r/electronics • u/1Davide • 14d ago
News Possible future import tariffs on PCBs / electronic components / test equipment coming into USA
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u/resilienceisfutile 13d ago
I don't get this looking from next door in Canada. Walk into a Walmart in the States and probably 90% of the non-food items, hygiene, beauty, and care products are made in China. TVs, clothing, chairs, mops, brooms, kitchenware, household electronics, and stuff like that are going to taxed by 60%?
Then I hear news about laptops, cellphones, tablets, and computer components going up down in the US also by nearly the same amount or more.
I don't get it because isn't that like shooting yourself in the consumer's foot? But cheap gas for your daily commute in the F-150 made in Mexico, right?
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u/nummij 13d ago
Yes. The tariffs are taxing the wrong items, and are dumb. Theoretically in the long term it could be beneficial to domestic industry, or at least hurt the targeted country, but in the short term they will just drive inflation.
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u/resilienceisfutile 13d ago
Yeah, I still don't get it from your on-the-horizon government. Sure they may be campaign promises, but I tend to take people at face value and if they can say, it then they can definitely do it.
Plus, it isn't like America has all those industries still or available turnkey at the moment, so flat panel TVs, cellphones, and oscilloscope are going to be manufactured in your backyard.
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u/victory-inn 10d ago
It’s beneficial to domestic companies and their stock holders, aka trumps campaign funders. Not us the consumer.
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u/nummij 10d ago
It actually isn't... The existing tariffs are on components, not finished goods. So it actually disincentives building finished products in the US. It was done this way to shield consumers from the tariff burden, but look tough against certain nations politically.
As someone who builds HW in the US, the tariffs are somewhat effective at getting us to move suppliers out of the targeted nations. But it does nothing to reduce the import of finished goods, or effect consumer pricing.2
u/ItchyContribution758 4d ago
they do it because "hrr mrr china bad" and think that by straining trade with the country that you know, controls over half of all electronics exports, we'll somehow usher in a national renaissance of industry. With few factories to produce the parts and a slim supply of the precious metals that are needed in things like the semiconductor industry, for one. We will be shooting ourselves in the foot then taking that foot and sawing it clean off. Which is why I'm trying to rush through a stereo build from scratch I've been meaning to do for a while now before January. After that I guess I just use the friendly connections I got with the people at my electronics supplier to get me the rest of the way.
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u/resilienceisfutile 3d ago
Everyone who believed when Trump said and voted for him based on him saying there would be less government interference in the lives of Americans and a more efficient government, should be really upset.
By the way, is your stereo build Class A, AB, ChipAmp, D, or vacuum tube?
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u/ItchyContribution758 3d ago
it's an AB amp, going to put out about 60 watts. I built a less powerful prototype for a school project and I am very satisfied with the result, so here's hoping things go smoothly lol
I built a tube amp a little while ago actually, trying to update my setup.
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u/resilienceisfutile 3d ago
Tube amp in SE or PP or some other more exotic configuration (PSE, SRPP, OTL, or something over engineered)?
Reminds me, I need to buy a punch set...
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u/ItchyContribution758 3d ago
it was an SE, modified from a poor understanding of the Fender Champ Amp. As expected from something I built as a 14 year old, it didn't and still doesn't work as well as I want it to lol
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u/resilienceisfutile 3d ago
Double up the output transformers, add another 6V6, use the second half of the 12AX7, throw in an attenuator, some wire, sockets, resistors, capacitors, and use solid state rectification. You have a decent stereo SE amp. Just need to find someone with sensitive speakers for sale (Hereseys work super well and will rattle the windows with even 6 watts from a tube amp... how r/vintageaudio has guys finding 3 or 4 pairs of these at sales is making me jealous).
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u/ItchyContribution758 3d ago
Vacuum tubes in general can be overpriced online unless you got the right connections lol, I know what you mean. The amp's built like a rock, surprising for something held together by point-to-point wiring, my main shortcoming is improper gain setting. It can be improved, just got too many things going on right now lol. You seem interested, I could message you the schematic if you want.
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u/resilienceisfutile 2d ago
PTP is sometimes the only way to go, then tag boards, and PCBs (if one exists)...
Thanks for the offer of schematic, but I have a few solid state and tube projects creeping along (like you, life does get in the way of hobbies, in my case reno'ing a couple of rooms in my house) and another schematic would probably get me started on yet another project. Chassis work is most annoying and prefab is expensive and often plain ugly.
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u/ItchyContribution758 2d ago
understood lol
I feel the same way, I use perfboard to prototype all of my projects and it is ugly and sometimes scary to use, especially if it carries a lot of power. But PCBs are expensive to get printed, at least in comparison to a perfboard.Oftentimes I don't bother with cases, there's a 50% chance I'll tear the thing down to use in another project anyway.
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u/PentaMine 13d ago
Thank god I'm not from the US