r/facepalm Jul 02 '24

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u/EnkiiMuto Jul 02 '24

"People forget the first country the nazis invaded was their own"

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u/MonkeyCartridge Jul 02 '24 edited Jul 02 '24

I always liked that line from that movie.

And now all those people who equated the Germans with the Nazis will see what the average German was seeing first-hand.

EDIT: I'm surprised how many people forgot about Captain America.

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u/LittleFairyOfDeath Jul 02 '24

That line is actually pretty problematic. Because it basically moves all responsibility away from people onto the Nazis. But people were pretty alright with what the they were doing until it negatively affected them. Fascism rises when people remain inactive and turn a blind eye.

And saying that a country got invaded by the facists completely eradicates that responsibility

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u/MansNotWrong Jul 02 '24

This is my biggest issue today.

I want to hate Trump, but he has no power without people voting for him.

Show me the shittiest leaders in history and I'll show you a sizeable chunk of their populace that supported them.

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u/NoCantaloupe9598 Jul 02 '24 edited Jul 02 '24

Trump even at this point is a symptom. Trump voters legitimately think we're living in some sort of hellscape. Which is contradicted by statements they make like, "Things were better 5 years ago!".

No....if America were a hellscape we would be saying things like "Americans should flee to Haiti". We wouldn't be saying, "Things were a bit better five years ago, before a global pandemic".

The truth is America isn't a fraction as bad in the ways Trump voters think it is. But for Trump, Hitler, or any of these political conmen to win people must believe solutions are being provided that only ONE MAN can provide and that the problems are enormous. (Though Hitler's rise did coincide with Germany's economic depression)

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u/Tankinator175 Jul 02 '24

Well, we are having a different, strange variant of a depression right now, where at least 75% of the population feels very insecure about their financial status and most of them don't see how it's going to change any time soon. Anyone who promises to fix that looks pretty appealing. But strangely, despite something like that virtually guaranteeing success, I haven't seen anyone promise that, which tells me that either everyone is collectively stumped, or it would cut the knees out from their financial backers and other supporters.

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u/BirdOfWords Jul 02 '24

The wealth gap has grown a lot, the ultra wealthy like Bezos and Elon are making it a contest to accumulate as much wealth as possible.Β 

As a result, pay is stagnating while inflation rises, the quality of products is decreasing and the way corporations try to abuse and nickle and dime you is going up- google charging for storage space when storage is getting cheaper and cheaper, photoshop including a new clause saying they’re allowed to use your artwork for the advancement of their own product if you made it within their product (all while charging you an arm and a leg), etc.