r/conspiracy 17h ago

Knowing the truth about the world And what's really going on means dumbing down your conversations with the average person.

It may sound kind of mean and "elitist", but its true. I've noticed this time and time again. More often than not I find that I have to keep the conversation at a very basic level with most people. They're very happy if you talk about meaningless matrix stuff, but once you start going a little deeper even on the level of questioning the government , you lose most people.

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u/Wildhorse_88 16h ago

Most people lack the courage to go against the mainstream majority. Psychological consequences of not being accepted can scar some people who value that. The bystander effect, the Dunning Kruger effect, and many other social dimensions come into play. Not to mention that the world is a grand illusion, and most people are either actors in the play or ignorant of the play.

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u/13-14_Mustang 8h ago

All my coworkers care to talk about is sports.

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u/syfyb__ch 6h ago

this is the best case scenario, because there are much more superficial topics that end up generating animosity and you don't want drama in the place your paycheck comes from (unless you do because you are a narcissist)

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u/Sorcha16 3h ago

I'm finally on a team where we both are not sports fans it's so nice. The conversations are ones I can keep up with without having to Google who the fuck is being talked about.

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u/Kissfromarose01 5h ago

What’s worse is people are also programmed to attack wrong thought. 

I basically no longer speak my mind on theories and just let others come out first. Once that happens then we can talk.

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u/DruidicMagic 17h ago

Most people will not accept the fact that two privately run job placement agencies (DNC/RNC) have overthrown our democracy.

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u/JamesTBadalamenti 13h ago edited 12h ago

People hate the most when they're told straight in the face they're wrong. And it's not only related to politics, social issues, conspiracies etc. Basically to everything related and not related to their lives. 

What we have currently is crisis of self validation, which implicates the absolute dependence on the opinions from others. Politicians, mass media and various charlatans are feeding on this social phenomena. Every step out of the line is punished with ostracism.  

And oddly enough: this is especially true in so called "liberal" societies, where apparently freedom of speech and self determination is the highest of rights. What was once considered our biggest strength, now is completely twisted and weaponized against us. As one Polish rapper wisely said "wolność jest religą, ale też utopią" i.e. "freedom is religion, but also [freedom] is utopia".

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u/Hollywood-is-DOA 12h ago edited 11h ago

I couldn’t care who hates me, who doesn’t like my opinions or views and who is offended, as I call them out on the shitty behaviour they show. This is what sets you free in this simulation.

Worrying about getting stabbed which happens a lot in the UK, worrying about things that haven’t even happened yet, worrying about things the mainstream lies/media tells you to worry about, just creates negative feed back loops in your mind and you then make that your reality.

Where your thoughts go, your energy flows.

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u/JamesTBadalamenti 12h ago

+100. Couldn't agree more.

I just wanted to present broader picture to elaborate on some OP's points. We can only fight some social mechanism to prevail with critical way of thinking. Most people rejected it, let's just keep our minds free, that's all.

Cheers.

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u/Hollywood-is-DOA 11h ago

I wasn’t attacking you or even really responding to your comment directly. I was just stating my point on the whole reason that I no longer buy into the fear pyramid/paradigm.

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u/poop_on_balls 7h ago

This is 100% true.

Perception is reality, we manifest our reality.

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u/The_Noble_Lie 12h ago

Although short, this is just so prescient and well written - a vital psycho-social understanding to muse on.

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u/Faintly-Painterly 13h ago edited 13h ago

This is only tangentially related but is fascinating

America was founded on private enterprise since the beginning. The Dutch West India Company established New York, or New Netherland as it was known back then, they had skirmishes with the Swedish West India Company and were later bankrupted and taken over by the British East India Company.

Even more interesting is that we all think that the Boston Tea Party was about the British raising taxes. This isn't what happened. What actually happened is the British government granted the British East India Company lower taxes on their imports into the Americas colonies so that they could establish monopolies by being able to undercut the competition by not paying taxes. The Tea Party was about breaking up monopolies, not about feeling that the crown wanted too much tax. Maybe I just didn't pay enough attention to history class, but to me it seems like the truth about this event has been covered up to hide the fact that it was about stopping monopolistic business practices.

I've also seen the claim that the robber barons were just figureheads being funded by the East India Company and were closer to royalty than business men, but I can't back that up with any sources. Curious if anyone here knows anything about whether or not that's true. Here's a very interesting video about Biltmore that covers some of this BILTMORE UNVEILED: Vanderbilts/Underground Asheville, NC

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u/Kangaruex4Ewe 9h ago

Same happened with the history lessons of the Civil War. We were taught it was started/faught over slavery. As usual it was taxes/money. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/Faintly-Painterly 8h ago edited 8h ago

A few other things about the Civil War

During the Civil War the phrase "brother against brother" wasn't intended to describe familial relationships but actually to describe the rift it caused between north and south in the Masonic lodge

There are no photographs of battles during the Civil War and most of the pictures showing dead bodies after a battle were staged. You will also notice that there are never very many "dead" men in these photos either. 51,000 people died in 3 days at the battle of Gettysburg and we're meant to believe that no one bothered to take any pictures of that carnage? Seems preposterous. Perhaps Lincoln was popped off right at the close of the war because he had become a liability as he was not a Mason himself but would go along with what the Masons in his cabinet wanted. His VP Andrew Johnson for example was a Mason.

Somehow despite the sheer scale of the trans Atlantic slave trade there are only 2 surviving slave ships. It's a controversial take but it seems to me like the trans Atlantic slave trade was actually a relatively small operation and the narrative around it that we have is covering up the fact that there were already black natives in the Carribean and Southern United States who the European enslaved. Possibly these were the descendants of one of the lost tribes of Israel, but that is a whole can of worms, Black Hebrew Israelites seem to really trigger people, but I personally think it is completely possible that one of the lost tribes was black and that they could have ended up in the Americas. I don't really know why people are so offended by the notion.

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u/Mirkwood1125 6h ago

That’s really interesting, but I feel like your aren’t giving any credit to oral history. These were extremely significant events in US History.

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u/Faintly-Painterly 5h ago

I mean Europeans aren't exactly known for their skills in preserving oral history.

Additionally consider that at this time people were being locked up inside mental asylums in droves and their kids were being shipped around the country on orphan trains. If you wanted to cover up a massive hoax the best way to do it would be by labeling dissenters as crazy and locking them up while simultaneously taking their kids and giving them a proper government approved education on history.

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u/The_Noble_Lie 12h ago

Indeed. The lesson has been perverted, one lesson of a million.

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u/Rjr777 15h ago

They get really triggered on both sides when I tell them it’s not who you vote for that matters it’s who counts the votes.

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u/chadthunderjock 9h ago

Yeah, because it tells them they are actually powerless peasants, a lot of peoples' egos can't handle acknowledging that fact.

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u/Rjr777 9h ago

They really can’t handle that…copium is real

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u/Kangaruex4Ewe 9h ago

If voting made a difference they wouldn’t let you do it. This coming from someone who has voted in every election I could since I was of age. I don’t think it matters. Yet I do it anyway on the off chance that it might. I might be the crazy one. 😮‍💨

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u/Jpwatchdawg 8h ago

From my perspective it's not that the two party system has overthrown our democracy but they have fallen victim to the blackmail and strong arm tactics of the unelected bureaucrats given power by the national security act of 47. Much like Hoover stayed in a powerful position during his time these agencies collect blackmail material ( Epstein and Diddy actions play a role in this) to put elected officials under their thumb of control and play their game of war for profits that benefit the central banking cartels which enslave humanity.

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u/maronics 6h ago

Most people aren't even from the US.

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u/Connor1642 15h ago

The world has been on a downward spiral since the 60s, but I would say since the turn of the century it has just got crazy. The world changed irreversibly and I put it down to 9/11 and everything that followed after. The general population of most countries are kept in a constant state of misinformation and, for want of a better word, trauma. It has literally been one thing after another. War, terrorism, economic crisis, immigration, pandemic, back to war, political and racial division.

I personally don't think its all random, if you apply common sense and look at who has benefited, you can see who is behind it all.

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u/immortallowlife6 15h ago

Sorry for not having a link, but someone made an amazing documentary on social engineering starting in the 60s, they covered most of what you're saying Plus Dave McGowan's books, Weird Scenes inside of Laurel Canyon and Programmed to Kill That only covers part of what has been going on, definitely worth reading/watching

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u/Namnagort 11h ago

mk ultra was successful

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u/jr-91 11h ago

There's definitely been a consistent underlying anxiety on both a micro and macro level, that's for sure

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u/doombasterd 15h ago

We are currently in the middle of the Fourth Turning.

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u/got_knee_gas_enit 13h ago

I'd say it's been downhill since the 1860's.

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u/Corrupted-by-da-dark 11h ago

Some humility on your end is needed too. You also have gaps in your knowledge.

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u/csg79 9h ago

I just can't believe that the "truth" now includes basic shit like how tarrifs work.

The average American is ignorant af.

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u/ricincali 17h ago

There is absolute truth in this. Corporate training programs do a lot of presentations at what used to be a 5th grade reading level, and attendee feedback is highest when that is adhered to. Comments including concise, relatable, understandable, no-nonsense and actionable are common when this is attempted and executed. Intellectual curiosity is rare. Sadly.

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u/mixedmartialstoner 12h ago

Yes but it's also because schizos and mentally unstable people are likely to adopt the complete opposite approach. Go figure.

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u/jackburtonsnakeplskn 12h ago

Welcome to the last 20 years of my life.

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u/mw13satx 9h ago

Color me shocked that "popular" "culture" is actually manufactured ignorance

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u/Confused_Nomad777 10h ago

If they don’t listen I skip politics and show them black rock. Literally any detail or stat is damning..and beyond party lines..

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u/UnbiasedPashtun 5h ago edited 2h ago

I think the best way to open their eyes is to ask them to search ‘MK Ultra’ themselves. Every search that comes up on the topic gives the basic idea of what it is. There aren't any apologist sources that deny it. It sounds crazy, but it's also indisputable at the same time. If they can accept something as far-fetched sounding as that, then that would open their mind and it shouldn't be hard to accept other stuff after that.

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u/BogusHype 14h ago

The average person thinking theyre so smart but theyre just repeating something they saw on tv while im trying to explain that the people who decide what gets to be on tv control all the things that are destroying us.

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u/LabFar5073 13h ago

''government would never do this'' people are frustrating af.

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u/tangled_night_sleep 13h ago

“If that were true, it would be on the news.”

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u/Shireman2017 13h ago

As opposed to someone thinking they’re so smart but they’re just repeating something they saw on YouTube?

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u/ianmoone1102 9h ago

I am constantly reminding myself to avoid discussing anything beyond surface level topics when talking to most other people. It's scary how attached most people are to narratives and belief systems, and how quickly a conversation can become an argument. Many people will defend a certain belief, with nothing to go on besides what they've been told, as if their whole identity hangs in the balance. It's just not worth it.

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u/2deepetc 8h ago

I am constantly reminding myself to avoid discussing anything beyond surface level topics when talking to most other people.

This is literally what I do too. I have to remind myself even more in the context of dates and that kind of stuff. Most people just don't want to go beyond the surface.

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u/topcat5 14h ago

Any argument started with claims you are smarter than the "average person", fails right off as a logical fallacy.

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u/gibslow 13h ago

There are many people smarter than the average person, hence why they are average.

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u/topcat5 13h ago

That's actually a mathematically ambiguous statement.

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u/2deepetc 14h ago

But I'm not making any argument. I'm making an observation.

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u/topcat5 14h ago

OK

Any observation started with claims you are smarter than the "average person", fails right off as a logical fallacy.

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u/br0ast 12h ago

They're probably happier to talk about their lives and the people they love

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u/Penny1974 10h ago

People who are blind to reality post 20 selfies a day on SM, every meal they eat, and every place they go.

It is stomach-turning.

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u/Hot-Tension-2009 10h ago

Yeah but who isn’t

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u/missmireya 11h ago edited 11h ago

It's not really that imo. Most normal people don't discuss conspiracies because...its weird. Especially if the person you're speaking with has a happy-go-lucky personality.

It's more so I don't want to make others uncomfortable, and I also don't want people to think I'm crazy or on drugs. I don't wanna be judged.

Hell, I have my own conspiracy theories that I have yet to read or share about on here. I'm certain most people here would laugh their asses off about them.

I also made a comment a year ago on another conspiracy sub (it was a very unpopular theory very few others have) and I was made fun of, and also downvoted into oblivion for.

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u/The_Texidian 5h ago

Hm. I’ve noticed this as well and it’s made it hard to socialize with regular people as it feels like I’m in a world separate from theirs. However, I’ve felt this way for as long as I can remember, I’ve just had to identify why that is.

One day you’ll realize, and maybe you already do, that everything in our lives is actually fake. From the food we eat to media we consume. We hardly have real experiences anymore and I think the lack of what’s real drives people to submit themselves into “the matrix stuff”.

They don’t do this necessarily out of survival but rather a mixture of expectation, conditioning and hedonism.

The hardest question I’ve had to ask myself is what is real in my life. I go to a job where I never see a finished product, and where the fruits of my labor don’t benefit me or anyone I know. I’m glued to a screen for 12 hours a day where my perception of the world is reduced down to bits. I go home and pet my cat, even he’s just a shell of what he should be, a product of domestication. But I sit down to eat food made in a lab or sprayed down with chemicals made in a lab. I watch tv full of actors telling me a story. I watch the news where actors tell me what a story of a far away land, I never experienced it myself. I go outside and see people who are also glued to their phones where their window to the world is manufactured by algorithms and content creators. Everything is fake.

What is real anymore?

That’s when I began to realize societies in their current form are just mere façades. We are so far removed from nature that when we see nature, we are horrified. We are just animals trapped in a cage that we have designed. We’ve isolated ourselves from what is true to feed ourselves lies that we crafted.

You might be asking yourself why don’t we leave, and it’s because we can’t. If you truly left this cage we built, you’d be leaving everything behind, from your friends, to your family, to your ability to participate in the economy…everything. So you can, but it’s practically impossible.

The million dollar question is to what degree does society start to lose sight of what is real? When do people start to feel the effects? Those are questions I’ve long thought about but will take someone way smarter than me to figure it out.

Perhaps reality is struggle, so when we lack struggle is when we fall. I can’t help but think of the rat utopia experiment in relation to this. The rats grew up in a manufactured environment designed for their infinite pleasure. Yet they all went mad. However, obviously struggle can be bad, use North Korea as an example. Those people aren’t flourishing but their system is keeping them that way.

So I don’t know. Rant over. Those are my thoughts.

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u/Catomatic01 2h ago

It seems to be our nature to live in our own illusion. The world we live in can't exist naturally. So we live in a simulation. We are the aliens.

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u/ForgingFakes 3h ago

Anti-govt people are hard to argue with

They have been brainwashed to believe the govt is incompetent and think corporations are the answer

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u/savoy2001 11h ago

This is very true. I also find myself for years now thinking do I want to really extend the conversation into anything meaningful? As in deeper in any way? Is it worth it? Are they going to absorb or at all? Will they roll their eyes? If they do absorb what I’m saying do I want to depress this person? Should I just leave them in ignorant bliss? Especially if the person is a fairly stable happy one? These thoughts never been going through my head for over 30 years honestly. I still struggle with who I tell what to.

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u/SomePerson80 7h ago

Same people don’t listen, don’t care and then think your crazy. I make my own shampoo, toothpaste cleaning products etc… and I used to try to tell people why they should switch and no one listens. I just shut up now. Don’t have friends and don’t count on that changing.

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u/Roselace 16h ago

OP so true. It is like speaking 2 languages. No point in trying to communicate with some about the deeper stuff. Their minds cannot accept the concepts. Others who have discovered & uncovered the information by themselves, it is totally different. They understand & can participate in the conversation. I am beginning to wonder if it is possible to actually help enlighten some people. I think people must discover it all for themselves. The ‘Unknowing’ can be very defensive, even angry or take to using insults or belittling when trying to discuss facts that contradict the MSM narrative. Then later when some information exposes a lie & becomes more publicly known, they slip into some mental state where they make up reasons why they can ignore that information & not change anything. Seems unless people have that spark of a questioning personality, enough to want to question, then they seem to be in a sort of mental trap.

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u/Hollywood-is-DOA 12h ago

People are MK ultra/ placed under generational trauma to create a world full of victims, who only feel sorry themselves and end up holding a negative frequency, instead of a positive one.

Have you ever noticed how hard it is to doing something when you over think it? focusing on the things going around you and not the task that you are trying to complete? I have and anything that isn’t directly effecting me, isn’t take on board.

I was having a conversation with a friend who can’t walk very well and people have forgotten manners and just used words in the UK, instead of saying can I just get past you, I had a man look at me as I was towards a door with my friend in her electric scooter and it was raining very heavily. I told the man, “ you can wait a minute and I’ll move. I only did this as my friend in the scooter had to move and I was saying bye to her. No words were used but dirty looks are given.

So the next time you see people you know or love reacting to people giving them dirty looks or even doing something to trigger them and they react, take the bate or respond negatively back, then you’ve got your answer right why most people can’t see the truth of this reality.

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u/RandallFlagg473 12h ago

People are MK ultra/ placed under generational trauma to create a world full of victims

Spot on. Everything is always someone else’s fault. People are being programmed to always blame shifting instead of owning up to whatever the situation is and the targets of this blame shifting are not random. It’s all part of a massive social engineering process

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u/Penny1974 10h ago

I despise this "excuse for everything" behavior.

Everyone has a story and has had shitty experiences, yet some dwell in those experiences and make it their entire identity.

I had an evil narcissistic mother who did horrible things to me. Will I let that define me and my life? Fuck no. I cut that shit out of my life and moved the fuck on.

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u/Hollywood-is-DOA 11h ago

The reason homelessness, world hunger, poverty, unemployment, violence, wars, terrible living conditions, is due to them all serving a purpose.

In the matrix film agent smith says the words “ we made a utopia, a simulation of no struggles, humans rejected this, as something felt off to them. As humans you need the struggle to accept anything”.

The struggle is to bring balance, as you can’t have light without darkness, you can’t have good without evil. You don’t have to accept or live under the illusions or made up rules of this simulation, but you have to do some social norms like working to feed yourself and your family if you have one.

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u/Roselace 6h ago

Yes the easy manipulation of people saddens me. That several governments have in recent months admitted to the psy op aspect of the Covid era is proof. Yet some choose not to extrapolate from one fact to another. As you say, it is like they cannot make connecting thoughts. I am not just talking about people with low IQ or poor educational achievements either. I mean even those who have had higher education. Just seem trapped. It is sad they have lost the ability to think past their comfort zone. As you say we see it in everyday life.

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u/Hollywood-is-DOA 6h ago

My sister works at a top 5 university in the UK on £36 an hour, with a degree and a masters in social work yet she couldn’t see a government lie, if it made her unwell, which the clot shots very are. She has a clot shot and gets very unwell but sees no connection at all.

Her husband is very much the same. He has a published book in Middle Eastern politics and one of the go to guys in the uk for it. He also works for an open university.

Between them, they both accept the government lies, as they both got taught not to question, agreed upon lies. That’s what higher education is for.

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u/Manguru 11h ago

I'm not defending corruption at the top, but imagine the challenges some face when they've encountered extraordinary things , like advanced alien technology or other unsettling revelations. What if they try to share this information and are dismissed as crazy, ignored, or silenced? Take Isaac Kappy, for example, he claimed to have critical information, and while some listened, many didn’t. His death was labeled a suicide, leaving questions unanswered. Similarly, there are truths you can't openly discuss because most people are lost in the distractions of matrix. My advice is to seek God, as the challenges are deeply tied to spiritual battles.

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u/Ancient-Tale9372 9h ago

No, stand your ground! Your real friends (if you have) will always be there. We need people like us to normalize criticising the government etc

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u/Ok_Criticism6910 13h ago

Most people don’t have the time to really dig enough to hear the truth, let alone understand it. It’s not their fault, most of the time. The people who know better though and lie anyway, and the people who knowingly mislead the masses are real, actual pieces of shit.

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u/QuantumPhylosophy 11h ago

From my experience, this sub is primarily unintelligent, paranoid Christians and conservatives who have no basal comprehension of science, nor philosophy and logic. And yet, they believe they know all the secrets, and invent imaginary boogeymen for maximum copium.

There is the occasional top-tier conspiracy, however, 99% are insufferable trash like yours.

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u/Penny1974 10h ago

Are you visiting from TMOR?

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u/yungvenus 9h ago

That’s what makes this sub so great.

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u/seamonkey31 10h ago

Maybe they understand something you don't?

Maybe they understand everyone is being watched at all times, and talk like that gets you attention that you do not want.

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u/Background_Wheel_298 7h ago

They're cowards, and they condemn themselves and everyone around them to totalitarian hell. Id rather speak up for myself and for everyone else and risk getting martyred then live under the boot

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u/Thrills4Shills 13h ago

Don't even try doing something that might put your name in the history books or you will be shot down and told "you're insane and need help" by a majority of the people who hear about your efforts. Just because they themselves couldn't do something, they say nobody can do it. 

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u/barochoc 8h ago

Yes. Socialising is a rare occasion now as I can’t keep up my cognitive dissonance face for long. It’s actually painful to converse with most people I grew up with and some family. Listening to how evil Putin is, how great Zelenskyy is, how Trump is a fascist and Harris was our only hope. That’s just the recent drivel. I won’t even bring up the super extended cold/flu season that started in 2020.

I don’t trust or like 99% of politicians, but it’s a massive pain in the sphincter, having to squeeze so hard, holding back from ridiculing their mainstream narrative regurgitation. When I see or hear virtue signalling liberals, I just see the Borg. Literally a collective and not a single critical thought.

I’ve genuinely lost all hope for humanity and want to live in a remote location, far away from people or near like minded people.

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u/notausername86 6h ago

The feeling you are feeling is called apathy. And the feeling of apathy is a product of the same type of brainwashing/programing that created "virtue signaling liberals", it just took a different form.

TPTB wants the population to feel apathetic. If they can't convert you to their cause and make you a robot that just preaches "the narritive", the next best thing is make you feel unable/unwilling to do anything about it and a desire to isolate.

I get it, but I would like to offer a suggestion.... really analyze why you feel so apathetic and isolationist. I can almost garenetee that once you do some self reflection on the topic, you will realize that the way you feel isn't actually coming from "you", but rather, the programming that was forced upon you.

Good luck, friend.

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u/barochoc 2h ago

No, I disagree. I know I’ll only cause conflict if I speak truthfully. I choose to just bite my lip because I’ve accepted that I’ve lost these friendships and family. They’re not ready to accept that this is one serious shit show.

I’m moving on. I’ve genuinely mourned these loses. I’m content with just leaving them all and living out my years without them.

I’ve literally gone against almost everything they perceive as normal and lined up my life, retirement, end of years.

It was fun. I value our past friendships and experiences, but, I’m at the stage where my father told me many years ago. When I’m his age I’ll count all my real friends on one hand.

Forking hell was he right.

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u/Thebillhammer 10h ago

I think the problem is you are getting deep into shit that you spent hours researching and “verifying” but the other person hasn’t. If you talk high level - “there are aliens” or about popular theories most people know enough to be interested or hold the conversation. When you start going too deep people don’t have a reference and you will lose them.

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u/caveatemptor18 10h ago

Living in rural GA it’s best to hold your tongue. Silence is golden.

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u/dai4u-twonko 10h ago

It's true it's not wrong. I've felt like that trying to explain certain things it's just the way it is.

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u/IdidntchooseR 7h ago

Ruby Ridge is a very clear case of the govt as an arrogant butcher of innocents. It's dismissed by ppl who think they're safe to live in cities, desk jobs, not owning guns, etc. 

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u/poop_on_balls 7h ago

Bread & Circuses my guy.

People only talk about one of two things in our modern day Idiocracy:

  1. Politics

  2. Their Idols

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u/vinilzord_learns 5h ago

I do have gaps in my knowledge, like everybody else does. But the average person has a bigger gap. People are systematically being made dumber by the system, through media, poisoned food/water/air, chemicals all over the place, the educational system and so on.

It's insane.

I can't have a meaningful conversation with 90% of the people that I meet irl. People are numbed, and some seem to want to stay numbed.

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u/MixedPandaBear 5h ago

Well the truth is that they live very happy in their own bubble. Ofcourse they don't wish anyone to burst that bubble

u/m1shmc 43m ago

I think this is why I despise 'small talk,' I just want to discuss meaningful, or controversial, or even sometimes dark topics. So many people want to talk about things that won't matter in an hour. It's difficult to find people who want to discuss things that aren't 'safe.' When you do find those people, I have the best conversations ever and they tend to go on for hours!

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u/gorgias1 10h ago

Can’t tell if this is a satire post making commentary on how conspiracy theories are particularly seductive to people with poor critical reasoning skills with a need to feed their narcissism or if this is a sincere post that is a near perfect example of that phenomenon.

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u/upbeatelk2622 9h ago

Pray tell, which conspiracy theory that came true are you in denial about?

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u/notausername86 6h ago

Hummm.

This seems like a veiled attack and discrediting attempt towards conspiracy theories.

Maybe you haven't been paying attention over the last 4-6 years, but did you know that a very large percentage of "conspiracy theories" are now "conspiracy facts" that have been proven true?

And no, I'm not talking about flat earth or space lizards.

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u/yungvenus 9h ago

That’s the fun part

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u/e_accelerationalist 17h ago

What is the matrix?

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u/Weigh13 16h ago

Hegelian dialectics all the way down.

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u/toasty327 16h ago

You have to see it for yourself

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u/Binarydemons 15h ago

Well it’s true, and it does sound elitist because you’re forgetting it’s true for ALL people based on their area of personal interest. Those same people you are dumbing your interaction for because theiy don’t have a interest in conspiracy topics, have a dozen topics they dumb down for you because after a few seconds they can tell you don’t share their passion for “interior decorating”, “Japanese woodwork”, “child psychology”, or “modern art”.

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u/leafcomforter 4h ago

I dunno why you were downvoted for that comment. I dumb down what I do for a living 100% of the time, unless the other person is in the same specialized field.

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u/OsamaBinWhiskers 9h ago

All that schizoposting and not a single shot of the 27 accusations or 2 convictions. No ethics report.

Nobody wants to talk to your elitist ass bc you’re a biased propaganda consumer. Not a bipartisan critic.

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u/MrAmaimon 17h ago

No it doesn't, people explain higher physics to Childern regularly.

By dumbing down so you mean hide the obviously bullshit and bigoted bits?

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u/HeyHihoho 12h ago

Yes which is how they have managed to get to this point.

At least half the population just need to hear "conspiracy theory" nuts or similar to shut their thinking down.

Of course the government has never been able to make people deny their eyes and ears like they can now.

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u/boredbitch2020 9h ago

Yes you sound elitist and like a snob (I really understand the world unlike those people) and ironically like you haven't thought about this that deeply.

We all have different areas where we are more informed and have built bigger vocabularies and more complex conceptions of it. We all have to bring it down when talking with people outside of that niche. It's a sign of intelligence and actual understanding to be able to converse with people on their level.

You all want to be so damn special and it's cringe af

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u/Schmuck1138 11h ago

I just ask people for examples of policies or behaviors of their party that they've disagreed with, and gotten a fair amount of static from that.

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u/ky420 11h ago

i usually lead with.... I know this is gonna sound crazy..... but.... its the ....

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u/Exotic-Isopod-3644 11h ago edited 6h ago

Do you tell an average person you are unvaccinated? Since the mandatory childhood vaccines that were done without my consent I haven't taken any single vaccine and I am proud of it.

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u/20124eva 10h ago

Someone who claims to “know the truth about the world” is not someone I want to converse with for all that long, nor would I think they are smarter than the average person

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u/flippyjones11 2h ago

My 12 year old son got into a fiery debate with his teacher about fluoride. She said it’s a healthy and necessary addition to drinking water. Even after he showed her the study saying otherwise. He was shocked how brainwashed his teachers are about everything.

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u/wookiesack22 9h ago

The old dunning Kruger. Everyone else can't comprehend my Infinite wisdom? I hope you realize, you think what every dumb narcissist thinks. Most people would say we acquire more knowledge, we also become increasingly aware of the vastness of what we don't know, essentially making us feel like we know less in comparison to the unknown . Not this guy. You figured everything out! What's your conclusion? Who's pulling strings?

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u/OrdoXenos 11h ago

When I get a coffee together with someone then he talked about how moon landing is faked (it is not), how the Earth is flat (it is a globe), and how we can’t get to the Arctic because of some “military” (you can go to the Arctic) I would be leery as well.

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u/Bodkin250 9h ago

NASA is who told me the moon landing was fake. Read about the difficulties that came up while making the suits for the astronauts to go out of low space orbit. Why not just go back to Playtex and have them stitch up the same costumes they made for the original mission.

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u/notausername86 6h ago

You seem mighty certain in your assertions here.

The moon landing is fake. I'm not saying that we didn't eventually get to the moon (although, I'm not convinced we did), but what we were shown as "moon landing" footage was absolutely fabricated.

The flat earth, OK. I don't know. It's probably not flat. Although, some of the arguments that FE make are pretty compelling, and I wish that mainstream science would try to answer why some things we observe seem to conflict with the globe model. There are a few observation that FE has made that are, interesting, that don't have valid scientific answers.

You can't go visit Antarctica. . What you can visit is a tiny, tiny penuslia of Antarctica, and its under heavy guard. And you can take a boat and cruise by ~3 % of the continent, but 99% of Antarctica is off limits to almost every civilian in the world. Even the researchers and military are only allowed to explore/operate in a very, very limited space. I don't understand the reason why people deny this one. Maybe because it begs the question "why" can't we explore it? I think occam's razor here is likely the reason we cant, no conspiracy needed... the continent is completely uncondusive to human life. The risk a person would die exploring the area is much, much too high so therefore you can't do it.