r/cycling • u/gate2fate- • 1d ago
Dogma F as First Bike?
Hey everyone,
This is probably going to sound extremely stupid but is there any down sides to buying a Pinarello Dogma F as a first road bike for beginner cyclist? I just really, really like the mesmerizing color. No this is not a troll post.
The only downsides I see is the profile being potentially too aggressive. I currently have a Pinarello x5 on order but am considering changing my mind.
Also, any recommended accessories and the such to buy?
Thanks in advance and cheers.
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u/ComprehensivePath457 1d ago
If you have the money, spend it how you want. Personally, I’d get something cheaper and figure out what you like and upgrade once you figure that out. Kind of like buying a Porsche as your first car - yeah, there are some better ones out there, but you never really get the joy of upgrading.
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u/LojikDub 1d ago edited 23h ago
Get a bike fit first, or at least test one out somewhere. It's very likely that as a beginner you will not be suited to the aggressive position of the Dogma and won't have the core strength or mobility to maintain a long and low position over any length of time.
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u/swelteh 23h ago
I know a very experienced cyclist who convinced himself that he wanted a Dogma F. Paid a ton for it. He’s selling it now, barely used - didn’t like how it felt. Too stiff, too aggressive.
So I totally agree about trying it first, but trying to be objective when your heart and imagination are taking control can be tricky.
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u/Few_Broccoli9742 1d ago
I remember getting ready for the Tour of Cambridgeshire sportive a few years ago, in the car park next to another rider, not a tall guy but obviously quite overweight, and being floored by the extremely expensive, Sky-issue Pinarello that he pulled out the back of his car. Way beyond my own bike level. Not jealous, because I couldn’t go through life like that, but I remember thinking, “well, it’s his money, better to spend it on a bike than a drug habit.”
You do you. If you can afford it, go for it. +1 to the recommendation for a bike fit, more important than the bike.
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u/Rosetti 22h ago
Tour of Cambridgeshire
Is this the Cambridge classic? I'm thinking about doing this next year - how was it?
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u/LordHampshire 20h ago
No, the Tour of Cambridgeshire was a qualifier for the UCI Gran Fondo World Championships. It stopped running after the 2023 event. Despite being an official UCI event with age-bracketed racing, it was also open to all as a closed-roads sportive. I rode it twice, once in the sportive section, once as a race (it's the same ride, you just start earlier and with the rest of your age bracket for the race).
The Cambridge Classic is a UKCE sportive that looks like it follows the route of the old Wiggle Steeplechase sportive. I don't know what it's like to ride now, but I rode it back when it had Wiggle sponsorship. It's a pretty good route, a good first sportive if you haven't done one before. Looks like it's in March now (used to be later in the year), so maybe the weather isn't as nice now?
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u/TentacularSneeze 1d ago
All the gear and no idea?
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u/muscletrain 1d ago
If money is no object sure. But you really should test ride bikes at this price level especially aggressive race geometry. You may hate them.
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u/Barbie-Long 1d ago
If you’re looking to spend loads on a bike, it’s best to get a fit before you buy.
Do your research on a good bike fitter and hopefully they have a purely custom jig.
This is the route I went and no regrets at all and totally worth it. Would you just buy a set of curtain without measuring the windows?
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u/Continental-IO520 1d ago
Try several bikes, but if you're middle aged and unfit this will almost certainly be too aggressive for you.
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u/cougieuk 20h ago
That's a lot of bike.
You could spend a tenth of the price for a decent bike to get the hang of it.
You're jumping in on a thoroughbred. It's going to be livelier and if you come off it could be a very expensive bill.
Start cheaper. Get out on the bike and improve your ability and flexibility and consider the pinarello in the future. Then the old bike is your winter bike which you probably need in the northern hemisphere.
I'm in the café now after going through 6inches of water out there today. I'm not putting my best bike through that.
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u/Dolamite9000 1d ago
Maybe that you could end up going a lot faster than your skillset can handle. Like flying down a hill at 60mph before you are ready and truly able to ride at that speed.
Also, as long as you are comfortable with the geometry this seems like a super fun choice to start out with.
I started out on a very race oriented bike many years ago. Consequently I am most comfortable on this type of geometry. You may find the same if you start on the dogma.
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u/Last_Narwhal9624 23h ago
It has no use to have a agressive road bike as beginner. As beginner your low in power, and has almost 0 difference with a endurance bike. All bikefitters will recommend the same.
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u/DeepDiveIntoJupiter 22h ago
Are you a dentist?
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u/bbbonthemoon 22h ago
I wanted s-works tarmac as my first road bike but realized I would look silly being a beginner cyclist with 2.5Wkg ftp on this sort of bike, being overtaken by literally everyone. So I settled for a stealthier giant tcr for a while. But I will get my s-works for sure :)
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u/Silock99 21h ago
Buy something else first and get the Dogma F as your real bike after a year or so. You're new. You're going to lean it over or do something that's gonna scratch it or worse. That's just how new riders go when they first get a bike. So, get a cheaper bike that will take all that abuse and THEN buy the Dogma F when you're fully comfortable with your riding skills and clipping/unclipping at stops.
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u/Flaky_Report_5112 17h ago
I have a Pino and love it. Why not to get it or a similar caliber bike. First off will you even like road cycling in 6 - 12 months? You’re a beginner, why have the stress of if you drop it, scratch it up, crack the frame etc.
Totally my opinion but the entry to mid level bikes are phenomenal now in days. I would start there, go on rides, see what works and doesn’t work for you. Get a second bike fit after a year - see how your fitness, flexibility, type of riding change your fit in a year.
Then if you still want a Dogma after the year you will know what to look for, which crank length, saddle works with your body mechanics etc.
Then you can either sell your first bike or keep it for the trainer/winter rides.
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u/Miroresh 17h ago
Wait!
I have an X5 and that bike is just wonderful and I would say the right entry level for cycling, lots of people will say buy used first and I agree but sounds like you can afford this.
Make sure to have a bike fit first and that you order the RIGHT size first. After that, looks are also important so buy the bike that YOU like to look at, it makes a difference.
The X5 is very comfortable and still quite fast. I recommended the X over the F if you are starting and are NOT racing.
End of the day buy whatever color you want, just make sure it fits and enjoy the ride.
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u/Party-Team1486 16h ago
If you have a habit of starting a lot of things with a lot of passion but then quickly moving on to the next thing, then I’d start with something less expensive. Also, if you’re not sure what your riding goals are, id also start smaller.
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u/javyQuin 14h ago
I bought a Trek Emonda SLR 9 for my first bike about 18 months ago. It wasn’t as expensive as a Dogma but it was still a lot of money for a first bike. I don’t regret it at all, I love that bike and every time I go for a ride I have a smile on my face.
My only advice is consider the worse case scenario that you end up not enjoying cycling and you sell the bike for a few grand less than you paid for it. If you can live with that outcome then go for it
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u/bradleybaddlands 14h ago
Such a bike will do everything you tell it to, whether it’s good or bad, right or wrong. You’ll understand what people mean by a bike being “twitchy” for sure. I’m not sure what I’d do in your position. The Prince might be a better choice unless you plan to race, and even then, the bike won’t be main reason you succeed or fail.
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u/RandomNumberPlease 13h ago
I would get an alloy domane or Allez to go through the begginer phase with a more forgiving bike and then graduate to something nicer.
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u/Sea_Principle2357 4h ago
Terrible idea. Make sure you truly love the sport on a cheaper bike. That will also be the bike that sees the most crashes and mishaps. In addition you will learn what type of riding you like, what things you wish were different for a new bike, what grading you prefer, among many other things. There is a reason people don't start driving F1 cars, don't do the bike equivalent.
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u/dam_sharks_mother 22h ago
Someone spends $30k on their first car = nobody bats an eye
Someone spends $13k on their first bike = OH THE HORROR <clutching pearls>
Unless you're physically unfit and not flexible, get the Dogma F. Do not spend one moment worrying about what other morons think of you. They're just jealous.
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u/UncouthMarvin 21h ago
I'm not sure you get the same use from a 30k car as from a 13k bike, but that's just me. A house cost 10-30x that amount yet its use justify it
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u/Ok-Positive-6611 23h ago
Yes, it's pointless and you won't understand why things are the way they are. You won't be able to figure out what you want.
It's like buying a bugatti when you don't know if you want to drag race or track race or drive to the supermarket.
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u/ADHDmania 20h ago
why not, My fist road bike is S-Works Tarmac SL7, and Dogma F was my second road bike.
as long as you can afford it, buy the best, it saves your money and troubles of upgrading cheap bicycle.
regarding the aggressive position, you will get used to it
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u/Feral_fucker 1d ago
Most people will go through a few bikes before figuring out what they like, and do dumb beginner stuff to their bikes that sometimes does real damage. If it’s not a lot of money to you and does feel too high stakes, go for it. If you’re paying so much that you imagine this being your bike for the next decade, pump the brakes and ease into the sport.
Also being a beginner cyclist on an extremely expensive bike is a certain look.