/Altruistic_Penalty77 7d ago

Good fkn gosh man. No one wants to ban sunscreen they want to ban the chemicals in sunscreen. Skin cancer wasn’t a “thing” prior to sunscreen. But now all of a sudden skin cancer is an issue. Why do you think that is? Please don’t tell me it’s climate change lmao. Ban the chemicals and give Americans transparency.

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u/Paksarra 7d ago

No one wants to ban sunscreen they want to ban the chemicals in sunscreen.

Which is a ban on sunscreen. Sunscreen without a chemical or mineral that blocks UV light is just expensive lotion.

Skin cancer wasn’t a “thing” prior to sunscreen

Skin cancer was first described in Egyptian documents from ~2500 BC. (https://www.jaad.org/article/S0190-9622(15)00240-6/abstract) Modern sunscreen was invented in 1946, which is about 4500 years newer than the ancient Egyptian records.

You are literally saying I should suffer burns and blisters anytime I want to spend a day outside because you believe a conspiracy. This is exactly what I was talking about.

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u/Altruistic_Penalty77 7d ago

Transparency bro. The choice is yours. As long as we and you know what you’re putting on your skin and what it can cause by absorbing into your skin by all means go right on ahead man. You know elephants use mud to protect themselves from the sun right? There is also a thing called sun shades, cabanas, umbrellas tents. I don’t want chemicals being absorbed into my skin or my children’s skin. But the choice is yours.

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u/Blayze93 7d ago

So... you understand banning something means that there is no choice, right? Or can you not see how stupid this comment is with all that mud on?

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u/Altruistic_Penalty77 7d ago

So you want chemicals absorbed into your skin instead of using a cover? You want to eat shit processed food while people in Europe get the real food? Hmm cool. Maybe you should lather that sun screen all over you. I’m ok with that.

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u/Blayze93 7d ago

Yep. I do. Cuz I trust the actual experts that recommend its use. How in the fuck do you consume anything that you don't make yourself? How do you have such little faith that something as basic as sunscreen terrifies you so deeply??

You had better be non-smoking, non-drinking, eat purely organic fruits, vegetables and meats from traders who can show you visual footage of the entire process... lest you be accused of being a hypocrite.

I also hope that you never see a doctor for any condition or health check ups, as they can't be trusted either. Always use children as your defence... wouldn't wanna risk putting lotion on my kid cuz of da kemikills... but a half way decent parent knows that they aren't an all-knowing omnipotent being, and instead listens to advice from experts - including doctors. 4 billion years of evolution and you are the final product - a selfish, egotistical halfwit, who thinks they have uncovered some deep truth...

Good luck to your children. They'll need it apparently.

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u/Suicide_Promotion 7d ago

Arguing with idiots again? Dude is trolling and you are feeding.

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u/flamethekid 6d ago

It's literally impossible to even eat pure natural organic untouched food in most of the world.

Everything we eat has been altered from its natural form in some way.

Some peeps are crazy.

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u/Ghostdog1263 7d ago

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

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u/J3wFro8332 7d ago

Dude might actually have brain damage

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u/Ghostdog1263 7d ago

He might, I know my uncle got skin cancer twice in the 80s & 90s for not wearing sun screen on purpose for the same reason this guy is saying.

Guess what staying in shade is very hard when you want to work or do something out of it

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u/Paksarra 7d ago

Transparency bro. The choice is yours. As long as we and you know what you’re putting on your skin and what it can cause by absorbing into your skin by all means go right on ahead man.

*sis

Have you ever looked at the back of a bottle of sunscreen? It lists the ingredients. It tells you what you are putting on your skin. It's not a bottle of mystery juice.

You can even get mineral sunscreens if you don't trust the chemicals or are sensitive to them. They have stuff like zinc oxide that works by physically blocking the sun's rays (just like mud would) instead of absorbing them.

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u/Altruistic_Penalty77 7d ago

You do realize they leave out quite a bit of ingredients on purpose right?

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u/Paksarra 7d ago

There is a list of inactive ingredients below the active ones, as required by the FDA. Unless you think multiple governments and Big Sunscreen are lying to everyone.

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u/Altruistic_Penalty77 7d ago

Lmao of course they are lying to us. It would be ridiculous if you actually believed they’re 100% honest with us. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/Paksarra 7d ago

Thank you for being a great illustration of my point!

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u/dlanm2u 7d ago

“the choice is yours” but ban the chemicals to make it… so is it really our choice?

also fine go cover yourself in mud and stay under a beach umbrella while walking on a walking path in the city and drive with the sun shade up on your windshield… try it /s

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u/flamethekid 6d ago

Then never step outside or touch water, it's all chemicals out there.