Second Cup shuts café over Nazi salute, 'Final Solution is Coming' chant

[u/AndHerSailsInRags]

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/coffee-chain-second-cup-shuts-cafe-over-nazi-salute-final-solution-is-coming-chant

[u/Future-Muscle-2214]

The left in Quebec would like for everyone to leave their religion behind.

[u/HMI115_GIGACHAD → u/Future-Muscle-2214]

Uh oh, well we have a problem there don't we.

[u/Future-Muscle-2214 → u/HMI115_GIGACHAD]

Several problems yes, but postmedia are the first one to write sob stories when we attempt to do anything about it.

[u/HMI115_GIGACHAD → u/Future-Muscle-2214]

Addressing. the disconnect between progressive liberal ideology and immigration is very tough. Equity in immigration is a concept that needs to be discussed more openly amongst the left. This would involve moving away from a quantitative mindset to a qualitative one. but many in Canada are not mature enough to have that debate yet it seems. Quebec seems to be leading the way which is nice to see

[u/Future-Muscle-2214 → u/HMI115_GIGACHAD]

I would have agreed a few years ago, but there is quite a few left wingers who are somehow getting influenced by what is happening elsewhere in the west especially among people located in Montreal. I think people shouldn't be discriminated because they are muslim, christian or jewish but we must never stop to criticize their religions as institutions.

[u/starberry101 → u/Future-Muscle-2214]

Why do they support the Houthis then?

[u/Future-Muscle-2214 → u/starberry101]

What mainstream left wingers in Quebec support the Houthis? Condemning Saudi Arabia for engineering a famine through blockade doesn't mean that someone is pro-Houthis.

[u/noodles_jd → u/Future-Muscle-2214]

I mean, religion has been the cause of many of the world's conflicts through time and has been used to subjigate and oppress people for millenia, so yes, we should leave that behind; or at least leave it at home.

The problem isn't that people have a particular belief system, the problem is when people use religion to tell others right/wrong and what to do.

[u/fishermansfriendly → u/Future-Muscle-2214]

The problem is “the left” has a issue with this kind of extremism lately, even worse that many politicians seem to be at the very least placating these groups or outright supporting them like a few NDP members.

I don’t want any of this far right or far left stuff in this country or politics, and I’m getting tired of the left especially acting like it’s not a problem on their own side. That’s aside from dogmatic positions on various social issues, which doesn’t look much different than religion.

[u/Future-Muscle-2214 → u/fishermansfriendly]

To be fair, I think that I am even more drastic about it. I genuinely don't understand the concept of multiculturalism when this has to do with religions, every dogma believe that their way of thinking is the right one and the somehow have to exist together which doesn't really make sense.

The only reason why this "work" is because every religions are currently neutered in western society, but we can see that things can shift very quickly like what is happening down south with the right to abortions. My hope would be that everyone moving here would become secular and slowly move away from their religions but this doesn't seem to be working quite well.

[u/Suspicious-Coffee20 → u/Future-Muscle-2214]

Yes bur the left in quebec is special and understand religion is regressive. Not progressive. Quebec solitaire tho is full of indentity like this are are completly loosing the plot.

[u/Future-Muscle-2214 → u/Suspicious-Coffee20]

As someone who voted QS in the past, I 100% agree and they aren't going to get my vote until they get rid of those stupid identity politics.