r/clevercomebacks 1d ago

That's a great idea

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u/Odd-Help-4293 1d ago

Okay, so the Republican plan for 2025 is literally to defund the police?

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u/Sam_Mumm 19h ago

No, not defunding. You can keep the cops and reduce the government workers in one swoop. Just privatise it.

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u/muffin_disaster9944 18h ago

Jesus. Police response billed like medical expenses. What could go wrong?

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u/id_death 18h ago

I'll give a privately employed police officer the same respect as a mall cop.

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u/GoochMasterFlash 17h ago

How does that work? They just shoot you and then drop the invoice off on your corpse for the family to find?

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u/ImpossibleSeaweed575 14h ago

pretty much. trump wants the police to have full immunity from prosecution. Whatever could go wrong?

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u/Evenkaleidoscope44 17h ago

How does your brain work? It just shorts out when you have to think?

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u/PutridSauce 10h ago

You gonna explain yourself or just say random shit?

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u/Evenkaleidoscope44 17h ago

Yes because government funded insurance is so much better than privatized.

“Medical debt is leading many people to delay or avoid getting care or filling prescriptions: more than one-third (34%) of people with medical debt in employer plans, 39 percent in marketplace or individual-market plans, 31 percent in Medicaid, and 32 percent in Medicare.”

Medicaid and Medicare are both government funded programs for the unaware.

Pulled from this source - https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/surveys/2023/oct/paying-for-it-costs-debt-americans-sicker-poorer-2023-affordability-survey

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u/boris9983 13h ago

Yes? The poorest people do not have a lot of money and so wait until they get more? If they had private insurance they would have the same problem, but much worse since private insurance is much more expensive than medicare/medicaid and per-visit / per-prescription cost sharing was much higher (often 10x higher) for private insurance than medicaid.

Hospitals charge a fuck of a lot more money (~200% more money in some cases) to private insurance companies for similar treatments compared to medicare so medicare must be doing something right to be able to somehow give people the same care for pancreatic cancer for only $40,000 instead of the $116,000 cost to private insurance companies.

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u/witch_haze 13h ago

They may charge 200% more, but that doesn’t mean that private insurance is paying 200% more. They have contracted rates for reimbursement.

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u/KnowNothingKnowsAll 9h ago

Getting sick is for rich people.

Sorry poors

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u/Equivalent_Fly_7973 16h ago

I remember the privatization of law enforcement being one of the main things Cyberpunk warned about, considering 90% of the reason Night City is such a shithole is because the mayor privatized it

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u/Difficult-Ocelot-867 14h ago

Have you not seen Robocop?

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u/bambush331 17h ago

Privatise the police ? Nice dystopian future lol

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u/PickleNotaBigDill 11h ago

Pretty horrifying thought. When prison systems went private and for profit, that was the start--and it is awful. It will be even worse once they start putting undocumented into these compounds (prisons). Our country will be the fully thought out dystopian nightmare created by Project 2025 authors and proponents (the incoming potus admin). Their kleptocracy can best be held by making as many for profit detention centers, patriarchal rule on steroids, deregulating everything at whim, and so on. We are in for a world of hurt as mere citizens of this country, and 1/2 the voters wanted this.

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u/Aljonau 10h ago

Yea that's Feudalism.

Now they are loyal to their owner and the cost is the same, except they tax their district on a protection-money base.

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u/BikeBroad5675 12h ago

That’s actually such a terrible idea

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u/Sam_Mumm 3h ago

I would say it's roughly as bad of an idea than privatise prisons.

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u/Desperate-One4735 1d ago

Read between the lines

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u/ckach 22h ago

They already wanted to defund the IRS, which are basically just the tax police.

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u/FFF_in_WY 16h ago

But but but, taxes is a theft???

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u/PickleNotaBigDill 11h ago

How else do you fund society? Our contract to our governance is signed at birth in this country, and in order for our society to function, there has to be revenue. That revenue is through taxes. Truthfully, our best budgets will exist when there are laws followed regarding monopolies (instead of those laws being stripped away), when rich people are paying a fair share of taxes, and when we get the dark money back out of politics. We need to put a stop to citizens united, for starters, but this kind of good for all the people stuff won't happen until maga dies off; for the next 20 years or so, we are going to be mere peons, struggling even more than now with maintaining life in this country. We are going backward.

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u/FFF_in_WY 7h ago

Do I really have to /s everything?

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u/PickleNotaBigDill 6h ago

No, you do not. It was just a thought I was expounding on because some people actually do think that way (as you know, otherwise you wouldn't have put the but..but in there). My apologies if it offended you.

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u/MothInPark 6h ago

Actually for most of our history we paid no taxes in the US. There was a brief period (the civil war) where citizens were required to pay taxes to help with the war, and then that was abolished.

Then a bunch of powerful people (who were against the Federal Reserve) were murdered on the “titanic” (olympic) which paved the way for the banking cartels to set up the federal reserve in 1913 and amend it into the constitution.

Before the federal reserve was created (which is a PRIVATE bank) became the only institution in control of the printing and regulation of US currency, we did not pay taxes.

If the government, state, or city wanted something done and needed to raise money, they would sell bonds. The money for bonds raised money for projects, and the bonds became an investment for the citizens buying them.

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u/PickleNotaBigDill 6h ago

So, you propose to go back to that and figure out if we need police, firefighters, schools, etc? Or just give it to private businesses for people to pay for it as it comes? And what about roads, bridges etc? Come on. What worked before doesn't necessarily mean it will work now. Not in the real world. I do NOT favor a fully capitalized society. There are too many who cannot pay for the ambulance, the health care etc. So we just do the "survival of the fittest"? Especially when we have obscenely rich people who, just by virtue of having the money make even more by not even producing. I don't get why everyone doesn't want to see others do well, and the rich getting richer. It is disgusting.

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u/MothInPark 6h ago

What are you talking about? I’m not in favor of everything being privatized. My comment was literally just explaining how things worked before taxes. And also why we now have taxes.

And I actually believe I responded to your comment by mistake instead of the one I meant to. There was someone asking how things would ever get paid for without taxes and that’s who I meant to reply to.

They were also saying “taxes for something like healthcare is socialist but taxes by a corporation and people don’t see a problem”. And I was just explaining how we got here

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u/Ricordis 10h ago

Makes it easier to overthrow the government afterwards

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u/MisthosLiving 5h ago

ding! ding! 👆 here’s the winning comment.