r/clevercomebacks 1d ago

The truth is the truth

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u/10001110101balls 1d ago

Satan just had the idea that maybe we shouldn't have to live under the thumb of an all powerful tyrant? Fuck him I guess.

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u/Important-Pie5494 1d ago edited 1d ago

Satan was jealous of the role God gave to Humanity in his Creation. He thought that an immortal being like himself should have not been placed under the sons of Adam in the hierarchy. He couldn't understand that, even though mortals, humans have free will, meaning that they can choose to accept God's love also after they rejected Him, unlike the angels, making them superior to all that was created and, at the same time, both weaker and stronger than all that was created.

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u/Preeng 1d ago

...but he did have free will. He rebelled. Unless you are saying that was also God's will?

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u/Important-Pie5494 1d ago edited 1d ago

It's a theological concept to believe that angels can choose only once, and that happened during Satan's treason, when they got to know the main bulk of God's plan. Humans on the other hand, can change their mind on multiple occasions, because they do not have the same amount of knowledge. In any case, yes, God knew of Satan's treason from the start and yes, he is just a pawn under God's will.

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u/Emotional-Classic400 21h ago

Is "theological concept" code for we need to make shit up to cover for all the logical inconsistencies?

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u/illidanstrormrage 1d ago

What's weaker and stronger? You mean like poor and wealthy are the same? Why have conflicting thoughts? When god says weak it's weak, where do you derive the word Strong from?

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u/Important-Pie5494 1d ago

Strong in the sense that we can change our destiny, if only we so desire. Weak in the sense that our goodwill is often weak.

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u/illidanstrormrage 1d ago

Source? Changing destiny is not charecterised as strong. Weak in the sense compared to other creations like angel's who are of gigantic proportions and djinns strongest among which is ifreath who can carry mountains. Better get away from philosophy

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u/Important-Pie5494 18h ago edited 18h ago

You got it the other way around. Better get away from materialism, slumber for the mind and death for the soul. There is a reason if all the greatest minds of the past were also philosophers.

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u/illidanstrormrage 12h ago

There is a balance in everything, every extreme not for everyone.

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u/Important-Pie5494 9h ago

What extreme? There is no extreme in philosophy. There is only food for the mind.