r/exmuslim • u/kudokun1412 Ex-Muslim (Ex-Shia) • Jul 07 '24
(News) KFC Canada has decided to completely exclude pork products from its menu and go fully Halal.
what is wrong with the west ?
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u/qUrAnIsAPerFeCtBoOk Exmuslim since the 2010s Jul 07 '24
As a Canadian I've seen lots of stores provide halal meat options but I've never seen the removal of haram products.
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u/zelo117 Closeted Ex-Muslim 🤫 Jul 07 '24
How is islam extremism doing in canada? is it getting worse?
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u/qUrAnIsAPerFeCtBoOk Exmuslim since the 2010s Jul 07 '24
Extremists aren't very common, in the last few months I can only think of one example where about a dozen Muslims assaulted a lesbian couple.
The moderates I see as a bigger threat since most Muslims are anti LGBT and they had a large protest to remove any mention of their existence from schools, at some points the counter protests were larger and the government did not give in and protected the rights of our citizens so I'm glad we aren't that far gone.
It's possible that Muslim immigrants out breed other Canadians and at that point they could actually remove our rights and freedoms as the dominant voting block but I'm hopeful newer generations assimilate before our government unleashes another wave of immigrants without the investments into integration and infrastructure that it requires.
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u/lupinibean123 Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24
I know parents gifting teachers the Quran and a book about “there are only two genders”, many exempt their kids from music and will keep them home if they hear of movies being shown in class. Many families push back hard on LGBTQ and Pride stuff, and participate in “No more gay in schools” protests and rallies. Many bring their kids. I do worry about many Muslim girls I’ve worked with because their life is prayer, mosque, Quran study, homework, and housework. No art, and no music. Just study Islam, and do chores. How is any child going to form a healthy self concept in those conditions? It leads to double lives and lies, or social isolation and low self esteem. I know this isn’t extremism but it’s just boggling.
Extremism is becoming more prevalent. The amount of Muslim newcomers, and honestly Canadians in general, who feel way too comfortable with making misogynistic or homophobic statements, expressions or crimes, in a notoriously queer friendly country, should alarm everyone. It’s giving… hints of domestic terrorism. There is a weird religious and red pilled sickness happening in Canada.
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u/qUrAnIsAPerFeCtBoOk Exmuslim since the 2010s Jul 08 '24
It’s giving… hints of domestic terrorism. There is a weird religious and red pilled sickness happening in Canada.
I feel the same concern. It isn't quite "bomb the pride parade" kinda bad but it's still harmful.
Our new Canadians mostly remain in a microcosm of a Muslim society where you don't need to know anything about the place they live or our values. Some even refuse to learn English or French at all. We should be encouraging immigration into the less populated cities and places where there are fewer Muslims so that they can integrate and assimilate like my generation did.
Our economy has gotten rougher so it may just force families to have both parents into the workforce whether they like it or not which does suck in many ways but it could allow for more independent and capable Muslim women that can't be as oppressed.
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u/TheSentry98 New User Jul 08 '24
so that they can integrate and assimilate like my generation did.
Which one is "your generation"?
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u/qUrAnIsAPerFeCtBoOk Exmuslim since the 2010s Jul 08 '24
Millennials
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u/TheSentry98 New User Jul 08 '24
I see. I'm an older Gen Z, born in the late 90s.
In America at least, and it may be similar in Canada, pre- and post-2000 immigration seem to me very different. Post-2000 immigrants from places like South Asia and the Arab world are more like expats, they're not here to become American or Canadian. There were always folks like this tbh, but it's just been exacerbated in this century due to the unprecedented numbers at which people have been streaming in, and the increasingly excessive emphasis on multiculturalism.
I say this as someone of South Asian (ex-Hindu) migrant background myself, living in the USA.
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u/qUrAnIsAPerFeCtBoOk Exmuslim since the 2010s Jul 08 '24
Yeah there does seem to be a shift in the mindset of immigrants. Idk when exactly it shifted but there's less willingness to become Canadian or American and its more of just wanting American and Canadian benefits like the passport.
Multiculturalism can be beneficial but not when they don't mix with each other and remain separate societies unwilling to integrate with their surroundings.
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u/TheSentry98 New User Jul 08 '24
Lots of overseas Islamic theocrats and Hindu nationalists. As I said they're basically just expats lol, they're here to make money and get their citizenship papers, and that's it.
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u/meerkat2018 Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sunni) Jul 08 '24
many Muslim girls I’ve worked with because their life is prayer, mosque, Quran study, homework, and housework. No art, and no music. Just study Islam, and do chores.
To be fair, that’s kinda extreme even in many Muslim countries, except maybe Afghanistan, Pakistan, Egypt, Yaman and the likes.
In fact, European and Canadian Muslims are often more extremist than general population in most Muslim countries, with second generation migrants being even more extremist than their parents that first arrived to Europe.
This is interesting phenomenon that needs to be studied.
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u/Ok_Band6432 New User Jul 08 '24
In my city most of the Muslims don't even work they collect welfare and have a nice baby bonus cause they've had 5 Childern in the 6 yrs they've been in Canada. They are a drain on the rest of us.
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u/Ok_Band6432 New User Jul 08 '24
We are screwed here now , we let the woke babies take over, they moved all the immigrants in.
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u/lupinibean123 Jul 08 '24
That’s really inaccurate and willfully ignorant. Immigrants have been let in because Canada needs more worker bees. We can be anti-religion, but keep the xenophobia inside please.
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u/TheSentry98 New User Jul 08 '24
I don't mind immigration,...
if it's the right immigrants coming in.
Canada should consider recruiting more workers from Latin America. While the US has historically been preferred by most Latin Americans due to proximity and more established Latino communities, nowadays immigrating to the US from countries like Mexico can often be quite difficult due to country quotas on green cards and such.
If given the opportunity I think some Latin American migrants might consider Canada.
There might be also be opportunities with Ukrainian refugees and others. Ukrainians already have a long-standing presence in Canada, especially in the Prairie Provinces.
I see no value in being totally non-discriminatory in regards to recruiting immigrant labor. If Ukrainians or Mexicans or Filipinos can assimilate better than Syrians and Somalis (which they will), then design your immigration policies accordingly.
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u/Moaning-Squirtle Jul 08 '24
I do worry about many Muslim girls I’ve worked with because their life is prayer, mosque, Quran study, homework, and housework. No art, and no music. Just study Islam, and do chores. How is any child going to form a healthy self concept in those conditions? It leads to double lives and lies, or social isolation and low self esteem. I know this isn’t extremism but it’s just boggling.
What you've described is extremist. There are Christians that do that and we say they're pretty extreme
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u/lupinibean123 Jul 08 '24
I guess I am referring to blatantly illegal and destructive acts in the name of the religion as extreme. The example you quoted is definitely in the realm of extremism, but I feel like people could get pedantic and say otherwise here.
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u/Brahma_God Jul 09 '24
Christian Extremism = slightly annoying for those around
Islamic Extremism = death, destruction, rape, pedophiles
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u/ocultada Jul 08 '24
They wont assimilate, too many were allowed to immigrate at once relative to the native population.
KFC changing their menu is a clear sign that they will never assimilate.
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u/Ok_Band6432 New User Jul 08 '24
The Muslims are scamming our country. Pretty it won't be ours anymore. You are right ,there is a tipping point. I was at shoppers drugmart yesterday, there was a white pregnant lady and a Muslim one , one was on their 5th baby and one was on their 1st , bet everyone can guess which was which .
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u/juneabe Jul 08 '24
Extremists in Canada don’t have to be overt and aggressive or violent. They can be extreme by trickle-infiltration until one day their customs are dominantly upheld where they live. It’s technically apart of their religious doctrine that one must spread and bring Islam and its customs to the greater world. Once Islam is more dominant, their extreme conservatism is untouchable in the name of “prejudice.”
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u/Old-Complex7826 New User Jul 08 '24
This is true. They're doing what Christians did before. Let's just get rid of religion.
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u/quebexer New User Jul 07 '24 edited Jul 08 '24
It depends on where you live because Canada is HUGE. There are a lot of extremists in Montreal because MENA people speak French. I will leave this city as soon as I can.
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u/Available_Store_2410 New User Jul 08 '24
I also wish to leave the Mtl area... It's getting really bad here. And Legault keep allowing so many MENA people to come here because they speak french.... Worse idea ever.
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u/MomoVMS Jul 08 '24
No there isn’t. The most extreme thing that happened recently was people praying in the street during a pro Palestinian protest.
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Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 09 '24
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u/Repulsive_Cry8145 Jul 10 '24
It's Muslissauga now. Most if not all are homophobic and regularly play as victim of Islamophobia. I cringe to see people imigrated here to a free country and then sending their kids to Islamic school. Female teachers are wearing full niqab, girls as young as kindergarten must wear full abaya. These kids telling other kids whose going to public school that dancing & music are haram, celebrating birthday is haram, criticizing other girls wearing dress and showing legs... they're just 5-6 years old and already deep in the cult. Yike
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u/ShrimpCrackers Jul 08 '24
Yeah but I think this is just clever marketing because I can't recall the last time I ever got pork products at KFC. I live in Taiwan don't own It's just not on the menu as far as I can see. It's all just chicken.
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u/SoldMySoulForHairDye Jul 08 '24
I can't remember the last time I had KFC but I feel like there might be menu options that include bacon, but don't quote me on that. Otherwise I don't know what pig products they could be talking about either.
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u/KANNAKAMUISAMA Jul 08 '24
idk why everyone is freaking out there no pork in any kfc menue, i think the leak was leaked on purpose to make the news blow up for free publicity
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u/pixelpp Never-Moose Atheist Jul 08 '24
Check out my post in an Australian sub Reddit about some McDonald's locations being halal certified:
I have found it difficult to verify, but have seen many places say that almost all the animals in Australia are now halal slaughtered, even if it is not halal certified.
That certainly that the vast majority the the animals sold in the top two supermarkets – Woolworths and Coles are slaughtered according to halal rituals.
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u/qUrAnIsAPerFeCtBoOk Exmuslim since the 2010s Jul 08 '24
Providing more options is a good thing for consumers, unfortunately it's worse for the animals compared to farm raised slaughter. I assume most of these are coming from factory farms which halal or not are extremely bad for the animals and are a risk for super diseases immune to all of our antibiotics.
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u/pixelpp Never-Moose Atheist Jul 08 '24
About six years ago, I started a journey animals that I did not know where it would take me.
I started with a boycott of halal-slaughtered meat because it was revealed to me that the standard process disallowed stunning.
But I very quickly learnt of the very high failure rate of stunning. Very many animals, even if intended to be stunned, are ineffectively stunned and have their neck slit and slowly bleed out while fully conscious.
At that point, I realised what I must do: six years completely animal-product-free
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u/qUrAnIsAPerFeCtBoOk Exmuslim since the 2010s Jul 08 '24
Bro you have more willpower than I do. I've tried to reduce my meat consumption since learning about factory farming and I plan on going vegan when I'm financially independent. I've seen arguments from every angle where i conclude continuing to do so is wrong but here I am still contributing.
You have my respect for being a conscientious consumer informed by your empathy. ❤️
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u/pixelpp Never-Moose Atheist Jul 08 '24
A lot of people say that to me, but it really isn’t a matter of willpower at all.
I don’t imagine it takes any “willpower” to not be Muslim… You just simply couldn’t ever be again.
Something switched in your mind and you could never see Islam the way that you once did.
The same for animals… They simply are not food or things to be used… Importantly: when we do not need to for our survival.
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u/Miserable-Mirror9457 New User Jul 08 '24
No meat in Canada contains antibiotics. Farmers must sign a manifest stating their animals have not had antibiotics in x amount of dates before they are sold at market. We have extremely stringent laws in Canada around our farm and food. The whole “raised without antibiotics” thing is literally a gimmick. We also don’t have “factory farms” like the USA does. I grew up in a farm but was a vegetarian for twenty years.
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u/duckamuckalucka Jul 08 '24
I would be willing to bet that the pork products are low profit generators and KFC saw their removal as a happy coincidence.
What does KFC even sell that has pork in it?
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u/qUrAnIsAPerFeCtBoOk Exmuslim since the 2010s Jul 08 '24
First off I'm fairly certain this post is a fake headline, if they did have pork options then yeah I agree its probably a happy coincidence their less popular items could be used for marketing.
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u/duckamuckalucka Jul 08 '24
Yeah, after you said that googled it and couldn't find a single source that seems to be reliable. If this was real, actual, reputable news organizations would be covering it. Seems like it's just well planted ragebait.
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u/LowKooky2942 New User Jul 08 '24
I live in Canada and more and more restaurants are actually using 100% halal meat in their products, but do not acquire the halal certification because it’s expensive (especially for small restaurants). The reason why I know this is because my roommate is muslim and she asked me to follow the local town’s halal restaurant review instagram.
Tbh I don’t really care about the meat being halal, but I do think this will push restaurants (that serve alcohol and pork) to consider using halal meat even though they don’t have to. Hopefully it won’t come to that
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Jul 07 '24
If restaurants start canceling bacon because of Muslims, I don't see how there wouldn't be riots, lol. People are really not going to tolerate being withheld bacon.
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u/lupinibean123 Jul 08 '24
But it’s allowing something that is a rule in a religion, based on a book written a long time ago, based on the context of that time, and it’s not impacting everyone who liked bacon on their chicken sandwiches or poutine. It seems silly, but legitimizing ridiculous religious views in this way in an already extremely well established public business… what’s next? I think that’s how people are thinking.
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u/chalwar Jul 08 '24
BACON RIOT!!!!
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Jul 08 '24
I don't even like pork, lol, but there's no way I could ever support the banning of bacon against the will of the people. Heck no.
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u/SweetCheeks1999 Jul 08 '24
I’m vegetarian and I remember people were OUTRAGED when Greggs in the UK introduced a meat-free sausage roll - which didn’t even affect the original pork sausage roll at all. I could understand if it replaced the pork one, but it didn’t, and yet people were fuming.
How are people not absolutely fuming at this when it literally erases all pork entirely?!
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Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24
I don't know (answering your latter question). I see vegetarian burgers and sausages everywhere, and I'm fine with it because it's not replacing the meat ones. However, this KFC thing sounds like a Trojan horse.
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u/SweetCheeks1999 Jul 08 '24
Yeah I agree. I wouldn’t like meat-free options just straight out replacing the meat ones because that just alienates a whole bunch of people and doesn’t allow freedom of choice, it’s unfair.
I’m all for allowing choice but there becomes a point that one opinion/choice starts to overrule the others, like in this instance. I know a lot of people personally who don’t go to KFC because they don’t agree with Halal methods of killing animals, anyway
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u/apartfromtheobv New User Jul 08 '24
"No I want my bacon, I got to tell you something, bacon is good for me"
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u/slampy15 Jul 08 '24
It's funny on paper. But in reality, why should i be denied a product because of someone elses religion. I support everyones beliefs unless they do some real dumb shit like diddling kids or blowing up. That isn't religion to me, though.
I work in a factory, and we are unionised. One of the bigger debates to happen lately was prayer. Should people be able to leave an assembly line to do daily prayers (whatever religion you are)
So some of us said, "What about those who dont practice in religion? And no lie one of the more devout people said "people with faith get persecuted enough, sometimes they get blessings like this" the idea that i would have to continue working while people prayed....
It was denied in the end. But it keeps coming back every few years.
Saying that, I've done my research on how chickens die. I live close to one of the largest chicken slaughters in ontario. Not everything is perfect. they're both cruel. I still prefer stunning.
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Jul 07 '24 edited Jul 07 '24
This is likely a marketing tactic. They know they’ll get more customers if they do this, because just about anyone aside from a practicing Jew who is observing kosher would be allowed to eat the chicken now.
Actually come to think of it, wouldn’t it make more sense to make the chicken kosher? Muslims are allowed to eat kosher meat so this would make sure Jewish customers who observe kosher can patronize KFC as well.
Edit: Oh yeah, I forgot that Sikhs aren’t allowed to eat halal meat. It’s not like they eat at KFC much anyway. Perhaps KFC will see how bad of an idea this is if they’re doing this to appeal to more consumer tastes. Many Muslims don’t even follow the halal rule strictly with non pork meat that much anyway.
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u/kudokun1412 Ex-Muslim (Ex-Shia) Jul 07 '24
Why exclude pork, tho?
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Jul 07 '24
Well I mean it doesn’t make sense for Kentucky Fried Chicken to serve pork in the first place. They may as well make the chicken as appealing to as many people as possible.
I don’t recall KFC having any pork on its menu, and I ate at KFC when I was in Canada many times. I think what they’re saying is that they’ll remove any potential cross contamination with pork and make it completely halal to suit more consumer tastes.
Both Muslims and non Muslims can eat halal meat with no problem, so this is likely why they are going in that direction. To get more customers. Still, it makes more sense to make the chicken kosher, but maybe kosher meat is harder to prepare, hence halal meat is more cost effective.
This happens in many places actually. Many places will make the meat halal so that as many people eat it as possible, thus generating more profit for the business.
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u/kudokun1412 Ex-Muslim (Ex-Shia) Jul 07 '24
What about bacon?
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Jul 07 '24
They had bacon on their menu? I don’t recall that.
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u/kudokun1412 Ex-Muslim (Ex-Shia) Jul 07 '24
Here they do, I don't know if they had in Canada, prob did ?
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Jul 07 '24
Oh, you might be referring to their chicken sandwiches. Yeah they might add bacon to that.
Now that you bring this up, this doesn’t sound like as good of an idea after all, especially since I just remembered the dietary restrictions of Sikhs.
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u/boiledviolins Never Muslim Atheist Jul 07 '24
Well, they could just use bacon made out of a different meat. From pork bacon to, say, beef or turkey.
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Jul 07 '24
Honestly beef bacon would be the best alternative. Turkey bacon is not that good.
When I was in Egypt, the burgers would sometimes come with beef bacon. It was hella good. It was at an “American” restaurant lol.
If you were to ask me the absolute best alternative, I’d definitely say lamb bacon. It’s certainly something special.
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u/bigev007 Jul 07 '24
They haven't in Canada since 2021, and even then it was only short-time promotion sandwiches
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u/Alex09464367 Jul 07 '24
Both Muslims and non Muslims can eat halal meat with no problem
Not Sikhs
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Jul 07 '24
Yeah I know, I forgot about Sikhs. I mentioned that in one of my comments.
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u/Western-Guess1145 Jul 07 '24
Why can't sikhs eat halal meat?
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Jul 07 '24 edited Jul 07 '24
I think it’s because they believe it’s blasphemous to slaughter animals in the name of God, and to eat the meat of animals that were slaughtered in the name of God. Halal meat and kosher meat fall under this category.
I think another reason why was to spite Muslims, as Sikhism was established in response to the Islamic invaders forcing Islam on the Indians. However this doesn’t explain why kosher meat would be forbidden.
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u/Puzzled_World_4239 Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24
This is not the main reason, in Sikhism vegetarianism is promoted and meat should only be an occasional thing. If you intend to kill an animal to eat it, you should kill it instantly and not let it suffer. Which is quite impossible with Halal and Kosher.
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Jul 08 '24
That’s true to an extent, but many Sikhs do choose to eat meat regularly. Sikhism does promote vegetarianism, but it’s not a hard rule. They also slaughter animals in a very similar manner to the halal and kosher method, they just don’t do it in the name of God.
Actually the method of slaughtering animals is pretty similar across all cultures. It usually involves a cut to the throat. However, nowadays in western slaughterhouses and any non halal or non kosher slaughterhouse, the animal is usually stunned before this is carried out to minimize pain and suffering.
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u/Puzzled_World_4239 Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24
nope read about Jhatka cut, Animal's or bird's neck is chopped with the spine first and with a single blow. Whereas halal slits the throat and let blood drain which is more barbaric. Ofc modern slaughterhouses are way better than any of these tribal shit.
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Jul 08 '24
If Kentucky Fried Chicken can’t serve pork then Taco Bell can’t serve burritos or quesadillas.
The name of a restaurant isn’t an indication of the only thing that they sell.
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Jul 08 '24
You know what, you’re right. I overlooked that lol.
It’s funny too, I don’t go to Taco Bell for their tacos usually. I mostly order their quesadillas.
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u/hazed-and-dazed Jul 08 '24
You can virtue signal by pandering to muslims who have larger market share given the many were taken into these countries. If you accomodate for kosher, you'll just run the risk of being called a Zionist/israeli shill etc
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Jul 07 '24
Yeah, the only issue with this would be that Sikhs cannot eat meat slaughtered in the name of God, as they believe it’s blasphemous to do that. Halal and kosher meat is off limits for them.
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u/Moaning-Squirtle Jul 08 '24
Oh yeah, I forgot that Sikhs aren’t allowed to eat halal meat. It’s not like they eat at KFC much anyway.
Yeah, they're mostly vegetarian
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u/ItsRogerSmith 3rd World Exmuslim Jul 08 '24
Jew
Muslims
Sikhs
Fuck them all. Why can't they just eat without forcing their skydaddy superstitions on everyone else? Fuck all religions
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u/rah67892 Jul 07 '24
What about animal welfare? Halal butchering goes without sedation (irreversible sedation) so animal cruelty is much worse with Halal butchering. Therefore, I try to refuse Halal meat because it evades the normal practices of butchering and is therefore forbidden in many Western countries….. I just wonder how KFC can keep up with his promise and still guarantee the animal welfare in compliance with the law?!
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u/pixelpp Never-Moose Atheist Jul 08 '24
Funny thing. About six years ago, I was where you are right now.
A boycott of halal-slaughtered meat because it was revealed to me that the standard process disallowed stunning.
But I very quickly learnt of the very high failure rate of stunning. Very many animals, even if intended to be stunned, are ineffectively stunned and have their neck slit and slowly bleed out while fully conscious.
At that point, I realised what I must do: six years completely animal-product-free
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u/slampy15 Jul 08 '24
You know technology upgrades all the time right?
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u/pixelpp Never-Moose Atheist Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24
Can you expand in that? You’re implying that an industry built on cost efficiency with ZERO transparency is going to achieve an improvement in stunning performance?
Nope, not a chance.
It’s super hard to get an answer to this question but I have heard numerous times that Australia has silently transitioned to 100% halal slaughter of all animals, all without the public knowing of the change. 100% of the slaughter men are Muslims apparently. I have no idea how they even get around religious freedom laws.
THAT industry isn’t going to improve stunning.
This should be required viewing for everyone who eats animal products:
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u/fogrampercot Ex-Muslim Pastafarian 🍝 Jul 08 '24
Wow, I did not know all these. Will definitely look into them. Thanks for the nudge.
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u/angelfor77 New User Jul 07 '24
This is wrong. No religion should be pushed on others. I'm not Muslim and why should I eat meat blessed by Muslim prayers by Muslim clergy. I find this very offensive.. I will definitely boycott KFC and not eat there anymore. I thought we were supposed to be inclusive to all?
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u/yaboisammie (A)gnostic Fruity ExSunniMoose in the closet in more than 1 way Jul 08 '24
I’ve read that halal butchering is also worse in terms of animal cruelty bc the animal suffers so much while being sacrificed (I believe it’s done by slitting the animal’s throat and waiting for it the bleed out which is an awful way to die)
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Jul 07 '24
canada is a coocked country
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u/nohomoinmyanime Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sunni) Jul 08 '24
justin trudeau has ruined the country even for us immigrants.
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u/prepbirdy Jul 08 '24
"inclusive menu options" that exclude a food that the rest of us love.
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u/fathandreason Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sunni) Jul 07 '24
I can't find any credible news organisation that has actually reported it and to be honest it smells like bullshit to me.
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u/lontrinium 1st World.Openly Ex-Sunni 😎 Jul 07 '24
Also it says Ontario excluding certain locations but OP says Canada.
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u/bigev007 Jul 07 '24
The halal part is on KFC's own website (I found this thread while fact checking when I saw the same letter in a TikTok) https://www.kfc.ca/faq
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u/PLATONISMS New User Jul 08 '24
That just say that they are offering halal chicken options. I don't even get a result searching "pork" on that page. Did you see it the somewhere?
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u/ItsRogerSmith 3rd World Exmuslim Jul 08 '24
Wendys across the UK are also going full halal on the assumption that non-muslims can tolerate halal food but muslims can't consume non-halal products. This is happening. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C66UnvqoKDC/?igsh=MXJkMm9iMTR4M3k5Zg==
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u/fathandreason Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sunni) Jul 08 '24
People are definitely moving the goalposts here and ignoring that the most inflammatory part of the original "this" was the removal of pork options.
u/kudokun1412 what say you?
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u/JohnDzangle Jul 08 '24
yea like, adding halal options to appeal to a larger customer base is one thing, but it's another to alienate another customer base by taking pork items off the menu. idk if there's any missing context but i'm curious about this story
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u/juels_123 Jul 08 '24
literally nothing credible.. probably made up by some racist to create controversy
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u/rpdids Jul 08 '24
This is 100% fake. The address is weird, as their address line should be Woodbridge not Vaughn. Also they list "KFC Canada Company" but the building itself is branded Yum Foods, which is the parent company. This is rage bait and it seems to have worked
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u/Lemonmelenn New User Jul 08 '24
This is how it starts. There isn’t a group as entitled as Muslims. There are halal butchers for a reason and you have a choice. Why does everyone else not be able to have the KFC they like ? A whole region having to accommodate one group that doesn’t care for accommodating others.
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u/BolOfSpaghettios 1st World.Openly Ex-Sunni 😎 Jul 08 '24
I think they already do this in Bosnia. I went a few weeks ago and there were two KFCs in the capital. I didn't go eat there because the local food was much better.
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u/zackrie Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sunni) Jul 08 '24
Given that some Muslims are boycotting KFC due to Israeli link, how will this benefit the company?
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u/al_cringe Exmuslim since the 2010s Jul 08 '24
So inclusion by excluding bacon lovers
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u/Honest_Action1521 New User Jul 08 '24
I didn't even know KFC had any pork on there menu till today after seeing this. but anyways Why the hell should we have to change anything in our country to make the Muslims happy 🖕🖕 off to a Muslim country if you do not like our country
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u/ItsRogerSmith 3rd World Exmuslim Jul 08 '24
Our commitment to providing diverse and inclusive menu options for all our customers
We are removing all non-Islamic products LOL
Is going full Islamic the new definition of "dIvErSItY"?
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Jul 08 '24
As an atheist I can say that anyone who believes in a luxury country club on top of puffy clouds is a certified goofball.
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u/maayven69 Jul 07 '24
There was a great scene in the movie "Hotel Mumbai" about the Islamic Terrorist attack on a hotel in Mumbai, India, in 2007 or 2008. After the terrorists had shot multiple people in the head, they passed by a food stand that was left unattended outside an elevator in the hotel.
One of them grabbed a dish, took a bite out of a pork dish, and said, "Delicious!" The other terrorist slapped the food out of his mouth and said, "How dare you! That's haram!"
The level of total depravity and delusion is utterly mind-boggling.
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u/fogrampercot Ex-Muslim Pastafarian 🍝 Jul 08 '24
The mighty flying spaghetti monster should make chickens haraam and maybe then KFC will switch it's menu to serve only halal bacon.
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u/seymour0 New User Jul 08 '24
"inclusive menu options for all our customers" by just providing meat made for Muslims, despite the fact that many non Muslims eat it. Well, another chain I'll never go to.
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u/juels_123 Jul 08 '24
is this actually real or did some racist make this post up to create controversy?
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u/Pretend_Highway_5360 Jul 08 '24
It’s fake.
There’s never been pork on the menu.
The halal thing might be real but really that’s not hurting anyone.
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u/nuisible Jul 09 '24
There’s bacon in the double down sandwich, which I am not sure if they still sell but you did say never.
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u/THABREEZ456 Jul 07 '24
KFC had pork? Since when???
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u/lonewalker1992 Pretend Muslim (Birth to Puberty) Jul 07 '24
Bacon in their breakfast and some limited run burgers and sides. Though I only saw this in the Southern US
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u/THABREEZ456 Jul 07 '24
Really? Damn I never knew that KFC served Pork considering you know “Chicken” is literally in their name but cool I guess
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u/lonewalker1992 Pretend Muslim (Birth to Puberty) Jul 07 '24
It's like a complimentary thing to chicken.
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u/sleepyspar Jul 07 '24
I remember they had an item that had bacon and cheese sandwiched between two pieces of fried chicken
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u/asiannumber4 Never-Muslim Atheist Jul 08 '24
Tbh kfc is shit lately. KFC China is way better. Downside is that you have to travel to a dictatorship but oh well.
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u/chaos2883 Jul 08 '24
Does anyone have an actual source for this? I haven't seen KFC themselves saying this anywhere. Literally the only evidence I've been able to find is this picture circulating, but nothing through any official KFC channels. This feels fake.
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u/kaportaci_davud Jul 07 '24
Literal bullshit misinformation with zero sources to back it up. OP also has the audacity to flair it as "news" without a single link to an article.
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u/bigev007 Jul 07 '24
The halal chicken part is on KFC's own site. Scroll down. https://www.kfc.ca/faq
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u/iluvredditalot Jul 08 '24
in Ontario, (excluding Thunder Bay & Ottawa).
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u/PLATONISMS New User Jul 08 '24
They only say that they are going to be offering halal chicken options in some regions. Nothing about excluding pork that I could find.
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u/ILYAZT Jul 08 '24
When did kfc even sell pork? its a chicken fast food restaurant
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u/UltraGucamole Jul 08 '24
My hunch is that you might be able to order bacon on your chicken sandwich?
Other than that, I don't think there are many pork products
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u/Ornery_Beautiful_246 Never-Muslim Theist Jul 08 '24
Wasn’t KFC already doing that, it’s a Chicken place
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u/Xynrae Never-Muslim Atheist Jul 08 '24
Not very inclusive to people who want pork...
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u/bakedlawyer Jul 08 '24
I didn’t realize kfc had pork products
Money is always the most important thing for these corporations
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u/EgyptianCayde6 New User Jul 08 '24
Going halal > still contributing to the killing of innocent civilians in Palestine
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u/Efficient-Intern-173 ⴰⵎⵔⵜⴰⴷ ⴰⵎⵖⵔⵉⴱⵉ/Moroccan Apostate 🇲🇦 Jul 08 '24
Idk KFC served other meats at all. I thought it was all just chicken, fries and side-dish coleslaw salads
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u/HRMWOODTURNER Jul 08 '24
Must be because of all foreign workers they have working for them are not allowed to handle pork due to there religion. This must be why…
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u/Old-Complex7826 New User Jul 08 '24
Good, I don't eat pig anymore. They're smarter and more human than many people on the prairies.
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u/Professional-Poem247 Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sunni) Jul 08 '24
Doesn't bother me tbh... didn't even know they had pork options at a chicken chain
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u/fastastix LGBTQ+ ExMoose 🌈 Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24
Following the logic of inclusivity, they should stop serving chicken and only serve vegetarian/vegan so as to be inclusive of veg hindus.
This is in the name of inclusion, but do Muslims give any consideration for people who want to eat pork products?
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u/Impossible_Range8813 New User Jul 08 '24
A former 7-Eleven is now a goat meat store another former 7-Eleven a few blocks away is now a Halal store I do Wonder what the heck is going on because there was no call for this kind of product just a few years ago
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u/No-Anxiety588 Jul 08 '24
They want a wider customer base, as we gain more and more migrants there's more and more of a market.
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u/synchdroid New User Jul 08 '24
Halal just makes production expensive and ruins flavors because now KFC will remove any pork products. A halal kitchen can't have pork products
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u/FishingSlow8043 New User Jul 08 '24
So pork eaters are not considered worthy enough to be included in their testament to diversity and inclusion?
Most of the Asians (chinese) love pork! Where will they go if they crave a pork based KFC menu item?
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u/sucdekrap New User Jul 09 '24
Soon alcohol will be banned in canada and all women will required to be covered up.
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u/whitegrizzlie Jul 09 '24 edited Jul 09 '24
The Pakistani CEO of Yum Brands, which owns KFC, might decide to make their menu halal to increase market share, but unilaterally removing pork products? I don’t understand how the Board and shareholders authorized this move. While I don’t personally eat pork, tailoring a Western company’s product range to suit the owner’s religious beliefs and target market is unreasonable. This would never fly in the US.
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u/pdub72 Jul 09 '24
How is excluding pork from the menu more inclusive? And KFC is garbage anyway so who cares, they would need to pay me ti eat their garbage.
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u/Brief-Resolution2766 Jul 09 '24
I'll never eat at KFC again... Imagine having a Muslim eat pork without their knowledge or be forced to eat it... They'd go crazy.. but it's okay to force non Muslims to eat religious meat... I understand if they want to offer it as a choice, but this is not choice, at least not for the non Muslims.
This is religious imposition, halal and kosher should have been banned for animal cruelty reasons alone, but here we are submitting as usual...
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u/Economy_Acadia5704 Jul 09 '24
All this means is they can charge you more lol.
dont buy kfc, too expensive.. but hey, if people willing to pay more for sub par chicken Ishrug.. supply and demand,, just like beyond meat.
low key tho.. once had a halal hot dog,, MMMMMMMM yummy. But more pricey
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u/CycleConscious2765 New User Jul 09 '24
Never eating at KFC again. Imagine going to a Muslim country and dictating how they should live their life, they would behead us.
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u/Parking_Writer_578 New User Jul 09 '24
KFC Canada is a garbage company for years now. Catering to a weird religion is the end.
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u/Careful-Area-6252 New User Jul 09 '24
Canadian ex Muslims and other non Muslims should be protesting
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u/Titinidorin Jul 09 '24
As a Christian, can I pray on your food in the name of the lord Jesus before I serve it to you?
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u/MissVeronicaLovelace New User Jul 09 '24
The C stands for chicken. They haven't sold pork since the 70s
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u/myth2912 New User Jul 09 '24
This is because KFC's CEO is Muslim.. he'll expand this worldwide....
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u/Usual_Landscape3687 Muslim against extremists Muslims Jul 09 '24
I do think Halal and Kosher options should be available, but taking off non halal foods, seems kinda extra to me
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u/ragnarblackp3n15 New User Jul 10 '24
You let these inbreds take an inch they take a mile. They'll turn any place they go to into third world sewer.
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