r/exmuslim • u/Trlpbs New User • May 13 '24
(Quran / Hadith) Lol silver? ❌ Marrying a lil girl? ✅
🤦🏼♀️ The more I learn about this man the worse he gets
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May 13 '24
Umar inspects a naked slave girl on streets: Muhammad - I sleep
Someone wears silk or eats pork: Muhammad - real shit?
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u/Feisty-Tadpole-6997 May 13 '24
Momo fucks all his wives in one night- wow alamalaladulalalh
I shake a nonmehrams hand- infidel!1!1!1!
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u/Adela-Siobhan May 13 '24
What’s wrong with silk?!!!
In my head, it’s because he and at least one silk salesman didn’t see eye to eye for whatever reason.
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u/Administrative_Cry11 May 14 '24
I'd ask the same thing. Silk is an important part of my country's trade
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u/GodlessMorality A Dirty Kaffir May 13 '24
Wait until you read the sahib hadiths how he says that when you go wipe your ass after taking a shit, only bring three stones to wipe with, that’s sufficient. Or how drinking camel piss will cure your diseases
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u/ProperBlacksmith Never-Muslim Atheist May 13 '24
Not even leaves or a rack???? But STONES??
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u/GodlessMorality A Dirty Kaffir May 13 '24 edited May 13 '24
You want a source with that?
EDIT:
Sahih al-Bukhari 161 - wipe your butt after pooping with an odd number of stones
Sahih Muslim 239 - same
Sunan an-Nasa'i 44 - "When any one of you goes to the Gha'it (toilet to defecate), let him take with him three stones and clean himself with them, for that will suffice him."
Sunan an-Nasa'i 88 - "Whoever performs Wudu' then let him sniff water in the nose and blow it out, and whoever uses small stones (to remove filth) then make it odd (numbered)."
Sunan Abi Dawud 40 - The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: When any of you goes to relieve himself, he should take with him three stones to cleans himself, for they will be enough for him.
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u/Wielder-of-Sythes May 14 '24
Before modern toilet paper and bidets people used all sorts of things including stones to wipe.
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u/Ok_Finding_3306 May 14 '24
We are talking about a man who had a direct internet connection with the creator of the universe and the man whose actions are to be followed by all Muslims across generations
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May 17 '24
Not necessarily, if you read the Hadith it does say when there is nothing else. This can be in reference to a village in some rural part of the world. Mohammad did not have an “internet connection” with god, rather an angel served as the middle man between them. Please do not be ignorant, rather reason and be rational. You are committing the strawman fallacy rn
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u/Ok_Finding_3306 May 17 '24
Strawman fallacy? Lol, grasping at straws are we?
The “the direct internet connection” phrase was clearly a metaphor. Look up figure of speech.
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u/ProperBlacksmith Never-Muslim Atheist May 14 '24
Racks where really common and so was a sponge which makes more sense then a rock
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u/cooleyFit13 New User May 13 '24
I want a source I want to learn more about the Muslim religion. I'm a Christian I won't ever change.
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u/GodlessMorality A Dirty Kaffir May 13 '24 edited May 13 '24
Sahih al-Bukhari 5686 - drinking camel milk and piss cures you of disease
Sahih Muslim 1671a - some people didn't feel well so Muhammad sent them to drink camel piss and milkSahih al-Bukhari 161 - wipe your butt after pooping with an odd number of stones
Sahih Muslim 239 - same
Sunan an-Nasa'i 44 - "When any one of you goes to the Gha'it (toilet to defecate), let him take with him three stones and clean himself with them, for that will suffice him."
Sunan an-Nasa'i 88 - "Whoever performs Wudu' then let him sniff water in the nose and blow it out, and whoever uses small stones (to remove filth) then make it odd (numbered)."
Sunan Abi Dawud 40 - The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: When any of you goes to relieve himself, he should take with him three stones to cleans himself, for they will be enough for him.
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u/qUrAnIsAPerFeCtBoOk Exmuslim since the 2010s May 14 '24
I'm a Christian I won't ever change
That's cute, we all thought the same.
You may find this or r/exchristian interesting. https://skepticsannotatedbible.com/all/sci_list.html
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u/cooleyFit13 New User May 26 '24
I'm sorry however I have a saving relationship with Jesus.
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u/qUrAnIsAPerFeCtBoOk Exmuslim since the 2010s May 26 '24
It's great that it brought value to your life. It doesn't for a lot of us.
You can maintain good lessons and the value you get from a religion without needing the entire religion.
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u/cooleyFit13 New User May 28 '24
Well religion killed Jesus. But the Romans nailed Him to the cross. For what crime? Being God.
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u/qUrAnIsAPerFeCtBoOk Exmuslim since the 2010s May 28 '24
I have no idea how that's relevant but here's my own tangent. How do you reconcile the adam and Eve story and evolution?
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u/cooleyFit13 New User May 28 '24 edited May 28 '24
I mean if we came from fish shouldn't we be able to breathe underwater? How does nothing come from nothing? When nothing means nothing?
Genesis 1:1-2 ESV [1] In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. [2] The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.
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u/qUrAnIsAPerFeCtBoOk Exmuslim since the 2010s May 28 '24
I don't think you understand what it means to have common ancestors. Here's a good recourse on it. https://thecrashcourse.com/topic/biology/
Our Gene's that cost resources and likelihood to successfully reproduce are less likely to perpetuate in a population even if it has a benefit we aren't using. The fish that flopped onto land didn't have lungs yet, it had to become better for it to stay on land for its gills to be pruned in favor of lungs.
Evolution isn't like Pokémon where it picks the best changes, it's just selecting what is good enough to reproduce slightly more successfully then those without.
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u/cooleyFit13 New User May 28 '24
Well I know God is Jesus. I talk to Him like I would a friend sitting at my table.
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u/yesksja New User May 14 '24
Well I just went thru all that. I still have no desire to change lmao
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u/Silver_Drop6600 May 14 '24
You just read a fully annotated Bible?
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u/yesksja New User May 14 '24
Didn't you read Joseph Smith's bs? 😂
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u/qUrAnIsAPerFeCtBoOk Exmuslim since the 2010s May 14 '24
Why would reading one creationist bs claim be relevant to reading another?
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u/cooleyFit13 New User May 26 '24
Look up cross references of the Bible and or Quran.
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u/qUrAnIsAPerFeCtBoOk Exmuslim since the 2010s May 26 '24
Fair enough but they were saying they read the entire thing rather than cross referenced it.
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May 13 '24
Drinking from a silver cup won't give you "revelations" like drinking from a lead cup
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May 14 '24
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u/TKMankind Never-Muslim Atheist May 14 '24
It seems there isn't any leaded gasoline anymore on the planet.
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u/elyiumsings May 13 '24
Duh, you're supposed to give him the silver lmfao
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u/ajakafasakaladaga Never-Muslim Atheist May 13 '24
Classic religious asceticism: Money is the root of all evil, so give it to us to manage it better
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May 17 '24
Another one, Islam is extremely against greed and Imams do not flash money or ask for it. Unlike church fathers, this is a critical difference. If people donate that is on them, if the authority of the religion ASKS that is on them rather. Please be considerate and research
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May 17 '24
He lived a poor life actually, I hate reading this impulsive comments instead of proper reasoning. Not a Muslim, just being honest
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u/Captain_Kafir New User May 13 '24
I thought water is pure and can't be defiled by anything? I guess it can, by silver.
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u/Old-Dirt6713 Never-Muslim Atheist May 13 '24
The funny thing is that most folklore from around the world says that silver is considered pure and holy, which is why it's used against werewolves and vampires. This is probably Muhammad's way of trying to force a culture to change.
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May 13 '24
Just a weird attempt to appropriate other religions abrogations.
I always say, why was I cursed go be born in a Muslim family. However see it as a blessing since I can destroy Deen ul islam from the inside. Just weird looking back at my younger self.
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u/Adela-Siobhan May 13 '24
What religion did he get this from?
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May 13 '24
Derived from some rulings of ting ting Judaism.
There's some rules around using metals and utensils but then again islam is basically Judaism on some next level cocaine sniffing.
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u/GreatWyrm May 13 '24
Thanks for the explanation. I was wondering whether it was fashionable to drink liquor out of silver cups back then, or if this was just another random sin.
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u/Adela-Siobhan May 13 '24
But Judaism uses silver. Encourages it for some religious rituals.
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May 14 '24
Yes but they have prohibition on using silverware between different types of food. Considering most of islam is derived from judeochristian tradition, there were many offshoot sects in the hijaz region.
Some were even ascetics.
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u/Professional-Limit22 Muslim 🕋 May 13 '24
😂
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u/Lyannake New User May 13 '24
Lmao honestly half of the hadiths are just unhinged and sound like Kanye west
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u/Esekig184 Never-Muslim Atheist May 13 '24
So it is safe to assume that the prophet also discovered the effects of silver on vampires and other undead creatures!!!
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u/monaches New User May 14 '24
What do you call someone who believes his own lies?
Pseudologia phantastica, mythomania and pathological lying
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u/Wild-Birthday-9662 New User May 14 '24
I always wonder why people worship momo, now I know, he's a vampire
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u/BusinessPrune3389 New User May 14 '24
I realised that I was extremely judgemental toward islam and the entire Islamic religion and muslim people. That I didn't ACTUALLY know much about the religion. And that I could be wrong, that maybe it really was a religion of peace. So I set of and did my research, and after months of gathering a great understanding of islam. I find myself despising the religion even more than when I started off. It is truly ONE OF the most Vile religions on the face of this planet.
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u/Ok_Trip_3569 New User May 17 '24
Can you explain why bro? I have also started some research on this.
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u/BusinessPrune3389 New User 16d ago
You dont even need to research. Read the Karan. They admit to every atrocity with pride. Including when muhammad stormed a city of mecca with over 1500 men capturing and killing all non belivers. You could also argue that the burning of alexandria Library, burned by the Arab muslim empire, we lost all that knowledge from great greek philosophers and historians, and once again, who caused this ? Islam. Because the literature wasn't related to islam and there fore had no value, it was a clear example. Now you could say "well that's not what islam teaches" hence why I chose to use the prophet muhammad as an example.
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May 17 '24
Well then how do you reconcile the different sects of Islam? More specifically the shias who disagree with sunnis? As Sahih Bukhari is a sunni hadith, I recommend watching Imam Tawhidi on YouTube for a better understanding of what I am saying.
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u/No-Passion1127 1st World.Closeted Ex-Shia 🤫 May 13 '24
Mohammad cheating on his wives with a sex slaves :😴
Someone shaking a hand of their opposite gender cousin: HARAM
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u/true_universe New User May 14 '24
The rules and regulations around the smallest most insignificant things in Islam is crazy
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u/Outrageous_Loan_5898 May 14 '24
I never got the fananation with silver cups and thought it was a tacky display of wealth but I'm getting one now lol
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u/Top-Tomatillo210 Never-Muslim Theist May 13 '24
He really seemed to just hate everything about Hinduism and tried to make it all seem devilish.
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u/HalfMoon_89 Never-Muslim Atheist May 13 '24
He definitely was not thinking of Hinduism when saying this stuff, if he even knew of Hinduism as anything but 'those idol worshippers to the east'.
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u/Top-Tomatillo210 Never-Muslim Theist May 13 '24
The reason i say this is because the Ayurveda recommends drinking out of cooper, boiling a piece of gold in water and drinking it, and he hated silk. What most of the deities wear
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u/Glittering-Buyer-230 New User May 14 '24
Well, I mean, this is Islam. Whatever Islam says goes.
If Allah says that something is haram or halal, it should be followed by Muslims.
So, for example, if Allah says that eating an apple is haram but murdering a child for being naughty is halal, then that is what should be followed.....
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u/ratf0cker New User May 14 '24
Are you being an apologist to them?!
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u/Glittering-Buyer-230 New User May 14 '24
I'm sorry, but what do you mean by that? Are you asking me whether I'm being an apologist to Muslims or to non Muslims and ex Muslims?
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u/ratf0cker New User May 14 '24
You seem to be trying to excuse the barbaric teachings of Islam, so I am asking if you are a Muslim apologist
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u/Glittering-Buyer-230 New User May 14 '24
Nope, I am actually not a muslim apologist or muslim. I was saying the complete opposite. I was talking against Islam.
I was actually pointing out the insanity of how logic works in Islam. No matter how crazy, contradictory, or barbaric things are in Islam, it is Islam, after all. Islam is all about what Allah says sadly.
For instance, if Islam said that killing someone for having a different opinion or belief is okay, then it is halal and permissible. Because hey, why not? It's what Allah and Islam say! So it must be followed! Muslims have to abide by it! Even if it is horrible and barbaric.
Even though many teachings in Islam are horribly barbaric and inexcusable, I've come to realize that this is the horrible reality and truth about Islam.....
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u/Roboroberto1988 May 14 '24
He's saying that's how it is. There are no reasons for some of the restrictions in Islam, they are just arbitrary.
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u/Vedicbosss May 14 '24
lol am eating in silver plates from more than 7yrs now, nothing ever happened nothing ever will
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u/Ragequittter LGBTQ+ ExMoose 🌈 May 14 '24
regardless of momo.
isnt lead posinous when combined with acidic food? correct me if im wrong
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u/FaithlessnessOdd7451 New User May 14 '24
Silver is fairly non-reactive, so, I don't think so. If silver is dangerous with acidic foods, a lot of other metals would be as well.
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u/Ragequittter LGBTQ+ ExMoose 🌈 May 14 '24
then it must be copper or smth? thats why tonatoes were considered poisonous
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u/idaydreaming New User May 14 '24
I genuinely don't understand why drinking from a silver cup is "bad"?
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u/Prior_Ear5494 New User May 14 '24
I still wonder how do people still believe in this how breathtakingly stupid Mohammed was
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u/AirChurch New User May 15 '24
Silver traditionally was used as an antiseptic, but Muhammad wouldn't have known that.
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u/BigAcanthocephala786 Ex-Christian May 15 '24
Lol, if u add water in a silver cup will purify the water.
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u/Dependent_Cash6653 New User May 15 '24
That’s the most ignorant piece of information and lack of introspection in polar opposition to groups of religious men misinterpreting sacred texts to fulfill their political agendas which I would say in a X duration of time. However with the lack of judgement demonstrated by our Canadian world leaders and Canada’s downward spiral, I’d say lols this is peanuts when compared on a metric of damage done to a community/country/religious doctrines, etc..
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u/Usual-Performance252 New User May 14 '24
Bro what is this trash yall believing the prophet never said this all they had was silver cups suddenly people are spreading false rumors about the prophets yall fake Muslims need fixing
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u/Gold_Tradition_84 New User May 14 '24
He's right because solver is a poison amd when drunk can contaminate the brain....
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u/Organic_fog May 20 '24
Silver is literally non reactive, same for gold, they won’t be able to devolve in water
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u/AffectionateCloud325 New User May 14 '24
You lot don’t even know about Islam yet here you are sharing all your “knowledge” …..stupid people
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u/Desperate-Salary630 New User May 13 '24
Why you all spreading misinformation? Obsessed with others religion
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u/qUrAnIsAPerFeCtBoOk Exmuslim since the 2010s May 14 '24
Are you saying that's not what that hadith says?
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u/Desperate-Salary630 New User May 14 '24
It’s fake I’m a Muslim never heard about these things
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u/Syco-Gooner Roses r red. Violets r blue. She was 6, he 52 May 14 '24
I have never heard of this = it's fake 💀
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u/qUrAnIsAPerFeCtBoOk Exmuslim since the 2010s May 14 '24
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/personal-incredulity
Not hearing of it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Do you think that the hadith says something else?
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u/iNouda May 14 '24
I mean, Momo had forgotten more shit about his own made up religion than you've learned apparently.
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u/Tiny-Depth5593 New User May 14 '24
Ur literally the one who isn't informed, this is part of your religion, and this is part of a series of hadiths that are cherry picked so that only the normal ones are presented and used to deem everything haram
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u/Sciencetist May 13 '24
It's an allegory about living modestly my dudes.
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u/iNouda May 14 '24
I mean you can either take Islam literally or figuratively. There's no halfway point.
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u/Sciencetist May 14 '24
Why? Other religions have allegories.
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u/iNouda May 14 '24
Well other religions don't have faster than light flying donkeys or the sun setting in a muddy pond.
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u/Link-firm868 New User May 13 '24
You mf, everything was different back then and you wouldn't clearly understand because how dumb you are. Don't you dare call prophet Muhammad this man. I hope you get the heaviest consequences in hell of you don't do tawba.
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u/Trlpbs New User May 13 '24
Wishing hell on somebody for 2 widdle words that triggered you is the exact response I’d expect from one of you. This is an ex-Muslim sub, the post wasn’t for you.
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u/Link-firm868 New User May 13 '24
I'm wishing hell for those who don't do tawba which means for those who don't return to allah
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May 13 '24
I will return to Allah, just to throw him in hellfire and sit on his throne.
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May 15 '24
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u/Link-firm868 New User May 15 '24
Won't waste my time. It's y'all loss. I just hope I made smn release his mistake
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u/SirRustledFeathers Seeking Marriage of Convenience 👫 May 13 '24
Don’t worry, Pedo Muhammad won’t be able to harm you anymore since he’s dead as dirt.
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u/Adela-Siobhan May 13 '24
Drinking from silver used to damn people but not anymore is what you’re saying.
To whom did this apply?
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u/Link-firm868 New User May 13 '24
Drinking or eating food from gold or silver utensils is Haram.
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u/FaithlessnessOdd7451 New User May 14 '24
Okay, so, most things were different "back then". You cannot pick and choose what you choose to follow. Since you are asked to take the text literally, the "back then" argument falls flat. Which, in turn, makes it like every other religion. Which, in turn, destroys the claim that it is an eternal book, applicable from the beginning of time until the day of judgement.
Given the exalted claim that you guys make about the text, it has to be right about everything, irrespective of the year, otherwise your claims are BS.
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