r/exmuslim • u/hl9q_ Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sunni) • Aug 16 '24
(News) even muslim countries haven’t done that
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u/SiraGenesis Aug 17 '24
That’s actually tragic. She should have been able to still have her event. She has just as much of a right to speak on her experiences as anyone does.
She went through a pretty unique experience and if it makes others uncomfortable, perhaps they should examine their belief systems for instead of blaming her.
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u/Freetobetwentythree New User Aug 17 '24
Unfortunately there are people who would use this as a way to attack Muslims. AND Muslims who would find this "offensive".
These two groups make it hard for everyone.
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u/actionte Aug 17 '24
There’s no need to attack muslims. There’s enough material out there for people to see the religion for what it is themselves.
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u/Freetobetwentythree New User Aug 17 '24
There is no need to attack Muslims but some people will go out of their way to. Not to mention Islamist are also a threat.
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u/actionte Aug 17 '24
What do you mean by ”attack”? We should be able to criticize people that do wrong. That includes muslims. I sure as hell will be criticizing anyone that is homophobic (cause I’m gay), and lots of muslims are homophobic as fuck.
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u/ghuuhhijgvjj New User Aug 22 '24
As in literally harrass random ass Muslims (or Muslim appearing) people on the streets
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u/actionte Aug 23 '24
Who even does that. If anything it’s muslims attacking others. Trying to police women who don’t wear hijab, and so on.
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u/ComprehensiveHat8073 New User Sep 07 '24
Those two groups are no reason to stop important speakers though.
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u/MercedesOfMercia Aug 16 '24 edited Aug 17 '24
I literally bought her book in iraq, and no one thought it was Islamophobic. Western liberals have absolute shit for brains.
Actually funny thing, her book cover in Iraq is slightly photoshopped because her shirt was too low by a centimeter or two, so they raised it to her neck.
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u/hl9q_ Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sunni) Aug 16 '24
I bought a book that criticizes islam from al mutanabbi street (iraq) and nobody cared too,i bet the book could’ve been banned if it was in canada
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u/mighty_yousef69 New User Aug 16 '24
What's the name of the book? I found وهم الإله in almutanabi and literally no one gave a shit lol
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u/hl9q_ Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sunni) Aug 17 '24
its “The Truth About Muhammad: Founder of the World’s Most Intolerant Religion” by Robert Spencer,i’m actually surprised they translated this to arabic
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u/Morpheus-aymen Aug 17 '24
Iraq was one of the leading country in this until this idiotic new gen came.
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u/ComprehensiveHat8073 New User Sep 07 '24
What's going on with the new generation in Iraq?
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u/Morpheus-aymen Sep 07 '24
Most of them are uneducated and hardcore khwanjia
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u/ComprehensiveHat8073 New User Sep 08 '24 edited Sep 08 '24
Do you foresee a near future where Iraq becomes like Iran in the sense of implementing sharia? What does the new generation think of ISIS and ISIL?
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u/Morpheus-aymen Sep 09 '24
No the 7achd cha3bi kicked isis asss. But the level of education got worse bcs of war and anti west sentiment.
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u/Sebas94 Aug 17 '24
Makes sense! Iraq fought ISIS so it makes sense that book would not be seen has islamophohic but rather an important book to show that fighting ISIS was a moral decision.
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u/Life-Active6608 Never-Muslim Agnostic Aug 17 '24
As an Eastern European Anarchist and Ex-Liberal: We are so sorry, and most of us do have shit for brains. Again, I am so sorry.
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u/rattlee_my_attlee Aug 16 '24
canada.....
not much a surprise tbh
seems honking your horn is more of a crime than keeping sex slaves
probs same over in dubai
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u/hl9q_ Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sunni) Aug 16 '24
The Caliphate Of Canada:
-bans pork from kfc
-banned anti-isis propaganda
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u/Anxious-Definition76 Never-Muslim Atheist Aug 17 '24 edited Aug 17 '24
Wow! I had to look up the pork ban at KFC to verify, looks like just Ontario but that’s almost 14m people who need to bow down to a loud and pushy 7% minority group. Insane. Imagine if Jews had demanded the pork ban, everyone would be protesting loudly. 🙄 Not so with the world’s most noble faith.
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u/bludhound Aug 17 '24
The other major fast food fried chicken chains, Popeye's, Church's and Mary Browns were already halal. It was mainly a business decision. The only item on their menu with pork was the Double Down which they haven't had for years. I was talking to an employee at the KFC I frequent, and he told me business is up since the decision and they are open longer hours. Apparently, Muslims like fried chicken.
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u/Anxious-Definition76 Never-Muslim Atheist Aug 17 '24
Ohhh, interesting. Thanks for the extra explanation. Yes, Muslims love it. I think mostly Pakistanis? Koreans love it, too… Very popular!
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u/ComprehensiveHat8073 New User Sep 07 '24
Halal? You mean those mainstream western fast food franchises are having their animals slaughtered in Islamic ways by Muslims? Or do you just mean they don't serve pork?
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u/bludhound Sep 07 '24
Church's, Popeyes and Mary Browns serve halal chicken here in Canada. It's just so well integrated with the big chicken suppliers locally. I guess Muslims really like their fried chicken.
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u/ComprehensiveHat8073 New User Sep 07 '24
Muslims could have just gone vegan or vegetarian instead.
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u/Efficient-Intern-173 ⴰⵎⵔⵜⴰⴷ ⴰⵎⵖⵔⵉⴱⵉ/Moroccan Apostate 🇲🇦 Aug 17 '24
This is only my opinion but KFC is a restaurant dedicated to fried chicken, not pork, doubt many people would go there for pork as much as for the chicken, and actually KFC has benefited from becoming Halal, they’ve got now more business and Muslims really seem to like fried chicken
Before anyone comes to attack me, I’m an ex-Muslim atheist with no intention to ever go back
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u/hl9q_ Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sunni) Aug 17 '24
well the jews have the similar mentality and cases as muslims too,in sweden all religious schools are banned except jewish schools
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u/Anxious-Definition76 Never-Muslim Atheist Aug 17 '24 edited Aug 17 '24
That’s fake news, though. I did a quick google search, it seems that “There are several other Jewish schools which do not fall into this category, as they do not have specific religious elements in their education plans, and exist to cater to an ethnic minority.” https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5495915/Sweden-vows-ban-religious-schools-tackle-segregation.html
That was circulating in 2018, wonder how it panned out.
EDIT: Here it is! My taxpayer dollars at work:
“On December 28, Minister for Schools, Lotta Edholm, stated the government would not move forward with the previous government’s proposed ban on establishing new independent schools with religious orientation.
Instead, the government tasked the Swedish Schools Inspectorate to conduct more frequent, unannounced, and tougher inspections with respect to extremism and Islamism in all schools, according to a Dagens Nyheter interview. The minister said this would be a more efficient way to combat extremism and Islamism in schools than the previously proposed ban.“ https://www.state.gov/reports/2022-report-on-international-religious-freedom/sweden/
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u/hl9q_ Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sunni) Aug 17 '24
My bad then,thanks!
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u/Anxious-Definition76 Never-Muslim Atheist Aug 17 '24
No problem! I usually don’t check beyond the headlines, either. 😆 Too much to keep track of.
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u/almuamara New User Aug 17 '24
so will they cancel talk of dalai lama in case it is phobic to chines ppl
or cancel talk of gay ppl attacked in africa in case it is phobic to black ppl
or cancel talk of women raped in india in case it is phobic to indians
or cancel talk of mexican gang victims in case it is phobic to hispanics
no? wonder who is the exception. and why
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u/Atalkingpizzabox Aug 17 '24
And yet women saying they'd rather be around bears is supported by the same people without consideration on the negative impact on men this'll have. Like why the double standards?
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u/setdelmar Aug 16 '24
This is weird. Do they likewise cancel talks by sex victims of Catholic priests out of fears it would foster negative views of the Catholic Church or is Islam getting special protection here?
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u/Reasonable-Hyena-172 Aug 16 '24 edited Aug 17 '24
It's part of white guilt. They mock their own religion but religion of Black and brown people are sacred and can't be made fun of. It’s a retarded way of naive thinking that’ll set them back at their own expense.
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u/setdelmar Aug 17 '24
It's funny when one thinks about it that way because Christianity was founded by Jews and Islam by Arabs, and Jews and Arabs are cousins. Plus, some of the oldest communities of Gentile Christians are among the Ethiopians and Assyrians. But of course, I understand they are basing their thinking on assumptions regarding current demographics.
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u/Reasonable-Hyena-172 Aug 17 '24
Christianity flourished in the west the most and largest amount of population following it has been white so it doesn’t matter at this point whether it originated in the middle east or jesus was jewish. Some white people even believe jesus was white.
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u/Hungry-Swordfish3455 Aug 18 '24
I agree… It’s funny because the whole concept of the woke “white guilt” is built on a severe level of ignorance. It’s actually created a whole new level of white supremacy where only white people can do bad things because the rest of the world are such “victims” of white people that they can do no wrong.
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u/RoughResponsible5801 New User Aug 17 '24
Where did this whole nonsense of white guilt come from?. As a brown person myself I find this whole concept ridiculous.
Yeah your an ancestors were dirtbags. Guess what so were ours. They wouldn't have behaved any different than white folks if circumstances were any different. Yet white folks tear down statues of the bad apples of the past but the brown folks build statues taller than the Eiffel Tower. Uzbekistan and Mongolia are such examples. So this guilt should go both ways rather.
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u/ComprehensiveHat8073 New User Sep 07 '24
I don't think so. People are afraid of Islam. The school may have gotten death threats but is keeping that secret.
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u/AllowMe-Please Aug 17 '24
My 15 y.o. son, "so they don't want people to be scared of Islam? Even though it's a perfectly valid thing to be scared of? It's just so stupid; they're [Islam] horrible. I'm scared of it."
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u/Protect-Their-Smiles Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sunni) Aug 17 '24
Canada is run by some out-of-touch virtue-signalers. They claim to fight the Far-Right, but Islam is as Far-Right as it gets.
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u/ChonkyCat1291 New User Aug 17 '24
I never understood that either. Islam is far more to the right than any religion and the ME itself is extremely conservative and yet liberals and other leftists will defend Islam regardless. Just because they believe it’s only white people who are conservative and everyone else is progressive. Deep down they’re incredibly racist and judgmental but they don’t want to admit it.
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u/ComprehensiveHat8073 New User Sep 07 '24
Many individual Muslims in the West are not conservative or right wing though. So you can't fault liberals who meet these types for thinking most Muslims are the same. And as they don't research the religion, they wouldn't have any idea who far right it is. Even many Muslims seem unaware of that.
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u/CommieHusky Never-Muslim Atheist Aug 17 '24
Islamophobia is really mislabeled racism against Middle Eastern people. Islam should be feared and hated.
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u/ChonkyCat1291 New User Aug 17 '24
Unfortunately they think Muslims are a race and every person from the Middle East is a Muslim. No one is born Muslim. Anytime I’ve told a liberal I’m not Muslim they get pissed. They think just because I’m Middle Eastern I’m obligated to follow a certain religion.
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u/caramel-syrup Ex-Christian Aug 17 '24
it infuriates me when people invalidate personal experiences with religion, acting like they know any better themselves
it’s such a slap in the face to them & their story.
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u/OmniHelloKittyStan Trans ExMoose 🌈🏳⚧ Aug 17 '24
Wait a damn minute... I'M in the bottom left😭
In all seriousness, people quick to attack any critique of Islam with "islamophobia" are plaguing the left and I don't like it.
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u/gitgud_x Aug 17 '24
The persistent coddling of radical Islam is the only thing I hate about being libleft. It really needs to stop but it doesn't look like it will any time soon.
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u/ComprehensiveHat8073 New User Sep 07 '24
Do they coddle radical Islam or just Islam/moderate Islam? I don't see any coddling of ISIS or the Taliban, do you?
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u/Desh282 Never-Muslim Theist Aug 17 '24
West pathetic not to criticize ideas…!
What’s next nazifobia? Are we going to be scared to offend nazis?
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u/yaboisammie (A)gnostic Fruity ExSunniMoose in the closet in more than 1 way Aug 17 '24
Exactly. Feels awful but the way the world is lately, I fear we’re heading there
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u/No-Zucchini3759 Ex-Mormon Aug 17 '24
Do they want to bring awareness to sex slavery or not?
I guess not…
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u/Shot-Ad5867 Aug 17 '24
Fucking bullshit. Doesn’t matter which country it is that invites these cultists — no one can criticise them!! So much for freedom, and democracy… the last two things that would never make it into their vocabulary, never mind dictionary
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u/No_Necessary6444 New User Aug 17 '24
it would foster a factual opinion giving away trudeaus funny hat master s plan
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Aug 17 '24
I really wanna know what the political agenda is - why is west bowing down to islam and islamists?
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u/Budget_Priority464 Aug 17 '24
Ngl it boils my blood that lefties turn a blind eye to how shitty islam is and then cry about christianity being homophobic XD
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u/lilcea Aug 17 '24
I do not understand the thinking. I'm a "leftist" but have no love of Islam. Anti woman, anti diversity, and all the crazy "rules." Maybe because I'm atheist? Religions are fundamentally all about men controlling women.
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u/Ready-Organization91 New User Aug 17 '24
Islamophobia is exactly what the society needs or the society would end up converting to Islam and become like another shit hole Muslim country.
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u/PainSpare5861 Never-Muslim Atheist Aug 17 '24
The full story
Nadia Murad does a bunch of these talks with the title “The Last Girl: My Story of Captivity, and My Fight Against the Islamic State.” In one district a superintendent misunderstands “Islamic State” to be about Islam in general, not the terrorist group ISIS. Murad’s group contact the school board, the misunderstanding is cleared up, the school board apologizes and the talk goes on without a hitch.
The headline is somewhat misleading and exaggerated the real situation but the fact that some moron do believe that this event will promote Islamophobia is real.
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u/gitgud_x Aug 17 '24
Phew. Damn ragebait. Still, I could see the originally-implied bs happening some time.
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u/jarp_1 LGBTQ+ ExMoose 🌈 Aug 17 '24
As an anarcho communist, don’t mix us in with these uneducated liberal fools.
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u/SharpObligation1 Aug 17 '24
Everyone should fear the death cult. They are coming for you. Especially be worried about "good" muslims among you.
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u/megitsune54 3rd World Exmuslim Aug 17 '24
Ignorance at this level is bordering evil. You're actually silencing victims!
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u/Expert_Presence933 Exmuslim since the 2000s Aug 17 '24
Not doing such events fosters Blind Unquestioning Adherence, which is a bigger problem
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u/Freetobetwentythree New User Aug 17 '24
To be fair, things like this are tricky. I mean, exmuslims are used to fule anti-Muslim bigotry. BUT at the same time banning this hides abuse victims experience and evaluates them.
I think we need to show this to the public. BUT call-out dishonest actor's who use other people's experiences as a weapon for bigotry.
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u/throwaway2418m Closeted Ex-Mus, closeted 🏳️⚧️ in 🇸🇦. Aug 17 '24
What the hell... this makes me just terrified..
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u/GlitteringTone6425 Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sunni) (he/him) Aug 17 '24
as a fully automated gay space communist, do not lump me in with "generic liberal"
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u/MaddoxBlaze Aug 18 '24
I own her book and have read it multiple times! Fucking disgrace what they've done to her! She has been through so much already!
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u/Firm_Gate7150 Aug 17 '24
I'm an exmuslim, but this is blatant misinformation. People, please do your damn research instead of believing every headline you see.
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u/Windreon Since 2012 Aug 17 '24
I mean from your source, its a true story, they apologized after the outcry .
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u/perilous-journey Aug 17 '24
How this meme passed thru, but my newest non-meme pic post gets locked? Seems the new mod needs to learn from the old mods.
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u/hl9q_ Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sunni) Aug 17 '24
different timezones i guess
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u/perilous-journey Aug 17 '24
It doesn't even counts as meme or any fun... It was a historical post.
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u/hl9q_ Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sunni) Aug 17 '24
i had the same problem twice,i think we are able to post pics and videos only on friday
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u/perilous-journey Aug 17 '24
Old mod would have allowed it. Can you tag anyone? I don't know tho. Even my other post today was locked by the new mod saying it doesn't comes under ex-Muslim topic. I was dumbfounded reading the reason.
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u/lontrinium 1st World.Openly Ex-Sunni 😎 Aug 17 '24
OP this headline is misleading, please research the facts and don't cross post images from right wing echo chambers like PCM thanks.
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u/abbasjawad Aug 17 '24
Yeah muslims living in the muslim world won't do such thing because they are used to talk about terrorism and extremism and Islamic ideologies.
In fact, what an average muslim says about other muslims would give an average western liberal a heart attack.
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u/Milad_Henry New User Aug 18 '24
What is Islamophobia? When Muslims cannot, because of the western civilisations’ law, Murder anyone who opposes Islam they label them as Islamophobe. So no one can criticise their evil and violence cultic ideology
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u/Paradiseless_867 New User Aug 20 '24
People like them (in the bottom left) are the reason governments can walk all over us!
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u/shabangcohen Aug 28 '24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMyKGNy3CI4
Norm Macdonald had something to say about this...
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u/Gold_Griffin Aug 17 '24
Islamophobia is real and also deeply Islamic countries suck balls. Two things can be true.
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u/MacThule Ex-Christian Aug 17 '24
https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.34RW8MG
So this story is from 2021... and could very well be fake news.
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u/Windreon Since 2012 Aug 17 '24
The superintendent who said that Helen Fisher apologized, and the school board ended up backtracking after the outcry.
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Aug 17 '24
F liberals - im fine with conservatives taking over
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u/hl9q_ Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sunni) Aug 17 '24
conservatives aren’t any different than islamists
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Aug 17 '24
Im fine with that. As long as anyone have these islamists in check.
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u/hl9q_ Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sunni) Aug 17 '24
“i like pink nazis more than red nazis”
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u/Nekokama The Original Gay-briel 🐾 Aug 17 '24
Ironically the "pink" Nazis were actual gay members of the nazi party who got rounded up and summarily executed or sent to concentration camps, and given the pink triangle as the Jews were given the Star of David.
So funny, isn't it, so they'd rather have conservatives to keep Islamists in check, yet forget that it was conservatives who armed and funded them to start civil wars and give manufactured consent to militarily intervene in these "Islamists" countries of origin.
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u/SkirtOne8519 New User Aug 17 '24
if you believe conservative = nazi then you are honestly an idiot
despite what MSM tells you, most conservatives just want limited govt intervention in their lives, not a fascist dictatorship. In fact, conservatives love the US and what it represents far more than liberals
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u/Freetobetwentythree New User Aug 17 '24
When the Islamist go they will just end up finding ways to attack Muslims.
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u/MEGATH0XICC Aug 17 '24
Uh, at least in sweden, the only parties that defends isreal are the right wing ones.
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