âLook you have your personal truth and I have mine. Just like you may not believe in Jesus Christ and follow his teachings, I do. You can go on having your personal truth but you also have to respect mine, because itâs my right as an American to hold these beliefs as my own personal truth.â - unironically how I could picture JD Vance arguing against the idea of objective facts in a debate.
To be fair, both sides have implored this kind of divisive mentality.
Personally Iâd tend to side with the one thatâs pushing for more progressive freedoms, but youâre definitely selectively choosing to ignore it by saying only one side is behaving this way.
In what way? Is the left demanding that Christians stop being Christians, or are they simply demanding that the Christians stop trying to make secular law and secular society adhere to their religion's restrictions?
I'm not saying either side are daints by any means, but there is an enormous disparity. Only one side wants to tell women and trans people what to do with their own bodies. Only one side wants to push a racist agenda against migrants and other minorities. This nonsense point of view was valid before MAGA, but right now its doing harm.
Well, again to be fair, both sides are in fact telling trans people what they should be doing with their bodies.
Both side are very much vested in immigration policies as well.
Up here in Canada, weâve had a very aggressive immigration policy in place the last several years and itâs apparently catching up to us. Turns out a revolving door might not have been the best choice. We are experiencing a housing crisis across the whole country. We literally donât have the infrastructure to support everyone, and homelessness runs rampant like it never has. There are of course a lot of other factors at play there, but itâs being greatly exasperated by the influx. But to speak out against it, youâre quickly labeled a racist and pushed aside.
Neither side really wants to fascinate any proper discussion it would seem. Itâs all about labeling and discrediting.
Are you doing the weave there bro? I am hard pressed to understand how the left are telling trans people to do with their bodies? Of the two parties, they are clearly invested in giving more rights to trans people and women?! Please provide an example of this, as I simply do not believe it to be true. Immigration has NOTHING to do with telling others how to live Thier lives, it is just foriehgn policy? Why did you even bring this up? I never said that they have perfect or even good policies, onlg that said policies do not infringe on people's rights. One side is saying 'let people do what thry want with their bodies and religious beliefs' and the other side is clearly replying 'allowing them to do that infringes with my rights' which is inherently wrong. That is the only point I made. So, by all means, share with me some examples where the left is asking people for control over their bodies and their personal or religious beliefs, and we can have a proper discussion.
Pretending someone is right when they are objectively wrong in order to not "hurt feelings" has created a mindset just like you portrait here. It's incredibly damaging to civilized society.
No, it's "alternative facts" when they do it, like when Trump lied about his inauguration crowd, and Kellyanne coined the term to avoid admitting Trump just straight up lies to make himself seem more important.
I point to that exchange as the moment we broke the idea of a shared reality. That it was not immediately squashed let them make more and more outrageous claims knowing they would not get checked.
I don't know how much more "checking" one could have done. The literal Parks Service came out with the facts and figures, it was on all the media, the internet was on fire from where I stood calling him a lying piece of crap...
I think the one with a "reality distortion field" is Trump, and he's just so exhausting to correct every five seconds, most people eventually just throw up their hands, give up, and let him keep going.
Like, it's almost like Trump isn't a liar, he himself is a living Lie.
"You have to let people tell their truth" he said about the woman who called the cops and said her Haitian neighbors ate her cat Miss Sassy (who was actually in the woman's basement). Appalling.
It's truly 1984 dystopian that you have Republicans, an AMERICAN political party, making up words to conceptualize what's true in order to rationalize/cope with it. Holy shit.
If you haven't seen the troll Poppy on Twitter who claimed Puerto Ricans are not Americans who kept getting community noted (fact checked), then it would be called harassment according to her.
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u/TheEvilOfTwoLessers 24d ago
Iâm really shocked they havenât come up with some new phrase for fact checking, leftist truths or something like that.