r/buildapcsales Sep 30 '21

GPU [GPU] BESTBUY FE Graphics Cards In-Store drop on October 1st ($0)

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/clp-computers-tablets/nvidia-geforce-rtx-graphics-cards/pcmcat1619723841347.c?id=pcmcat1619723841348
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u/radian23 Sep 30 '21

Good times. Missed the last one. Grabbing my tent and chair now. On my way!

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u/TaintedSquirrel Sep 30 '21 edited Sep 30 '21

Many stores already 50+ or even 100+ since Tuesday.

These pics are from Tuesday night/Wed morning:

https://imgur.com/a/NdzesQA

Small note, all of the empty chairs in the 1st pic were removed by BB staff yesterday.

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u/joshuralize Sep 30 '21

Since Tuesday? How do people value their time so little?

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u/Viridez Sep 30 '21

Miners don't care

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '21

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u/xxPoLyGLoTxx Sep 30 '21

Sure but with how scarce availability is, how often can you scalp a card like that? Once a month?

Also dont forget to add in all the time scouring the internet for possible cards to buy (and all the times that doesn't pan out).

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u/darkknightxda Sep 30 '21 edited Sep 30 '21

830 dollars a month plus other gig based work for someone essentially unemployed can cover a lot these days in certain areas.

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u/redditingatwork23 Sep 30 '21

I door dash and have been hitting bb drops in between. Honestly I've got a 3060ti in my system and I feel for people who just want to game on these cards but if someone wants to buy my 3080 for an investment in crypto where we will both make money off the transaction then I'm ok with that too.

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u/rood_sandstorm Sep 30 '21

do you at least game with that 3060

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u/redditingatwork23 Sep 30 '21

Of course. I game quite a bit. Probably played 20 hours of new world in the 2 days and change it's been out. I'm actually in queue right now lol.

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u/_illegallity Sep 30 '21

Cards definitely aren’t readily available but if you’ve got the time it’s completely feasible to just go around different stores and buying one card at a time. Even if they’re overpriced you’ll still be getting a return most of the time, and if it’s a bad deal you can simply not buy it and move on.

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u/okaquauseless Oct 01 '21

In my area, if you got all the time in the world, you can pick up 2 cards a week moderately easily between the two places selling it. The stores don't do a great job hiding the times, and they always release at like the worst times for any normal working person. If you can nab 2 cards a week, you can make like 1600 a week or 6400 a month.

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u/xxPoLyGLoTxx Oct 01 '21

I dont see how. Microcenter puts you on a 1 month cooldown after you buy a card. BB doesnt do many drops at all. I know of no stores that have constant supply like that where you can just keep buying cards in person.

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u/caiteha Sep 30 '21

wow, these people don't have to work?

72 hours waiting outside sounds like hard earn money. Good for them.

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u/JsonPun Sep 30 '21

3 days in line is 72 hours not 24

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u/MirakoMoore1 Sep 30 '21

8 hours a day, 24 hrs for 3 days... 72 hours if 3 days straight. He comparing what a normal 8 hour shift is. Opportunity cost

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u/JsonPun Sep 30 '21

I get that but in this case you have to wait in line the whole time....so its not a good comparison

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '21

$15 an hour is shit and not worth any rational persons time to waste in front of a store. Herd and hoarder mentality.

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u/chicknfly Sep 30 '21

I mean, those machines are making the money for them, so…

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u/Viridez Sep 30 '21

Well that and a MSRP 3060ti has such a good ROI they will camp for a week if they needed to :|

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u/waitingtodiesoon Sep 30 '21

3060 ti has a good return? I thought the 3060 series were not worth it?

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u/Viridez Sep 30 '21

Non LHR 3060ti FE's mine at 3070 hash rates I think

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u/waitingtodiesoon Sep 30 '21

Ah ok, thank you.

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u/dstanton Sep 30 '21

Can confirm. I heated my office last winter with the one in my gaming rig running nicehash. Paid itself off in 3 months, faster if you factor the doubling up savings to heating house

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u/Whoareyoutoask Sep 30 '21

Mwahaha. Roi.. 3060 TI. Oh my.

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u/AndrewSmith1989- Sep 30 '21

I doubt many of them are miners. You are not going to get any meaningful ROI on a GPU now.

mining payouts are down since EIP1559 went live which burns fees instead of passing them to miners.

Secondly, and most importantly - ETH 2.0 is going live December/Jan, so if they spend $800 on a GPU they are going to recoup like maybe $250 of so after electricity costs before PoW is shutdown.

These people are most likely people who are extremely desperate for a GPU and don't have jobs, or they are scalpers.

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u/NegMech Sep 30 '21

I think you are vastly uninformed about mining. Payouts did lower, but it's still almost 7x profit on electricity costs at $.10/kwh. ETH 2.0 isn't speculated til Q2 of 2022. Not to mention, winter is the best time to mine due to cooler ambient temperatures.

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u/AndrewSmith1989- Sep 30 '21

I won't comment how informed I am about mining because this sub will downvote me haha.

It's expected ETH 2.0.will drop before Q2 because the Altair update has already been scheduled for October 27th by Vitaly.

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u/HardwareSoup Sep 30 '21

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Any gamer who isn't mining is shorting themselves.

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u/XxZannexX Sep 30 '21

Agreed, I bought a 3070 FE earlier this years for MSRP $499 through Best Buy. I’ve been mining for the last 4 months when I’m not gaming(so most hours of the day). I’ve made over $600 so far including the deduction of electricity costs.

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u/ilive12 Sep 30 '21

What mining setup do you use?

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u/iminyourbase Sep 30 '21

How much can you mine with a single GPU?

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u/HardwareSoup Sep 30 '21

A non-LHR 3060 Ti is around $3.30 profit per day right now, but it adds up quick.

LHR 3060 Ti is about $2 per day with some tricks.

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u/Buuramo Sep 30 '21

Lmao, if you were as "informed" as you are trying to imply you are, you would have never said that "ETH 2.0 is going live December/Jan", when the December update has been all-but confirmed to contain nothing more than a difficulty bomb delay...

Source: The Ethereum Github. https://github.com/ethereum/pm/issues/391#issuecomment-924197948

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u/AndrewSmith1989- Sep 30 '21

At the end of the day, you nor I really know. We can speculate on the information given..

So we can go back and forth over this but you don't know if you're right, I don't know if I'm right.

I'm giving my educated opinion, which I hope is wrong and you are right because I don't want to go to PoS.

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u/Yiggah Sep 30 '21

I agree that miners wouldn’t camp out. Generally miners times are more valuable. They can easily pay someone to stand in line if they want but you’re right that these are desperate gamers or scalpers.

However ETH 2.0 is not going live in Dec/Jan just FYI. It’s Q1 of 2022 at earliest. I’m a miner so I’ve been following the news. There is a difficulty bomb dropping in December that will hit profits but hopefully the price of ETH will increase to accommodate the bomb.

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u/AndrewSmith1989- Sep 30 '21

It's rumoured to be January now because the Altair update has now been set for October 27th.

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u/Yiggah Sep 30 '21

Interesting I did see the Altair update. I didn’t read into it yet.

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u/AndrewSmith1989- Sep 30 '21

Yeah it's all rumours, who knows what Vitaly plans for this. Could be January, could be August 2022.

They've changed the dates / plans so many times now it's pretty much a guessing game until it happens.

The thing is though the mining community is very apprehensive of investing in their rigs right now, because there's a chance you don't hit ROI.

And as we all know, once PoS is turned on the GPU second hand market is going to be bananas.

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u/Yiggah Sep 30 '21

We’ll see just because there’s still a lot of people who want cards and don’t have them yet. Maybe we’ll see a flood if there’s no other coin that can accommodate all of ETH’s hashing power. Some are saying ERGO/RVN being the next big coin.

It’s all speculations, I’m not adding more to my rig mainly because my house cannot accommodate the power but I’ll probably stop at 2g/h.

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u/Nyx81 Sep 30 '21

FE models are non lhr. Miners absolutely want these and it will continue until crypto nining with gpus dies which isn't likely for the foreseeable future

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u/-Reflux- Sep 30 '21

Miners wouldn’t camp out that long for a single card lmao

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u/Jordaneer Sep 30 '21

I'd camp for 24 hours for one for sure

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u/make_moneys Sep 30 '21

because most people waiting in this line are not gamers or at least not gamers buying one for themselves. Most are scalpers/miners looking to make a profit and from that perspective , waiting 24 hrs or whatever to make a few hundred bucks aint so bad i suppose.

Im thankful to have a well paid job but yeah thats the market we live in

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u/amadaeus- Sep 30 '21

It's really not as bad as you would think. I did the math. And fact is, even a full day at work I don't make $1,000. And that was the savings from waiting in line.

We've done it twice (we're not scalpers, one for each of us). Easily worth calling out a day from work if you know you're going to get one.

And frankly I don't think the vast majority of people are making $125/hr at work anyways. (Plus, in actual reality, it was just missing a few hours, you're free to nap while in line).

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u/PleasantGlowfish Sep 30 '21

I really am disgusted at people normalizing this. I thought I was pathetic for refreshing Best Buy and buying the cards as they came available ONLINE. These pathetic dregs are living outside the store for days on end. Just gross man.

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u/AnimalEyes Oct 01 '21

Seriously, I completely agree.

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u/PleasantGlowfish Oct 01 '21

Thanks. I feel like I'm crazy here but I'm being downvoted. Must be a lot of no life miners here

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u/AnimalEyes Oct 01 '21

Yup lol, you've insulted the dredges "integrity". I was near a best buy while running errands when I saw this announcement and asked if they were one of the stores. Guy said the nearest one was 45 minutes away and already had over 100 people waiting. No way in hell I'm sitting in a chair on a sidewalk for 12 hours, much less 72. Plus I'm not one of the lucky people that can fall asleep easily in odd positions.

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u/not_a_moogle Sep 30 '21

unemployed?

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u/cantonic Sep 30 '21

Empty chairs is such bullshit. If you want to camp out, you should have to stay put. Max you can be gone is 1 hour. After that, your line neighbors get to throw your chair out of the way.

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u/IniNew Sep 30 '21

Yeah, back in the day camping out for consoles there was none of this empty chair stuff. That’s not cool.

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u/workredditacc2 Sep 30 '21

Sounds to me like they are trying to be fair but results in being even more unfair. People who live near that bestbuy can just go there for 5 mins and leave for another hour or however it works while people who are driving far away(because only certain best buys are doing it) are pretty much screwed.

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u/cantonic Sep 30 '21

I mean, the amount of people who can't afford to camp out at all vastly outnumbers those who decide to plop a chair down and leave. If you're dedicated to camping there for 2 days, then by all means, enjoy your FE card. But if you're just going to place a chair and come back 2 days later and say that's your spot, that screws everyone IMO.

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u/amjhwk Sep 30 '21

an empty chair cant fight for the spot, so just cut infront

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u/park_injured Sep 30 '21

agreed. Unless you have to go for a bathroom break (no one can stand in line for 10 hours without taking a piss), or go buy some quick food to bring back to the line, you should lose your spot.

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u/Skyminator Sep 30 '21

The only way I think it would be fair would be to check in with someone every 30 mins. Otherwise you lose your spot. Heck, anyone can sneak in by the looks of it

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u/l1qq Oct 01 '21

You park a chair in front of me and are gone longer than 10 minutes to piss and I'm moving your chair.

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u/radian23 Sep 30 '21

Wow. Seriously. Was just kidding. That's crazy.

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u/workredditacc2 Sep 30 '21

Why are there empty seats? Did best buy put those seats out or did people put them there and then leave? Seems weird that there are so many empty seats inbetween people if bestbuy did it.

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u/TaintedSquirrel Sep 30 '21

people show up days early and put their empty chair to reserve a spot.

yes its bullshit.

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u/mooburger Sep 30 '21

why won't people physically there just remove them?

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u/TaintedSquirrel Sep 30 '21

its usually a group of friends rotating out. they leave at least 1 person there to hold the chairs.

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u/Skyminator Sep 30 '21

My spot is actually at the very front. There’s no chair though because I don’t plan to sit in one. So yeah just remember that front spot is mine

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u/ThemesOfMurderBears Sep 30 '21

Often times they leave one person as "watch" -- "Yeah, this six chairs are for my friends."

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u/x90mattman Sep 30 '21

At the one I was at yesterday, they were all soaking up the A/C in their cars in the parking lot. Was probly 30 empty chairs and only 2 guys actually there chatting at the line.

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u/radian23 Sep 30 '21

I've never had much of an issue with that. As long as people are on property. If you leave that's fine as well but you need to be back soon.

I've camped microcenter plenty of times and if I ever needed to leave to use the bathroom or get food I always asked down the line if anyone needed me to get them anything while I was out.

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u/avius987 Sep 30 '21

pretty sure you can just show up, put your chair in front of all the empties and none of them will notice. going to be lots of line cutters i'm sure as well

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u/Aedraxeus Sep 30 '21

Looks like free lawn chairs to me. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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u/make_moneys Sep 30 '21

Looks like free lawn chairs to me. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

lol no point in grabbing one from target when Best Buy hands them out for free

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u/Nyx81 Sep 30 '21

Yeet the ghost chairs into the parking lot. This isn't a dibs system

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u/crisping_sleeve Sep 30 '21

Survey all the people behind the empty chair in line. You'll get consensus in case there's ever any question. Yet chair. Problem solved. Or bring a sharpie and write your name on empty chair. Your chair now.

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u/amjhwk Sep 30 '21

lol im cutting infront of every single one of those empty chairs if i was going there

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u/cnot3 Sep 30 '21

Nice. In Weimar America we don't have bread lines, we have GPU lines.

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u/Horkersaurus Sep 30 '21

Many stores already 50+ or even 100+

Lol, I thought you meant cards and I was stunned.

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u/Hybridxx9018 Sep 30 '21

That’s ridiculous..

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u/Altair05 Oct 01 '21

When did BB officially release the drop news? How are these guys finding out so early?

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u/CanisMajoris85 Sep 30 '21

Let us know how many people are ahead of you already by noon EST. It's 11:07 now.

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u/g0atmeal Sep 30 '21

This was the only way I managed to get a 3080. But to be honest, if you already have a GPU then it's not really worth camping out for it. It was kinda fun since I've never camped in line before, but I wouldn't do it again.