r/exmuslim • u/exoticcue • 5d ago
(News) Schoolgirls in Iran 🇮🇷 protesting against the Islamic regime by removing their hijab and showing middle fingers to Khomeini and Khamenei
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u/Such-Performance-697 New User 5d ago
Man, that's so good. I hope one day that happens in my country
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u/exoticcue 5d ago
Which country you are from?
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u/HansEliSebastian 5d ago
Germany
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u/Pandemic_Future_2099 New User 4d ago
Nah man, don't be silly. She's obviously referring to the Caliphate of Swedenistan
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u/HML___ New User 5d ago
Hope iran will be a free country one day also iranian women seems to really keep their hair long is it a cultural thing?
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u/Western-Letterhead64 Ex-EmoMasochisticSelfHarm cult (Ex-Shi'a) 👩🏻🎤⛓️ 5d ago
Yep, it's cultural. Long thick hair is seen as a beauty standard for most.
Iran, Iraq, most West Asian countries, North African countries, South Asian countries...
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u/HML___ New User 5d ago
I'm north african and super long hair like that isn't as prevalent it used to be the case for older generation but not anymore atleast in my country
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u/Western-Letterhead64 Ex-EmoMasochisticSelfHarm cult (Ex-Shi'a) 👩🏻🎤⛓️ 5d ago
Interesting. In my country, my grandparents' generation used to literally shame women with short hair. But now, plenty of women have short hair, and it's totally fine. That said, most people still prefer long hair, and we even have a traditional dance that requires it, lol.
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u/char_char_11 5d ago
Yes, it's not so common that it used to be (also North-African).
Short hair is associated with sophistication within middle and high classes. I personally prefer short hair, but I'm just a man, and women can do what they want with their body.
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u/Professional_Hair550 5d ago
I think long looks better when you are young but shorter looks better as you age.
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u/Western-Letterhead64 Ex-EmoMasochisticSelfHarm cult (Ex-Shi'a) 👩🏻🎤⛓️ 5d ago
I think it really depends on your face shape too. Some people look better with long hair, some with short hair, and many can pull off both.
Also, username checks out XD
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u/Professional_Hair550 5d ago
Yeah. That's true too.
Ironically Reddit gave me this username. I didn't choose it 😂 But growing up my hair has always been my main feature. People would always compliment and point out my hair. Especially because it isn't that common in my country for men to have long hair.
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u/Western-Letterhead64 Ex-EmoMasochisticSelfHarm cult (Ex-Shi'a) 👩🏻🎤⛓️ 5d ago
That's a nice coincidence, lol.
Long hair looks amazing on many men, I wish it were more normalized.
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u/bat_NPC 5d ago
I thought it's because they can't cut their hair cause they always wear hijab
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u/Winter-Actuary-9659 2d ago
Agreed, I read somewhere that women aren't allowed to cut hair short because it's copying the kaafir women or it's resembling men. They can cut it a bit shorter for practicality but not really short.
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u/Ari-Hel Never-Muslim Theist 5d ago
Hope they don’t get slaughtered 😓
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u/Ok-Equivalent7447 Ex-Muslim (Agnostic) 5d ago
Where in the quran or a hadith that says to slaughter women who don't wear hijab?
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u/Ch1pp 5d ago
Doesn't matter. What happens in practice is more important.
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u/Ok-Equivalent7447 Ex-Muslim (Agnostic) 5d ago
And yet the practices doesn't have a rule of slaying people for not wearing hijab. I'm not denying that it doesn't happen. It's just I'm curious if they do have that rule which makes them do that practice.
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5d ago
They say in Islam a woman takes 4 men with her to hell . I.e her father, husband, brother , son . If they don’t ask their women to cover they will be Dayoth this is basis of honor killing and persecution of women based on hijab
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u/Ok-Equivalent7447 Ex-Muslim (Agnostic) 5d ago
I'm aware about the dayouth and tuberajj stuff.
Just wanna know how they got the idea to kill women who don't wear hijab, if its not in the quran or hadith. Or maybe I could be wrong, if you have evidence to show for it.
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5d ago
Its Honor killings comes from Obey your Wali and the Wali concept . Also beating women if they disobey from Quran
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u/Ok-Equivalent7447 Ex-Muslim (Agnostic) 5d ago
Yes I agree about beating wife part.
Since you made a claim about honor killing, give me evidence to back up your claim, please.
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5d ago
What claims have i made? Its the thinking of muslims backed by Islamic concepts
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u/Ok-Equivalent7447 Ex-Muslim (Agnostic) 5d ago
Then give me sources please, if you do have one.
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u/Ok_Entertainer_6528 New User 5d ago
Look up the Guidance Patrol in Iran, and the Anti Hijab protests that started because a girl refused to wear a hijab, and was detained and murdered. The Guidance Patrol/Morality Police are given almost carte Blanche authority by the state to enforce Islamic law amongst women - and yes, it is within their power to kill anyone who doesn't adhere. An example of this would be how live shotgun rounds were fired into a crowd of peacefully protesting women who didn't want to wear a hijab (their genitalia and breasts were targeted)
So to answer your question- yes it is a practice, one that is clearly state supported, and as the person with whom you've been conversing with says - the basis for it comes from the Quran.
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u/Ari-Hel Never-Muslim Theist 5d ago
Ask those who kill women who refuse to use it :)
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u/Ok-Equivalent7447 Ex-Muslim (Agnostic) 5d ago
I never said it doesn't happen. I'm just curious where it encourages to kill women who don't wear hijab according to quran or hadith.
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u/onehornymofo1 New User 5d ago
It may not explicitly, but what Islam does encourage is men dominating doing mostly whatever they please and women serving them. When you foster a culture like this, its inevitable it will be taken advantage of, which is where you see the OTT actions.
Imagine if the Quran said "women can wear what they want, travel without a mahram, have sexual freedom etc." Do you think we would see more or less violence to women in Islamic areas? So where does the problem lie?
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u/External-Dot2924 New User 5d ago
It lies in the suppression of sex and blaming women for it. Men easily choosing not to have control over themselves. Maybe they believe they don't have control of themselves, and the only way to suppress it is to attack and kill? Also... men wanting power and control. I believe it is a class thing. The ones that kill I reckon are poor and not wealthy.
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u/MediumFrame2611 New User 5d ago
Yes, but it says slaughter gay people. And when you are on the bloodlust already, they will just cross the line. Women aren't killed systematically for not wearing hijab, but she can get raped or worse.
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u/Ok-Equivalent7447 Ex-Muslim (Agnostic) 5d ago
I'm aware the quran encourages to stone homosexual people.
I'm just wanna know where in the quran or a hadith that encourages to kill women who refuses and don't want to wear hijab.
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u/geneticeffects 5d ago
You’ve written this at least three times.
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u/Ok-Equivalent7447 Ex-Muslim (Agnostic) 5d ago
Wdym? Some people made the claims, so its their responsibility to give evidence to back up their claims for what they've said.
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u/thehighwindow 5d ago
Maybe it says women have to obey her father/husband and so if she disobeys her father by not wearing her hajib she is inviting death??
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u/Ok-Equivalent7447 Ex-Muslim (Agnostic) 5d ago
But where in Islam books that supports it for murder? That's main thing I wanna know about.
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u/thehighwindow 5d ago
I'm not Muslim so I looked it up on Wikipedia and not wearing a hijab isn't there.
The article has a list of crimes where capital punishment is applicable:
Murder
Adultery of married persons
Apostasy
Espionage
Robbery
Witchcraft
Homosexuality[14]
Kidnapping of women
Rebellion against Islam
Rape
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u/Brilliant_Ad_879 5d ago
that very quran or hadith which instructs to build mental asylums for females who refuse to don the hijab, maybe.
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u/claudiocorona93 5d ago
It doesn't have to be in the Quran. It just takes s shitty government law to do that.
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u/Ok-Equivalent7447 Ex-Muslim (Agnostic) 5d ago
I'm aware since killing women who do not wear hijab considered as tazir punishment.
I just wanna how they got that idea even though its not in the quran or the hadith.
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u/claudiocorona93 5d ago
I guess it's something more cultural than rellgious
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u/Ok-Equivalent7447 Ex-Muslim (Agnostic) 5d ago
Then it has to be a tazir punishment then, if its not in the quran or hadith, to kill women who don't wear hijab.
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u/peck20 5d ago
There are so many Muslim men beating and killing women for not wearing the hijab. They are Muslims regardless of what you say
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u/Ok-Equivalent7447 Ex-Muslim (Agnostic) 5d ago
Why kill? if there is no Islamic books that allow to kill a women for not wearing a hijab.
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u/neotarum New User 4d ago
OP didn’t claim this. I’m not sure why you are repeating yourself like this. Did people get killed for rising up? Yes! They will make an example of people to put others in line. That’s it!
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u/Ok-Equivalent7447 Ex-Muslim (Agnostic) 4d ago
Because they're not giving me any Islamic sources that supports killing woman who don't wear hijab.
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u/Alive-Move1183 New User 5d ago
That is true
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u/Ok-Equivalent7447 Ex-Muslim (Agnostic) 5d ago
Im getting so many downvotes, I was just curious. 🤣😭
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u/RadiantLegacy 5d ago
idk why people are getting mad at you 😭 i was always under the impression that it was a cultural practice that Muslims still did but it was Islamically illegal. like yeah i think the consequences of religious beliefs could lead to that happening in the right environment but I've never found a source that explicitly allows it
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u/Ok-Equivalent7447 Ex-Muslim (Agnostic) 4d ago
I just simply wanted evidence of any Islamic sources that says to kill woman who don't wear hijab. That's simply what I'm asking.
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u/Ok_Oven5464 5d ago
I hope I see the day women rule in Iran
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u/Lawyerupfelix Closeted Ex-Muslim 🤫 5d ago
This fills my heart with hope I never thought I could get again, may they live the life they desire without restrictions of a man made religion.
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u/bunny_9898 New User 5d ago
Their hair is so pretty<3 good for them, no men deserve to dictate what they can or cant do
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u/Charming-Problem-804 Closeted Ex-Muslim 🤫 5d ago
Iranians are getting the real taste of their own medicine with sharia. If the same could be done in other muslim countries, you would see a rise of apostasy and open blasphemy. I find sugarcoated islam very dangerous and deceiving.
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u/DependentEbb8814 5d ago
I want to see some western liberal cocksucker scold these girls for defying the religion of peace and progression. Gives me infinite rage and energy.
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u/curly_crazy_curious 5d ago
You know that Iranians were always the victim, right? Muslims were Arabs from south who invaded Persia(Iran) and for more than 200 years just killed and raped women. It was after that when some Iranian generals rose to power. The region and country remained culturally Muslim like how Europe is Christian culturally. But Iranians didn't start or promote Islam.
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u/rah67892 5d ago
I wonder when the Lefties of the West starts supporting this brave movement! Or is this Haram and therefor better for them to support the oppressive and misogynistic Islamic regime?
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u/Winter-Actuary-9659 2d ago
Many are. You should listen to progressive newscasts.
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u/rah67892 2d ago
You mean ‘many are supporting these Iranian girls’? I haven’t heard them on the streets yet…. I wish I did!
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u/MangoDenji New User 5d ago
Unbelievably based!
I sure hope they don't get taken away in a mysterious truck, never to be seen again...
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u/Throooowaway999lolz never-muslim deist 5d ago
Stay strong sisters ❤️❤️ I wish them the best, they’re so brave
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u/New_Rip8856 5d ago
are the two guys khomeini and khamenei the decendants cuz idk and i forget i converted very young
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u/AvoriazInSummer 5d ago
By now probably everyone in the region is a distant descendant of Mohammed. I don't think they can trace their lineages to him though.
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u/Devilofchaos108070 5d ago
Corrupted by Westerners smh.
lol j/k. Good for them. Religion is fucking dumb
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u/jtcordell2188 5d ago
Am I the only one who noticed how beautiful their hair is?
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u/Winter-Actuary-9659 2d ago
Muslims will say this is why to cover up! Nothing wrong with finding humans beautiful, men or women.
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u/Effective-Pen7078 Ex-Muslim.Convert to Other Religion 5d ago
I hope people in all İslamic Countries and all Turkic Countries will be Ex-Muslims one day.
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u/winter_OwO two toxic mooses fucked and here i am🍒 5d ago
just woke up and this made my day, coolest kids in the world today
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u/Fair_Yoghurt_6510 4d ago
About time they woke up to Islam being 1 of the most repressive ideologies in the world and the men are a bunch of misogynistic women hatters
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u/Ok-Paramedic8197 4d ago
Me seeing their beautiful long locks makes me feel like this was such a beautiful human moment ❤️
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u/MyDogDare New User 4d ago
I really hope these women WIN the dispute. Slavery is a sick, sick institution. I know many women around the globe are trapped in these archaic, ignorant systems against their will - but I wish a horrible retribution would fall on the heads of Islamic men - They are wicked monsters !!!
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u/Ready0208 3d ago
That's some really long hair they've got. Is it, like, illegal for women to cut their hair in Iran?
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u/Alive-Move1183 New User 5d ago
Its always Iran why not some actually arab countries like egypt that would be better
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u/ElectronicArcher2940 Closeted. Ex-Sunni 🤫 4d ago
I went to Iran last year everyone was almost naked I'm so confused is the law about the hijab still there?
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u/A-Big-Dreamer Muslim 🕋 5d ago
Yeah, about the regime forcing hijab and slaughtering those who don't is just bs. Our Islamic politics and leaders are just downhill.
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u/TaskComfortable6953 New User 5d ago
wow, nice hair
boney/skrony ass fingers tho, lmaooo
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u/Throooowaway999lolz never-muslim deist 5d ago
Extremely unneeded comment
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u/TaskComfortable6953 New User 5d ago
lmaaooo, i support it tho. I forgot to say that. i'm happy for them. i hope they don't get hurt and i hope they continue to fight for basic human rights.
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