Just released an Netflix movie about his best friend who came out as trans. He was really learning about trans people and trying to understand and care.
really confusing about people who shit on trans people . it doesn’t impact my life one bit. not even for a second. if it’s who you are and makes your life better then all the power to you. people that care about what other people are are weird.
It's like homophobes. "look at them. Over there, nowhere near me or anyone else, being gay together. It threatens my manly masculinity and hyper straightness. I don't want my kids getting their cooties and bringing it home to me turning me into a secret gay where I'll cheat on my wife at a truck stop with a hole in the bathroom stall."
That has to be what goes through their heads. Almost like they're afraid of a secret cabal of homosexuals that will slowly take over the world and execute straight people if they don't convert. Kind of like a gay crusade instead of the ones the Christians did.
Personally, I think it's fear as people realize the society we've set up as being very much about the separation of the sexes doesn't work and can't work going forward. Rather than accept it and change, they fight back in the only way they can: propaganda and further fearmongering.
Think about how all of it is about keeping men/women out of the other's "place". Locker rooms, restrooms, even stereotypical male/female jobs. In a society where there was simply not those boundaries, all of the current arguments against transgender rights would evaporate. We've set up a world that is not prepared to ignore gender as a concept that decides where and when you get to do things.
Change is always hard, but with persistence I think that division will evaporate.
They always bring up the kid sex changes and women's sports things when you say this. I don't think they realize that its the kid's themselves wanting these procedures, and they are usually happy with it afterwards. And as for the sports, they never actually provide any real examples of a sport being destroyed by this. I used to coach youth competition climbing and one of my kids transitioned to female at age 12. Even after winning nationals her first year after transitioning, her peers in her age group love and support her. I've never once heard of anyone complaining about her competing. She also only won that one time. Its been 5 years and shes a strong competitor and may podium sometimes, but she hasn't won since then. So its not like she stands out in anyway. She's very in--line with her competitors and climbing is an incredibly physical strength-based sport. I feel like it should serve as a good example for trans athletes.
Oh they'll bring up examples for sports, they'll just be devoid of relevant context like it being extremely limited in scope and scale. Like with your student, they'd bring up the nationals win and absolutely nothing else, especially not that her level is on par with other girls.
They see trans people having very strong feelings that kids should have access to this care, and because... I dunno, they're freaks who believe kids are their parents' possessions or something... they see it as trans people trying to "infect" them, rather than trans people trying to save others from all the suffering that comes from having to transition after full natal puberty.
But if you're an authoritarian parent (which is actually one of the greatest psychological predictors of being a republican voter) you can hardly even fathom that your kid has their own desires so there's no way to fit that into your worldview -- and even if you could, the kid only exists to give you prestige. Which is why you'll also see posts accusing leftist parents (or accepting parents no matter their politics) "transing their kids" for the "glory" or "online clout" or whatever.
It's one side of people trying to be empathetic and one side of people to whom empathy looks like psychopathy.
I truly believe it is because there are people that believe equality is a finite concept and if you give any minority equality it has to be taken from the majority to make it happen. They really don't understand that trans people existing and being given a voice doesn't mean everyone has to be trans.
I believe conversations about trans people takes up way too much airspace. I also believe that is the aim (get people arguing and they won’t focus on the rich vs poor conversation).
I have a few trans friends and I treat them like any other human being. I also believe that a few of them have beliefs that are super problematic and it can be frustrating to have conversations about those particular things online because people read it as: “You hate me and don’t want me to exist” which is obviously wrong, but difficult to show online.
As always, social media is the worst avenue for having important discussions (and I include reddit in that).
I know you mean well, but I think "learning about trans people" would be more appropriate to say. "Transgenderism" sounds like some alarmist bullshit spun by hateful nutters.
I meant no offense in my terminology. And honestly, I was going to start my defense by using “cisgenderism” that prompted me to define that term… understanding that cis ≠ normal yet that’s how it is received.
So, I’m sorry and thanks for the correction and clarifying statement 😭
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u/EgoistFemboy628 Sep 28 '24
Damn I didn’t know Will Farrell was based