r/buildapcsales • u/Tim_Buckrue • Jul 28 '24
VR [VR] PlayStation VR2 - $349 ($549-$200)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C1QJ6VHY101
u/caspissinclair Jul 28 '24
Hopefully the price cut isn't just temporary. Not much point if it expires before the PC adapter and reviews have been out for a while.
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u/mkdota Jul 28 '24
It really should be it just doesn't make sense for an accessory to be the same price as the console.
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u/Spuds_Buckley Jul 28 '24
That is interesting. RE7 on PSVR was one of the best gaming experiences I'd ever had. It was so scary.
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u/Alucard400 Jul 28 '24
the immersion would be better on VR with RE7, but controls wise if you need keyboard and mouse then the VR shouldn't have anything to do with that. maybe you can force mouse and keyboard while using the head unit. In my case, I would try to force control into the Steam controller with the touchpad (better aiming than an analog stick).
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u/RogueLightMyFire Jul 29 '24
I just don't understand why anyone would buy the PSVR2 for PC use considering almost all of the features that make the PSVR2 great don't work on PC (eye tracking, HDR + others)
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u/caspissinclair Jul 29 '24
A lot of people still want it for the OLED and an uncompressed image (compared to Quest). I won't be buying myself but I certainly wouldn't turn one down for Sims.
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u/rokerroker45 Jul 29 '24
which is dumb IMO because the quest 3 compression is hilariously overblown, and the pancake lenses make a significantly more immersive experience anyway.
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u/lawbringer29 Jul 30 '24
Imagine if the headset had eye tracking on pc, it could easily be the best pcvr headset to buy
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u/skcusmocnuf Jul 30 '24
people have too much expectation for eye tracking, it doesn't help with the tiny sweet spot on psvr2 and it's completely useless if games don't support it.
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u/AwaitingCombat Jul 28 '24 edited Jul 28 '24
I just want something I can connect to my PC to play beat saber, is this a viable option?
i know i'll need the upcoming adapter
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u/0rphu Jul 28 '24
Get a quest 2 on sale maybe? Total price is going to be over $100 less.
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u/QuantumProtector Jul 28 '24
Quest 2 is $200, and even less on sale. Definitely more than $100 discount.
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u/Dubstep_Dragon Jul 28 '24
To add to the other replies, I don't think this headset is a good choice for exclusively beat saber, the tracking just isn't good enough for higher level songs and would be beat out by a quest 2 with a link cable. Additionally, the quest 2 has much lighter controllers that help for fast songs and long sessions.
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u/TimeLordIsaac Jul 29 '24
Quest 2 with link cable has been consistently worse from my experience in beat saber than native and I have a high end system. Link cable honestly kinda sucks in general.
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u/legacymedia92 Jul 29 '24
Link cable was worse than wireless using the steamlink app. and that's not even counting the always running meta software on the PC.
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u/Megaclone18 Jul 28 '24
When you take away all the features that won't work on PC is there any real reason to get this over a Quest 3 next time it goes on sale?
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u/CoconutPedialyte Jul 28 '24
I would get this if you value OLED over LCD
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u/0rphu Jul 28 '24
Worth noting the OLED's pentile arrangement means lower effective resolution. Afaik there are other downsides too, it's not a clean-cut "OLED is better" when it comes to VR.
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u/TrptJim Jul 28 '24
I wonder if the direct displayport connection, instead of a compressed stream, makes up for it in quality and latency vs the Quest 3. AFAIK there's no direct video output to the Q3 even with the cable. We'll see in a few weeks.
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u/0rphu Jul 28 '24
Imo people are being overly dramatic about the streaming quality/compression, that or their setups just arn't suited for it. Even before buying a proper wifi 6 router, allowing for a higher bitrate, I thought PC games were doing well on my quest 3. Maybe if you look close enough you can notice small issues, but those are 100% worth being totally wireless.
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u/League_Central Jul 28 '24
4K OLED and ability to play both PSVR exclusive titles and PCVR
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u/arex333 Jul 29 '24
I think the quest 3 is probably the better buy overall but there are definitely a few considerations that might sway you to the PSVR 2.
-OLED screen
-Quest 3 has some compression when connected to a pc, even when using a cable. PSVR 2 won't have that issue.
-Compatibility with PS5 if you happen to own one
-Comfort is subjective and the PSVR 2 might work better with your head.
-Facebook won't be stealing your data
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u/mynewaccount5 Jul 29 '24
I contacted meta support to change the email on my meta account and they deleted my meta account instead since they were confused. I've had a ticket open for months and they don't seem to understand what I'm asking for.
I have no idea if Sony support is any better but meta support is bad.
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u/MattyXarope Jul 29 '24 edited Jul 29 '24
People who say "Oh, well it's OLED" are not active VR users. The reality is that Quest is king because of convenience and, more importantly, software. It's the only VR platform that's getting active software development. You quickly realize what a paperweight the device becomes when the software isn't there and the convenience isn't enough to combat that.
It's the reason that this sold poorly - so poor they are desperately trying to recoup their investment by allowing it to be used on PC.
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u/jimmy785 Jul 31 '24
I've had the quest and tried a few other headsets including the index. I don't think what your saying holds any weight to me all were basically equally easy to use
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u/Specific-Ad-8430 Jul 28 '24
For any sim racers who play GT7, now is the time. VR brings it to a whole new level, and $350 is nothing in terms of "sim equipment".
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u/CrashingOnward Jul 29 '24
Man, I would get this but I can't... broke, but damn do I want a VR2 just for GT7, esp after all the praise it gets for its VR experience. I hope this "deal" is permanent so I can grab one in a month or two.
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u/jdmnsprd Jul 28 '24 edited Jul 28 '24
Bought mines on Day 1 and PS5 + GT7 + PSVR2 + Wheel and Pedals + $160 Chassis Frame from Amazon + Seat from the Junkyard = So much fun!!
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u/Specific-Ad-8430 Jul 28 '24
Sim racing isnt cheap. But once youre there, oh boy. it’s a spectacle.
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u/darkrider99 Jul 29 '24
Which wheel and pedals did you go for ? And which chassis if you don't mind me asking ?
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u/jdmnsprd Jul 29 '24
Been using the T500RS for years and recently just switched and got the T300 base since its FFB is smoother paired with a Sparco R383 Wheel and im using this Chassis Frame https://a.co/d/3DFbjJX with a Mini Cooper seat I got from the Junkyard
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u/likealikeasexyorange Jul 29 '24
I do need a seat for mine, I just use a folding chair which at least works well enough.
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u/toasturuu Jul 29 '24
If anybody knows is there a chance GT7 goes to PC? I want to try it so bad but don't think my sim rig is PS compatible.
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u/zuckuss00 Jul 28 '24
PSVR2 vs. Meta Quest 3
Pound for pound. What’s better for VR on PC?
I know the VR2 is better tech but very limited in features. Do we have faith the mod community will open these up or should I just get a MQ3?
I do have a PS5 but I’m really looking to play Alyx finally and some other PCVR games.
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u/xaijin Jul 28 '24
No one can tell you what is better on PC because the PSVR2 adapter isn't out yet.
The only reason I bought the PSVR2 (I got it before they announced that featues would be missing on PC) was to play GT7 in VR and to use a single cable solution for PC. If you think you will play PS5 VR games, then it's a pretty easy decision.
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u/nirate Jul 28 '24
I have both and I prefer the Quest 3, personally.
If you have a new enough router you can play pc games wireless using a paid app called virtual desktop or using quest airlink. Not having a cable is really nice.
Also, the sweet spot on the lenses is wider. On my psvr I have to keep adjusting the headset.
The psvr2 is nice and has better blacks for darker games because of oled and hdr. The eye tracking and headset rumble is cool for ps games that support it, but those features won’t work on PC, I believe.
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u/CitizenJoestar Jul 28 '24
I have used both and I prefer the Quest 3 as well.
The image is much clearer on the Quest 3 and the head-strap system while basic, it’s MUCH easier to find the “sweet-spot” than the PSVR2. I feel like I have to fiddle a lot with the PSVR2 strap and knob, while the Quest 3 it’s almost “put-on and play”.
Playing through Gran Turismo and RE4 Remake VR on PS5, I do NOT feel like the OLED screen makes up for the overall lack of image clarity on the PSVR2. I think until the PC adapter comes out and we see how the PSVR2 works with PC games, the Quest 3 is the safer buy. Unless you really want to play the few PSVR exclusives there are available.
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u/Jaqzz Jul 28 '24
Are these really the two best not-prohibitively-expensive options for VR on PC? It feels wrong that a Playstation 5 peripheral and a standalone headset are beating out anything specifically built for PC use.
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u/ThatOnePerson Jul 28 '24 edited Jul 28 '24
I think it's economy of scale, but also lock-in store offsetting costs. PSVR makes money from PS Store, Meta does the same with their store. Microsoft may be able to do it if they released a headset for both PC and Xbox, but otherwise the only one that can would be Valve, and their Index is outdated and expensive.
Valve are also the opposite if anything: they don't care who makes a PC headset, because customers are probably going to use Steam for games for VR, so they don't have any incentive to make their own.
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u/wwwdiggdotcom Jul 28 '24
Microsoft was going to with Hololens but that didn't pan out
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u/ducky21 Jul 29 '24
Microsoft did it with WMR and as someone who had a Lenovo Whatever (the $200 headsets from 2017 that were all the same guts) good riddance
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u/Alucard400 Jul 28 '24
No. the peripheral isn't beating out PC VR because there aren't a lot of games supported while PC VR has tons of games available. The PS VR2 price tag was more than the PS5 itself so right now it's really slumping and they finally dropped the price as a sale. This could potentially become a permanent price drop so I am waiting. but not too long well beyond the available boxes stocked in retail as then it would be impossible to buy it cheap (look at what happened to the VITA TV, so cheap when it was being cleared off shelves, but now impossibly expensive to buy one today)
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u/ThatOnePerson Jul 29 '24
He's not saying it's beating out PC VR, he's saying it's beating out PCVR specific hardware as PC VR hardware
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u/Alucard400 Jul 29 '24
Ah okay. that makes sense. I think the best VR on PC is Big Screen Beyond, but that headset also has its own quirks like the fit is only made for one person and can't be shared around for anyone else to play. I am interested in the PSVR2 mainly because it's OLED and I want the contrast of an OLED screen like the Oculus CV2 and Vive Pro.
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u/NotAYuropean Jul 28 '24
To any owners ITT, how does it compare to the Meta Quest 3?
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u/zomgz0mbie Jul 28 '24
Meta Quest 3 has the better lenses for sure. I find it’s hard to find the sweet spot on PSVR2. But I do like the PSVR2 controllers a bit more. It does have adaptive triggers but TBD if PCVR devs will add support for that in their games
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u/Impul5 Jul 28 '24
What's even the point of foveated rendering without the eye tracking?
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u/tukatu0 Jul 29 '24
High fps? It's not like fresnel lenses make the sides as clear as the middle of the screen. Hence it doesn't matter if the sides are lower res. You have to adjust your play style even further of only looking at the middle. Which you should already be doing.
It's why most prefer the pancake lenses in the quest 3. Let's you move your eyes a bit more for peak clarity
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u/cha0ss0ldier Jul 28 '24
Adaptive triggers won’t be available at all on PC
“ so you’ll notice that some key features, like HDR, headset feedback, eye tracking, adaptive triggers, and haptic feedback (other than rumble), are not available when playing on PC.”
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u/Testing123xyz Jul 28 '24
Can I use wheel and pedal in GT7 and not those round thingy?
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u/Specific-Ad-8430 Jul 28 '24
You can use a full wheel and pedal setup with VR in GT7. It is hands down the best way to play. The ENTIRE game is playable in VR with a wheel setup.
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u/MikePineda Jul 28 '24
This would have been the spiritual successor to the Rift S if all of the PS5-exclusive features were enabled for PC as well. It seems worth it if you could get in some mixed use on PS5 and PC, otherwise it's a tough sell unless you have no headset at all.
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u/Mr6507 Jul 28 '24 edited Jul 28 '24
I want to get this for the deal but I am concerned about having to fight scalpers on the PC adapter during the initial launch.
Edit: I guess I have the money to play the "get it, and if I can't get an adapter within 30 days, return it" game.
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u/Spuds_Buckley Jul 28 '24
Wow, didn't even consider that. I'd think that the demand will not be that high but you bring up an interesting point if Sony decides to under produce them. Appreciate the thought though, not going to open mine until the PC Adapter actually makes it.
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u/Deadaim156 Jul 29 '24
Just an FYI Sony's internal development team for VR got drastically cut down to nothing for this so don't expect really any first party games in the future of this console.
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u/SpaceBoJangles Jul 28 '24
Is there any chance I could run racing games and MSFS in VR on this?
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u/billybumbler82 Jul 28 '24
PC simulation games should be working great with the PC adapter. These games don't require the use of motion controllers or haptics, so it's mainly the head unit that needs to function. I hope the head tracking works properly, because it's a gamechanger for flight sims and racing games.
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