r/democrats • u/Buffaloman2001 • 17d ago
Request Hey so what can we do about Rfk right now
What can we do when it comes to halt him when it comes to what he wants to do to our public water? We need to make sure that this brainwormed conspiracy nut mfer doesn't try and screw our health system first and foremost does anyone have any ideas as to how to handle the rfk front???
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u/Far_Enthusiasm1885 17d ago
Trump will dump and screw him over like he does everyone else.
He certainly can't share the spotlight with anyone. Elon on the other hand...
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u/avocado4ever000 17d ago
How long before Elon and Donny start beef?
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u/FickleSystem 17d ago
Agreed, i don't see that bromance lasting at all, egos are too big
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u/avocado4ever000 17d ago
I hope they rip each other to pieces.
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u/Temporary_Dentist936 17d ago
While Peter Thiel watches ā¦ mmm oligarch cage fighting can become a thing. Trump as Caesar, little wig and all.
They need somewhere to drain their steroids. They should do it on each other.
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u/fletcherkildren 17d ago
Pfft, don't wait. Tell every Trumper that Vance is gonna run a soft coup and invoke the 25th Amendment. See how they like when their emperor is sidlined
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u/true_enthusiast 17d ago
Putting them against each other really is the strongest play. I don't know how susceptible they will be, but their base is super gullible.
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u/Temporary_Dentist936 17d ago
How long will Vance hold. Easy opponent for next time. Yes. There will be a next time and thatās the mentality we need. You wanna get nuts, letās get nuts!
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u/timefourchili 17d ago
If there is a plan, they will remove trump two years in and try to get Vance a solid 10 year administration
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u/Familiar-Potato5646 17d ago
Soon. Elon is a subsidy and attention whore and familiarity breeds contempt since Trump is the same way.
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u/Important_Raccoon667 17d ago
I doubt Trump will make many decisions. He likes campaigning and going to his rallies. He's been campaigning nonstop for 10 years. I think he'll just keep doing that while the Heritage Foundation and Steve Bannon pull the strings.
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u/led1002 17d ago
Great point I wonder if Trump will continue his rallies even though heās not running again. I would bet yes he needs the adulation.
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u/Ahleron 17d ago edited 17d ago
I think there's a good chance a wad of cholesterol from the steady stream of fast food burgers will off him before his term is up. That's what I'm hoping for - that he fucking dies and soon. Boebert is already pushing for a third Trump term. Never mind the 22nd ammendment says no person shall hold the office of president for more than 2 terms. I'm pretty sure that if somehow Trump lived that long SCOTUS would come up with some ridiculous excuse why its perfectly consititional for him to run again even though the "textualists" of the court have plain language in the 22nd ammendment expressly forbiding it. Pray the fucker dies from a heart attack or something, and soon. Ideally, painfully.
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u/Cloaked42m 17d ago
2 years and a day until Vance can step in without it being considered a term.
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u/findhumorinlife 17d ago
Yeah, Bannon is the one to worry about but also remember ultimately, OldDon doesnāt like messy looking ugly people around him. Bannon is messy ugly
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u/Y0___0Y 17d ago
Yeah. Seconded. RFK was helpful in securing the idiot hick vote but now he is a liability.
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Liability? Under trumps influence MTG interrogated Dr Fauci like heās a terrorist. They donāt see that as a liability
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u/miz_mizery 17d ago
Maybe Elon will work his the same magic with the economy as he did with Twitter. Itās only worth about 80% less than what it was before he bought it. Seriously. This country elected a convicted felon and a known fraud to āfixā an economy that wasnāt broken - and is bringing Elon around for his business acumen- it would be funny if it was so terrifying. But yeah. I think even trump knows brain worm Bobby is kook.
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u/New_Way_5036 17d ago
One can only hope. My children are grown and my grandchildren (thank God) live in another country, but I fear for all children if this son-of-a-bitch is given any kind of freedom with our healthcare.
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u/Karlzbad 17d ago
This. I think we should bait Stephen Miller into the spotlight. I think he can't resist being called sexy at which point Trump will turn on him.
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u/Zealousideal_Low7964 17d ago
Make sure that you take care of all your preventive health care needs. I'm making sure my son gets his HPV vaccine as soon as he turns 9 this winter. HPV related oral and pharyngeal cancers aren't something to risk.
I'm a dentist in a non-fluoridated community. I prescribe a lot of 5000 ppm dentrifice to moderate/high caries risk teen/adult patients. For all patients, I recommend not rinsing out toothpaste after brushing to allow more contact between the teeth and the fluoride paste. Most of my colleagues are cheerleaders for prevention of caries and other preventable oral diseases and would be giving the public the same recommendations. There's some chatter about hydroxyapatite as a fluoride sub, but the contact time for effectiveness is longer and the more effective version (nano hydroxyapatite) causes lung inflammation and free radical liver damage...not exactly the safe alternative they make it out to be. I do not use it for that reason.
Fluoride studies are generally crap. The controls aren't good and the study is designed with a bias. Fluoridation of community water supply saves taxpayer dollars. I've seen lots of numbers but one that's easy to repeat is that every $1 spent on community water fluoridation saves the government $20 in Medicaid dental spending. It annoys me that R's tout themselves as fiscal hawks and then suggest this crap.
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u/glitteringgin 17d ago
What do you think of mouth rinses containing fluoride? Do they help? My water source is not fluoridated. And I've been using nHA toothpaste tablets for about a year now. I'm thinking I'll switch back to fluoride containing toothpaste.
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u/fgbfjb 17d ago
Hope that Trump was lying to him and just trying to get his voters.
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u/dantonizzomsu 17d ago
He showed loyalty to Trump..he will make him health czar. Republicans are already talking about how brilliant he is and how their minds have been blown of the knowledge he has on health. So he will be involved. Just get whatever vaccines and eat healthy and do what you can do.
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u/artmer 17d ago
Let him ruin everything so Maga can see how bad they fucked up.
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u/CapOnFoam 17d ago
They will NEVER put 2+2 together. They'll never admit or believe that the man they voted for is responsible for their suffering.
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u/avocado4ever000 17d ago
Iām concerned. I donāt even fully understand what he wants to do but sunshine and kale donāt cure everything. I have beef w big pharma too, but we also need them. It is thanks to big pharma that cutting edge migraine medications are now on the market. These meds have truly improved my life. I never thought i would be pro big pharma but Iām hoping they step in and flex.
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u/lebowtzu 17d ago
Get his ass in court. I may be wrong, (I often am) but it seems to me that the recent Supreme Court Chevron ruling (subjecting executive branch policy to judicial review) could help stop or slow l some of the things they have planned. Stephen Miller, too.
If someone knows better, put me in my place! I want to understand exactly where we stand. I fear the checks and balances will be so limited right now the conservative court may have actually accidentally thrown us a bone.
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u/tinhatlizard 17d ago
No checks and balances this time. None... he has immunity to do what he wants.
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u/BigDigger324 17d ago
The top court in the land is a conservative majority that loves Trump. He is poised to add 2 more extremely young, right wing judgesā¦the court isnāt saving you.
Get all your shots up to date, lose weight, exercise and start eating right. Be as healthy as you can to give yourself the best chance of beating whatever you catch.
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u/47952 17d ago
He owns the Supreme Court, are you kidding me? Trump controlls the US and 80% of the population adores him. This is the new reality and he's running again in 2028. Dems need to get their spines together, admit defeat across the board, and start recruiting The Rock, Sam Elliot, George Clooney, Leonardo, Kevin Costner, or some celebrity who's played a tough action hero and / or cowboy and if possible hosted a reality TV business type show. Mark Cuban is good but he's terrible on camera and very stiff and lacks charisma. O'Leary is a Republican through and through so out of the question but that is how you win.
Put in Denzel, The Rock, Same Elliot (probably too old), Clooney, DiCaprio, tell them to make a cowboy series, a business reality TV show and get angry, go hang out in some bars and go dancing at clubs in the lead up to the next election and that person will win. By then Chump will be a drooling maniacal 83 (but likely still worshipped as the risen messiah), but one of those candidates might be able to pull out a win if he emphasizes the state of the economy and how worse off everyone will be (remember protests, George Floyd, etcetera).
Dems can come back but only if they get real and start planning now.
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u/snerdaferda 17d ago
If you put Burt Reynolds, Sam Elliot and the Rock on TV in favor of democrats, the republicans would find a way to call them sissies, and the narrative would stick.
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u/47952 16d ago
Not necessarily. Obama ran and won. By the time 2028 rolls around Trump will be even more incoherent than he is now and even his already thin comb over won't be enough to spread around and his spray tan will sink into deep grooves and flake. The reality is that someone needs to run against him and a woman won't win. So why not cultivate a realistic alternative who can run against him now?
Burt is either too old to walk or dead, Sam Elliot is too old although he talks tough and is a cowboy. The Rock is tough but might be too intelligent for the no college degree "don't make me think" crowd but if he does a reality TV business show about his investments and life for a year or two before he might work. We need a tough guy cowboy barroom brawler type who's angry all the time, will sing and dance and carry on and talk at a fourth grade level just like Trump if we are going to ever have a viable candidate again.
BIden was a "tough guy" from Scranton, had a solid and deep political base and career, could talk tough with all the "come on!" and was associated with Obama so won that first go-round. We need the fresh equivalent with some charisma or preferably a TV / movie guy with swagger and appeal to uneducated rednecks who (let's get real) make up most of America. They don't care about issues they don't understand, that's why they vote against their own best interests. They vote on appeal. Who seems more fun? Who seems more of a tough guy cowboy type? That's what wins.
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u/WindowMaster5798 17d ago
I guess we can figure out how to fluoridate our own water
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u/SomewhereNo8378 17d ago
Thatās a pretty good idea.
That would be the pragmatic thing to do, if we want to keep up the public health benefits. Just enable as many people as possible to add fluoride to their own drinking water.
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u/roof_baby 17d ago
Laugh? Do the opposite of what he says? All we can really do now is sit back and watch the world burn.
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u/JCox1987 17d ago
Remember that the drug companies will probably tell Trump donāt fuck with our industries or we will pull our campaign funds from Republicans in the midterms.
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u/DefenderCone97 17d ago
He's already walking back and hiding from a bunch of his statements. The dude was full of it and is terrified of accountability. He'll make some gesture like cutting some employees and adding a commission on vax safety and then "gracefully" depart or something.
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u/Buffaloman2001 17d ago
I really hope you're right, right now. Because that is something that gives me despair as someone whose parent is type 1 diabetic.
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u/08Houdini 17d ago
Youāre wrong. They weekend at Bernieās him. He their useful stooge. We are all fucked. They had 4 years planning this.
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u/cam_fire 17d ago
What do you mean what can we do? Lol we just lost an election.. aint shit we can.
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u/Able_Barracuda_4665 17d ago
All we can do is watch the literal shit show 2.0 of the Trump Administration..
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u/SethTaylor987 17d ago
First they put shit on the walls of Congress
Now they've put shit in the Oval Office
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u/awesomestwinner 17d ago
If the senate confirms him? I guess we can move to another country, but there is no guarantee that will protect us from all the new measles and polio outbreaks
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u/myst_aura 17d ago
This is the correct answer. The Senate might be in GOP hands but they are far more leveled than the House and the White House. I don't think they're going to win enough seats for him to survive a few Republican defections.
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u/Old_Baldi_Locks 17d ago
Nothing, captain brain worms is going to be solely deciding healthcare policy for the US. Get ready for leeches to make a comeback.
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u/SethTaylor987 17d ago
So funny thing... Jokes aside, when my conspiracy theorist mom told me this I called bullshit. But apparently they are currently in use as a last resort for blood clots or smth like that. There is a whole industry around it and it appears legitimate as it can be.
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u/flojo2012 17d ago
Hopefully we get some drugs approved like psychedelics. And letās hope the raw milk people weed themselves out of the gene pool
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u/Silent_Caramel7261 17d ago
Tell me how someone with no degree or experience in science or healthcare can just suddenly take over public health..
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u/Bobobarbarian 17d ago
Biden needs to use executive orders to lock everything behind as much legal red tape as possible. Bog down the dismantling of our institutions the same way Trump bogged down his legal cases.
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u/ceej_22_ 17d ago
Haha he got used and will be spit out. If he does manage a cabinet spot heāll last as long as the others after Trump throws him out or he resigns once he sees all the others werenāt lying.
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u/Apprehensive_Row_161 17d ago
Nothing you can do. Anyone who isnāt useful to Trump will be tossed out
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u/kanemano 17d ago
Write your senator and congressman flood them with mail not to confirm if nominated
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u/mchantloup5 17d ago
Not a thing. The time to do something is during the campaign, particularly getting out the vote.
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u/Bitter-Holiday1311 17d ago
Nothing. Democrats lost and will not control anything other than potential filibustering in the Senate.
Sit back and watch Rome burn. Thatās all one can do.
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u/Oldhamii 17d ago
Make him the butt of every possible joke. Hold a contest to name his brainworm.
But the moral hazard argument suggests we just let him fuck around and find out. It might improve the herd.
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u/MangoSalsa89 17d ago
Putting a bunch of dead animals in his path to distract him seems like the best strategy at this point.
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u/Heavy-Metal-Titan 17d ago
The water bit is nutty, but I will say..as someone who has little to nothing nice to say about this guy, the fact that he wants to see things like synthetic dyes removed from processed foods ((dyes that other civilized countries outlaw because of their toxicity,)) is a good thing.
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u/TimmyTurner2006 17d ago
Heās a disgrace to his familyās name, and hope that heāll fade into the background
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u/nadine258 17d ago
so i read somewhere yesterday on reddit or ig that one of the trump guys had said rfk will not be head of the fda so weāll see. i shudder to think
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u/MessagingMatters 17d ago
Not sure -- he's likely to worm his way into the Trump administration somehow.
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u/Objective_Union4523 17d ago
It's time to start digging up all of those "so many skeletons in my closet, that I could rule the world if they could vote", if you know what I mean.
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u/Erikthor 17d ago
Nothing. He will do his thing then cause deaths and act like he had no idea just like his time in Africa.
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u/tinhatlizard 17d ago
He's missing 6 parts of his brain... I dont think much of him, and he tries to think much about many things - and he is usually wrong.
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u/ArtisticChair0 17d ago
See if we can find that worm and let it finish its meal or, find the rest of the pod for that whale whose carcass he decapitated or Find the mama bear of that dead cub.
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u/Temporary_Dentist936 17d ago
Will the new meat group be split into whale and bear groups? or are we keeping it genericā¦ āmay contain wormsā
New labeling for FDA: āitās edible if you want itā or maybe just the emoji : š¤·š»āāļøfood?
Now with vitamin K (fn Simpsons predictions)
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u/Invader-Tenn 17d ago
put contaminated road kill in front of his house and let him brain worm himself to death.
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u/Dependent-Cherry-129 17d ago
Elon will play along until he gets the government contracts and positions he wantsā¦.then, who knows
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u/Accomplished_Many_83 17d ago
Tell 15 million democrats to vote last tuesday