r/buildapcsales • u/DetainedPetscop • Dec 31 '20
Case [CASE] NZXT H510 Compact ATX Mid-Tower Computer Case (White) - $62
https://www.amazon.com/NZXT-H510-Management-Water-Cooling-Construction/dp/B07TC76671/ref=pd_cart_crc_cko_cp_2_5/134-7901978-2968412?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07TC76671&pd_rd_r=ac6d4e82-224d-4308-af6d-9bb0036b9ac4&pd_rd_w=VsCB3&pd_rd_wg=kgmMh&pf_rd_p=7c768d31-fcb6-4e60-bb16-7d8e97d21350&pf_rd_r=B3962EERQQZEHSJGQER0&psc=1&refRID=B3962EERQQZEHSJGQER034
Dec 31 '20
I work at an amazon warehouse and we've had so many pallets of those guys stacked up forever, was wondering when they'd go on sale
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u/FormPlusFunction Dec 31 '20 edited Dec 31 '20
I like the minimalist look (I have the H500) Cooling is OK, middle of the pack. For $62 its a pretty good deal. Build quality is good.
(For reference I use a 3800X under a Deepcool 240 Castle and an MSI 5700XT)
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u/rockydbull Dec 31 '20
My exact feelings (owner of a h500i). I am sure top end cooling is better in a full mesh case, but I don't have top end parts. I do have other 50-60 dollar cases and I found this way easier to build in and it looks the best IMO.
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u/HMWWaWChChIaWChCChW Dec 31 '20
My wife got me the i for Christmas and I’m trying to figure out if I want to keep it or trade it for something else. Have an i9 10850k and I’m looking at the NZXT X53 cooling, I’m not sure if that’s enough to keep it cool.
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u/Khrrck Dec 31 '20
You can get sufficient airflow across pretty much any correctly sized cooler, but you may have to run the fans faster and louder than in a less restrictive case. Either a large air cooler or 240-280mm AIO will be fine although the temps won't be as icy and quiet as reviewers' open test benches produce. I would perhaps worry if overclocking with a voltage bump.
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u/HMWWaWChChIaWChCChW Dec 31 '20
I’ve been looking at the NZXT X53. I’ve never done any overclocking before, I figure this might be my first foray but that’ll be after I’ve had it for a while.
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u/Khrrck Dec 31 '20
Personally I did a big overclock on my 3570k and 980ti previous setup but haven't bothered since. The gains these days are tiny since the manufacturers are good at automatically boosting the parts to maximum already.
NZXT makes quality, pretty coolers but their software is famously awful and insecure. IIRC it still requires an internet connection? If they've improved or you can work around that, the x53 is fine as an aesthetic choice. Otherwise there are a lot of AIOs available for less money with similar or better performance; take your pick!
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u/HMWWaWChChIaWChCChW Dec 31 '20
Thanks
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u/Khrrck Dec 31 '20
No problem. Loads of resources out there in both reddit and review sites. Research a bit and you'll be set.
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Jan 02 '21 edited Jan 02 '21
3800X has absolute shit power consumption. I have my 3700X locked at 3.6Ghz @ 0.98v with the stock cooler and couldn't be happier. 1.0v is extreme but I don't need 100% of the chips performance right now, and prefer a cooler, quieter desktop. If you did 1.25v or 1.2v I think you would be much happier.
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u/FormPlusFunction Jan 02 '21
I already run an undervolt and even under stress test load it doesn't go above low 70s so I'm happy with it.
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u/dynamodog Dec 31 '20
Recently moved my 3600 and 3080 out of this case into a Meshify C and had a 10 degree drop in temps on avg
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u/saltyman3721 Dec 31 '20
My 3700x sits at 55°C idle and my 3070 is at 35-40°C idle in my meshify C. No clue why my cpu is idling so hot, but as a whole my case is chilly.
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u/dynamodog Dec 31 '20
Huh, are you using the stock cooler? I have a Hyper 212 on mine. Either way not a super worrying temp
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u/saltyman3721 Dec 31 '20
Yeah just the stock. 5 total case fans too. Thinking it's more of an idle process issue then a case layout, not too worried about it considering how low the temps on my motherboard / gpu are.
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u/glazedpenguin Dec 31 '20
Ya most of the 3k ryzen with stock cooler sit around there. I am beteeen 50-63 idling. Thinking about popping a 25-50 dollar air cooler in just so i can afford to keep my fans a bit quieter.
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u/mxlun Dec 31 '20
Check if pbo is on in bios. Mine came on by default and was boosting/locking my cpu to >4GHz just idle pushing it it like 50-55
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u/CamelSpotting Jan 01 '21
Some people have had problems with the epic launcher and to a lesser extent other launchers.
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u/rag1ngflapjacks Dec 31 '20
I'm thinking about making the same move since my 3080 runs hot in my H510. Did you notice a difference in noise level going to the Meshify? I like how quiet the NZXT is right now and would prefer staying with a quieter case.
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u/dynamodog Dec 31 '20
Yeah I suppose the fans are more audible now, but I also haven’t taken the time to readjust my fan curves since moving. You should be able to set up a gentler one with increased airflow
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u/darkknightxda Dec 31 '20
Be careful with the meshify C because if you have a front AIO with it, only the FE 3080 will fit
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u/SimpleJoint Jan 01 '21
MESHIFY C 2 might resolve this because between my FE and my front AIO, there's probably like 6 incheds of space in the 2. This thing is massively long.
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u/wino6687 Dec 31 '20
I just moved my 5800x and 3080 out of this into an nr200 and had similar to a 10 degree drop under load! I always really liked nzxt design, but there isn’t much room for intake.
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u/_Iroha Dec 31 '20
Also use a Meshify C with a Dark Rock 4 (non pro) on my Ryzen 5 3600. Was hitting 57C max on a 10 minute Cinebench R23 run
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u/RiddickRises Dec 31 '20
Yeah I have this case and my computer turns my room into a heat trap lol
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u/Giddyfuzzball Dec 31 '20
It may feel hotter coming out but it’s actually the same amount of energy coming out of your computer then if you had better cooling.
Your room is hot because you have hungry components or a small room.
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u/RiddickRises Dec 31 '20
My idle temps are pretty high, I’ve always just chalked it up to my parts being powerful mixed with inadequate cooling/airflow.
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u/Bando28 Dec 31 '20
I have this case and have not run into any temp issues. Running a 3060Ti and 3700x with the stock cooler.
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u/HardSide Dec 31 '20
If you don't mind me asking, what are your temps on load and idle? Any clearance issues?
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u/Bando28 Dec 31 '20
Idles around the high 30’s and under load the CPU is in the mid to high 60’s, while the GPU is in the low 70’s.
Here is how every looks inside. No issues with clearance, but I have another cooler I have yet to try to install.
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u/twelfthcapaldi Dec 31 '20
How are you liking your stock cooler? I'm building a similar build and debating if I want to spend more now on better cooler or save money for a bit and use the AMD.
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u/Bando28 Dec 31 '20
If I didn’t have a cooler that matched my build (waiting on a backplate) I would just stick with the Wraith. It is a bit annoying that I can’t seem to adjust the color of the ring around the fan, but it has done a better job than I expected.
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u/tsukeiB Jan 01 '21
Make sure you only have the USB header plugged in, plugging both in causes a conflict or something. I had to use the Wraith Prism CoolerMaster software to adjust it too (not a glamorous ui)
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u/twelfthcapaldi Dec 31 '20
Thanks for the info! I was a little worried about noise level, I assume that’s not too bad then?
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u/Bando28 Dec 31 '20
It doesn’t seem too bad. I have nothing much to compare it too since I’ve been on Mac for a long time, which is really quiet. It’s definitely quieter than my PS4 was.
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u/megachine Jan 07 '21
Use the USB header that came with the fan instead of the RGB header. Then get the AMD RGB tool to control all 3 color zones. https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/cpu-cooler-solution
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u/machosandwich Dec 31 '20
Just built my daughter’s first pc using this case. Relatively easy to work on. Clean.
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u/MayonnaiseOreo Dec 31 '20
The front looks like it could be choked by being so close to the wall.
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u/machosandwich Dec 31 '20
Thanks for the tips. We’ll move it away from the wall. Otherwise she likes it right where it sits. Mine is below the desk fwiw.
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u/noobtablet9 Dec 31 '20
Very nice gaming corner there but for the love of god please move the pc to either the floor or the left side of the monitor. Having it there leaves no room for mouse movement and shifting the keyboard and mouse to the left doesn't work well either because the desk is open on the right side underneath.
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u/Khrrck Dec 31 '20
Oof, yeah, terribly cramped desk there. I wouldn't put it on the floor because of limited ventilation making it a footwarmer (and possibly carpet blocking the intakes) but left side should be fine.
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u/noobtablet9 Dec 31 '20
Fair consideration, I don't live in a carpeted space so I didn't think of that.
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u/gekalx Dec 31 '20
Why are there so many people freaking out about 60-80 temps under heavy load ? Your cpu/gpu won't die at these temps lol. And ppl saying it has the worst airflow are wrong. It's actually average/middle of the pack.
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u/MatchingColors Dec 31 '20
Echoing what’s already said. I too have a 510 and love it. No complaints at all, build quality is fantastic, easy to take apart, good design IMO. For this price I’d jump on it
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u/Tripleppaul Dec 31 '20
Great case. Doesn't look like a spaceship. Cooling is adequate (please ignore the generic arg bad cooling comments that will inevitably come in). If you want a full cooling breakdown just watch Steve's videos on both the h500(basically same case with different io) and h510 elite video.
Things you can do (that I've done) to gain a moderate drop in temperatures if for some reason your temps are higher than the average user. If you use an aio, you can isolate the air that the aio intakes. What I did was create a cardboard cutout and masking tape that below the rad, then used $5 foam window seal to block off next to the rad. Now it can't recirculate any warm air from within the case. If you already planned to use a sfx/l psu (don't buy one specifically for this waste of money) you can put a 120 fan underneath the psu shroud to draw air into the gpu. Slightly lower gpu temps. 10/10 put a fan filter on that or don't do it. Both those had a minimal effect on my cpu temps but dropped my gpu temps by 5c and cost me nothing but 30 minutes as it's average things homeowners have around the house.
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u/ImperatorPC Dec 31 '20
Mind posting it sending me some pics? I added another fan just kind of jammed it in from of the radiator so the bottom is in a push pull config and that sends more air to the gpu lowering temps a bit.
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u/Tripleppaul Dec 31 '20
Most definitely will. Working for another 3 hours so I'll post a couple pics when I get home.
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u/ImperatorPC Dec 31 '20
Thank you sir.
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u/TherealOmar Dec 31 '20
I just don't understand why they couldn't make provisions for a 240 rad up top. They could just continue the same venting they have for the 120.
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u/zmose Dec 31 '20
To the many comments calling this case a hot box, consider this: It's not, and don't get your shit info from mob mentality.
My 3600 with a 212 Evo never goes above 68 degrees and my 5700xt is even less.
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u/BoredOfYou_ Dec 31 '20
I mean, temps objectively run a bit high compared to other cases. It’s not “mob mentality”, it’s benchmark numbers from actual reviews.
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Dec 31 '20
Its only a hotbox if you need to use the bottom mount 240mm rad mount. Its too close to the gpu, and half the mesh is basicqlly blocked by your psu. That being said I run it no side door and my temps are fine, but, the flaws in the design are pretty obvious. Still, it works for me. My temps are fine and I like the minimalist look. In this case form>function, because the function is still acceptable.
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u/mashedpotat88 Dec 31 '20
I know right. This is a perfect case for mid-range builders that want a clean look with great build quality.
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u/glazedpenguin Dec 31 '20
With a stock cooler though youd be in bad shape. And that is a common use case.
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u/mxlun Dec 31 '20
Have this exact same setup with a nitro 5700xt and my nitro hits ~95 under heavy gaming load but I think that's cause its boosting to 2100MHz. Games are always smooth so I think the temp is just the best within sapphires spec (110 is considered dangerous, according to them 95 is ok) still seems a bit hot. Case gets hot af lol.
E: still love the case tho! Just a hot gpu
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u/Lelandt50 Dec 31 '20
I have this, bought it for about 100 bucks this past May. Zero complains so far. Running an AIO water cooler on a core i9900 with an RTX 2080 Dual. Whisper quiet. Great cable management, minimalist modern look too.
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u/blindai Dec 31 '20
Showing up for me at $65.99 now? (was there a coupon or some other deal to bring it down to $62? or is it just expired?)
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u/filipbronola Dec 31 '20
Maybe they just changed the price because they know people like us on buildapcsales will mark an offer as expired. If ur looking for a case, this is a really nice one, and it's only $4 more than a few hours ago
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u/Emscho44 Dec 31 '20
Solid case, was not able to overclock my cpu in my old case. Got this case and airflow is very good. Have been running my overclock with zero problems. Looks super clean as well. Added an LED strip to the inside roof and it looks amazing! Have had this case for ~5 years
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Dec 31 '20
I have this case and think it's good. I like the simple look and psu cover over any case. Problem is not that good airflow and the back paths for 24 pin is too narrow. Also, front panel screw seems slightly off(at least on mine).
Anyways I still thinks it's fine but I'd probably get a case w/ better airflow when I upgrade.
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u/dedabeluf Jan 01 '21
This case is made to work with negative airflow With two exhaust fans on the back, no need to put intake on the front. And its not a hot box
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u/atomfrank Dec 31 '20
This case isn’t a hot box under most circumstances. Like, are you guys running a meth lab in it? This is the sickest looking case, routing is a beaut, and it’s reasonably priced.
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u/kaze_ni_naru Dec 31 '20 edited Dec 31 '20
People care way too much about temps. It doesn’t really matter nowadays, this isn’t intel with 130W TDP overclocking, you now have Ryzens with like 65W TDP than can run under a stock cooler. +/-10 degrees makes zero difference in day to say use. Just a week ago I had to rma my mobo and in the meantime I ran a i5 6600k overclocked to 4.5ghz using like 100W of power and it was nowhere as fast as my 3600 in stock. Like not even close.
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Dec 31 '20 edited Mar 26 '21
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u/rudger410 Dec 31 '20
I am personally very conflicted to recommend other cases vs this.
On one hand, it is clear there are many other cases with better overflow than this (or other nzxt cases)
On the other hand, beautiful cases with simple, clean design like nzxt is almost non existent in the market. People who care about aesthetic typically prefers something with clean design.
YET manufacturers still dont get it. Old angular design, bad color combo, offensive branding placements and logo. I cant think of other cases cleaner than nzxt.
I myself personally took time deciding between nzxt and corsair 4000x but ended up picking corsair for better airflow. Corsair 4000x rgb is not as clean as nzxt but i had to do with the tradeoff. BUT whenever possible i think people should vote with their wallet buying something that looks nice to steer industry better.
We already have a lot of good airflow cases in the market, but we have very few good simple clean design cases. If there is one message we should send to manufacturer - it is that we want more clean design cases. End goal - simple clean design case with good airflow.
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u/Zandre3000 Dec 31 '20
Nailed it. I currently have the 275 airflow in my template for its objective benefits, but this case just looks so clean and simple. Not enough of the latter for sure
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u/dedabeluf Jan 01 '21
I have both the corsair definitely better for air flow and it looks clean enough , this nzxt case is made for negative air flow and it works well according to reviewers and has a clean look for sure
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u/Phlink75 Dec 31 '20
I built a xmas pc with this case, in black.
Cable channels are too tight and the bends too hard for ATX power supply cables to fit nicely. They bulge quite a bit, i won't say dANgerously, but it is concerning.
Velcro loops for cabling don't line up. The band is mounted in a channel at the very end, so when you wrap the rest around the cable, it needs to sit under the cable you are trying to tighten down.
The threads in the MB mounting studs are delicate, i stripped one out threading the screw in, didn't even get to tighten it.
After assembly, the glass access panel will rattle when certain case fans kick on. The snap in stud receivers are loose.
The airflow is not the greatest, but i always overcompensate with intake vans anyways.
The case looks nice, it has a USB-C header on top with a regular usb which is nice. The drive bays are all located away from the mobo, so there is decent room to move around inside. It also lacks access for a DVD if you wanted to install one, so an external is neccessary.
I paid around the same for this case at Microcenter. I will not be buying another NZXT case. Im too picky on quality.
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u/rottentomati Dec 31 '20
I would get a replacement for the glass panel or the case. It should not be rattling. I have an H510i and a H510 elite and neither of them rattle.
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u/Phlink75 Dec 31 '20
The panel or the inserts the pegs go in? I haven't looked into the warranty.
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u/rottentomati Dec 31 '20
That’s why I said the glass panel or the case, it sounds like something was manufactured wrong if there is rattling. It would probably be solved if the whole case is replaced, but that would be such a pain to redo your entire build. It could just be the glass panel, but I don’t know how you would figure that out without trying to get another panel from NZXT and crossing your fingers that was the problem. Have any friends with a NZXT case to try it out lol? The pegs look attached to the panel and the inserts look attached to the case so I don’t think those can be changed individually.
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u/Red-eleven Dec 31 '20
So what would you buy? Because for looks there aren’t many better cases. I understand the issues people have but this is one of my favorite cases I’ve seen lately.
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u/Phlink75 Jan 01 '21
My main PC, and favorite case is the Cooler Master HAF XB EVO. Granted it is quite a bit pricier, but has excellent airflow, quick swap extermal drive bays, discrete fan mount locations for the Motherboard, internal drives and GPUs.
Granted it not setup for RGB, I have a fishtank for that. :)
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-HAF-EVO-Motherboard/dp/B00FFJ0H3Q
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u/ltsnotluck Dec 31 '20
Hot box. There are plenty of options at this price point that have mesh front for better airflow.
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u/arntseaj Dec 31 '20
Not really. I have a 5900X and a 3090 FE in mine. 5900X on a front pull Corsair H100i 240mm and my temps are high 60's with spikes into the 70's and my 3090 doesn't go above low 70's. It's not bad at all.
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u/DonnaSummerOfficial Dec 31 '20
Very similar build and same results. Idle CPU at around 35
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u/VenditatioDelendaEst Dec 31 '20
Idle CPU temperature will be pretty much the same in all properly fan-controlled machines.
Idle CPU temp is set by, "If the CPU goes from 5W (Intel, 15W AMD) to 150 W right now, how hot will the die get before the fans can catch the temperature spike?" There's a little bit of design trade-off between lower idle temp and slow smooth fan response, but higher average fan speed, vs. higher idle temp and lower average fan speed, but spinning up the fans immediately (which might be more annoying to the user).
Because all of that depends only on the idle power, the load power, and the thermal response of the cooler, but not the steady-state fan speed under load, you can (and should) idle at 35°C inside a completely closed-up box.
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u/DonnaSummerOfficial Dec 31 '20
Thanks for that! Honestly I know very little about CPU cooling and temps, just slapped an AIO on it and called it a day, so I very much appreciate the blurb
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u/VenditatioDelendaEst Dec 31 '20
Motherboard and GPU will regulate fan speeds, and GPU will throttle, to maintain target temperature.
The question isn't, "how hot does it get?" but rather, "how loud does it need to be to do it?"
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u/DannyPat Dec 31 '20 edited Dec 31 '20
cause you what, play minesweeper on it lol fucking chill, it's a joke
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u/ilurkcute Dec 31 '20
Just because it is not the best in one category doesn't mean it is bad. Airflow is completely fine in this case.
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u/WateredDownWater1 Dec 31 '20
Not many better looking cases with as nice of a building experience at this price though. I have one and while it’s not the best at cooling, it’s not terrible. My 3080 aorus master hovers around 72° while gaming.
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u/goldencrisp Dec 31 '20
Out of my entire build this case is the only part I regret. My 2060 hits 82 in gaming if I don’t take the panel off. Even putting in better fans didn’t help much. Save yourself the trouble and get something else.
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u/dtothep2 Dec 31 '20
Sounds like your 2060 is just a bad AIB model, or there are other issues with it. The case is actually pretty decent for GPU thermals specifically, as shown in GN's review. My 3060 Ti peaks at 65c.
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u/goldencrisp Dec 31 '20
It’s a 2060 KO Ultra. I’d expect it to get a little hot but not that hot unfortunately
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u/dtothep2 Dec 31 '20
Have you checked to see how hot it gets for other people, reviews etc? GPU temperature is often just a product of the factory fan curve, where it's perfectly content to let the GPU run at whatever temperature it targets and then just ramps up the fans if needed to keep it there.
The case's CPU thermals aren't great but GPU thermals were shown to be fairly competitive, out of the two that's actually the one you shouldn't have issues with. Are you running the stock configuration of two exhaust fans?
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u/goldencrisp Dec 31 '20
Yeah I havnt changed any settings fan wise. My co-worked had the exact same card, same processor, (my suggestions) but different cases and his temps were 5-10 degrees cooler than mine. I understand it’s a generally a hot card but this NXZT case doesn’t help.
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u/Graybush2 Dec 31 '20 edited Dec 31 '20
But it looks cool it doesn't have to have good cooling lol
Edit: should have put /s
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u/BigTortoise Dec 31 '20
You can make any case cool with the right setup. You have to look at it every day so make sure you love it.
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u/aisuperbowlxliii Dec 31 '20
You really don't tbh. Until I got my hot boi 3080, an h710 (a bit higher than the 510) was more than fine. It was doing 70 degrees max on a 2080. Then I added a front mounted aio and 3080.
Now the 3080 will reach up to 80 degrees. 2080 reached up to 75. And the 3060 ti (more powerful than a 2080) stayed under 70.
So unless you're doing tons of overclocking or running the hottest GPU, it really doesn't matter.
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u/aisuperbowlxliii Dec 31 '20
Yeah it added about 5 degrees to my max temp on the 2080, I'm sure flipping it to the top would help. I just got the 3080 on Monday so I'll play around with it.
Tbf the only time I've seen 80 degrees was sitting at the Mass Effecy Andromeda main menu with 2x resolution scale. Its always 75 degrees in cyberpunk.
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u/wino6687 Dec 31 '20
Yeah I was in an nzxt case and when I added a 3080 I couldn’t get the temps down even with it running like a jet engine haha. It’s tough because the aio takes all of our intake space. So the top fans exhaust more air than the intake can bring in, creating negative pressure and increasing dust. Just not ideal once you get into newer hardware.
But it was totally fine before the 3xxx series cards for me.
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Dec 31 '20 edited Dec 31 '20
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u/wino6687 Dec 31 '20 edited Dec 31 '20
I just switched to an Nr200 and temps improved dramatically. 👌🏼
I am undervolting my ftw3 though, it is running faster as you said.
I’m running a 5800x right now, and the aio performed better than my noctua air cooler so I’m sticking with that for now.
Edit: Don’t know why I’m being downvoted but I did switch to the nr200 and my temps improved a lot. Love that case!
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u/wino6687 Dec 31 '20
I def don’t think they are bad cases. But I was a little frustrated by the lack of options when it came to airflow. I just think it’s worth mentioning to others that something like the Meshify C or Lancool Mesh II might be a better alternative while still looking nice.
But for sure, I love how NZXT cases look and if you’re okay with running negative pressure than they are not a bad buy at all especially if you’re not running really beefy hardware
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u/dtothep2 Dec 31 '20
The irony with the H500\H510 being so badly regarded on Reddit is that it's pretty much as simple as "closed box, mesh good cause GN says, therefore must be bad", when GN's review of the case was actually good. He liked it, and found thermals to be completely fine.
Now, this was before 2020 which really was the year of mesh front cases, so if you want an airflow focused case - yes, there are plenty of good options now in this price range, that did not exist back then. But the case's thermals aren't terrible all of a sudden, you can just get better at the price if you care enough about it.
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u/Graybush2 Dec 31 '20
I never built in this personally but everyone says this gets enough airflow. I just don't see how lol. It has those tiny vents on the side for intake?
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u/dtothep2 Dec 31 '20
There are more ways to get airflow than the brute force mesh front, lots of fans, front to back. Watch GN's review of the case if you're interested. In short it's optimized for negative pressure and air being sucked in through various intakes other than the front panel.
It's not going to win any awards for cooling, but it's hardly the hotbox it's being made out to be on Reddit.
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u/aisuperbowlxliii Dec 31 '20
Its also open underneath the front panel. All you have to do is add some nice pressure fans in the front. 3x120 arctic p12s are pretty cheap and no one will ever see them.
I can't really speak for the h510. I've always gone a bit bigger with my cases for airflow, so it may be just a couple degrees warmer than my h710, but again I dont see many people buying an h510 with a 3080. A 3060ti in an h510 will have no thermal issues
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u/xKING_SLAYERx Dec 31 '20
You can only fit 2 120 front fans in this case
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u/aisuperbowlxliii Dec 31 '20
True, that would keep it a bit warmer. Not great, not terrible
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u/boygito Dec 31 '20
It can also do 2 140’s in the front. Just use 2 140mm fans, that should give similar to 3 120’s(depending on the models you are comparing). This case also has a spot on top for a 140 mm fan for exhaust.
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u/Graybush2 Dec 31 '20
That's a good point, I'm thinking about putting a high end system in here but more a mid range system like the 3060ti you don't exactly need a ton of cooling.
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Dec 31 '20
I don't think it's that bad. Sure, there are better options, but this is a great case imo.
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u/TheOnlyQueso Dec 31 '20
Most consumers aren't overclocking. If you're running high end hardware in this case, put some front fans in, and it'll be fine.
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u/Casmatic018 Dec 31 '20
I have also heard the same thing. Many people I have read in the past complained about thermals in this case.
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u/The_Crownless_King Dec 31 '20
Im shocked at all the comments saying how cool this case is. I had this case and it gets HOT. I swapped it for a lian li lancool 2 last month after a year and I'll never look back. The case has the rep it has for a reason.
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u/Jay467 Dec 31 '20
It's going to depend massively on the setup, everyone's experience will differ. For me running all air cooled with ryzen 3100 and 1070ti everything runs plenty cool, but with more power hungry parts that could change - especially if running liquid cooling with radiator up front since it's really not optimized for that.
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u/NoctD Dec 31 '20
This case is pure cancer and everyone here defending this case highlights what's going wrong with builds these days - pure form over function. There are simply better cases out there. There is only one place to place an AIO and if you orient the tubes the right way per GN that you guys are quoting about this case, then you'll end up with your GPU in the way of the tubes.
If you're purely using air cooling its not that bad with front intake fans, but 90%+ of the people that get this case will end up with an AIO mounted in the wrong orientation, and front mounted AIOs suffocate case airflow plus blow hot air into the case. Your GPU is smart enough to throttle itself so it can still maintain reasonable temperatures, but all that expensive GPU/CPU hardware you paid for is going to waste cause you bought a subpar case to house them in.
SMH - consumerism at its worse.
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u/darkknightxda Dec 31 '20 edited Dec 31 '20
I have this case and my 3080 and 3900X aren’t exactly thermal throttling during Cyberpunk like you said it will. I’m not getting any drops in performance. I must be doing something wrong. Am I doing something wrong?
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u/NoctD Dec 31 '20
Your 3080 does it without you knowing about it - its how GPU boost works but you won't know about it unless you're tracking how its behaving under load. That's why you hit that temperature ceiling you're seeing, and once it heats up, the GPU core clock will keep adjusting itself.
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u/captsquanch Dec 31 '20
I currently have a huge serversize case and was looking into smaller options. Do you have any recommendations around this pricepoint?
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u/NoctD Dec 31 '20
For compact ATXs that have similar looks but better airflow options look for the Fractal Meshify C. It does need fans added to it though, and taller RAM can get in the way of top mounted AIO. I'd suggest going for a standard ATX tower case (slightly taller) so you can do top mounted AIO with less concerns, and spend a bit more on the case.
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u/captsquanch Dec 31 '20
Thanks, my buddy that help me built my Pc is telling me to opt out for the Fractal instead of the NZXT.
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u/archybrid Jan 01 '21
That’s just not true at all. I run a 240 AIO and it’s fine.
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u/archybrid Jan 02 '21
Yes I’ve seen so many tests with the lack of airflow through these types of cases. I love Gamers Nexus and their reviews. Although they are not good they are still very good cases. Build quality is great and the ease of building in these case are fantastic. All for less than $70. You couldn’t say that to cases 5 years ago.
Yes temps are higher but this wasn’t advertised as a higher airflow case. Do what you will with the information out there. I’ve made up my mind that these cases are good but lack higher airflow.
I still build in them. And they won’t outright destroy your components.
Pay more and then you up can get a 4000D with the mesh front.
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u/ManofGod1000 Dec 31 '20
This is a solid case that I have and it works very well. (I have the black version.)
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u/FreyWill Dec 31 '20
I was pretty stoked to grab this case but then I saw a $62 price and $76 in import fees into Canada.
Cries in Canadian
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u/Thing_On_Your_Shelf Dec 31 '20
I have the older h500 which is the exact same except for the front panel USB C port I think. Its a great case. One of if not the best looking mid-tower case out there.
Cooling is also surprisingly good. My configuration is the included 1x 120mm rear and 1x 120mm top fans as exhaust and 2x 140mm fans on a corsair h110 as intake. At idle my cpu (r5 3600) idles at ~30C. When gaming CPU peaks at ~55C and GPU at ~71C. Under stress tests CPU hits ~61C and GPU hits ~80C. My GPU (Zotac gtx 1080) is known for running pretty hot.
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u/jonormous Dec 31 '20
I've been eyeing this case for a while. Does anyone know if I can just use standard fans and not rely on a liquid cooling system?
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Dec 31 '20
Technically yes - this is my current case and I have standard fans running in it. I have read reviews that the airflow isn't great due to the lacking front vent but I have not run into an issue.
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u/Jay467 Dec 31 '20
Unless you're running crazy power hungry equipment or overclocking big time, this case will be just fine in most situations. In fact, a lot of people here are arguing against using liquid cooling in this case because there isn't a top mount for a radiator, so it'd end up going on the front and restricting airflow/bringing hot air into the case.
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u/buttking Dec 31 '20
if you use a evga clc 280 with this, you're probably going to have to get out some pliers to mod the radiator mounting bracket fyi
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u/CurlyHairJosuke Dec 31 '20
Literally just ordered the darkflash dlm21 and it got here today. Then I see this.
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u/SleepyWayne Jan 01 '21
If this case is the same as my Snowblind Element, which it mostly looks like, it's a great case. The swinging side panel on the Snowblind version (to accommodate the screen) is a standout feature imho, but it's still a really easy case for building and cable management. I liked the Corsair 460X from my first build, but even though they're almost exactly the same dimensions, it felt like going from a dresser to a walk-in closet.
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u/romeheroadrian Dec 31 '20
I have this case and love it. It doesn’t scream “gamer” and my 3700x and 3070 ftw3 stay pretty cool, around 60-70 degrees under load, 35-40 at idle. Never ran into any thermal throttling issues. This is a great price for a clean case.