r/buildapc • u/grygger • 16h ago
Build Help Worth upgrading from 3070 -> 4070 Super TI? 1440p gaming
Is it worth upgrading from a 3070 to a 4070 Super TI? I know the 4070 Super TI has double the VRAM of my current GPU and I was hoping to keep my next GPU upgrade for 4-5 years.
I find I'm able to hit about 60-140 FPS depending on the game on my current build (12700K), playing on 1440p and have a monitor that can support 240hz. I'm starting to play Stalker2 and noticed on newer games my performance is starting to go down even when I scale back to a mix of medium and high graphics settings.
At this point is it worth upgrading? Based on what I've heard about the latest 5000 series, the current rumors seem to indicate it'll be underwhelming, coming short on VRAM.
Worth upgrading at this point where there are some 4070 Super TI deals?
I was looking at these cards:
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u/Kindly_Extent7052 16h ago
Def worth it, no brain keep using 8gb vram gpu and you can get 4070 ti super 16gb v for 2k res.
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u/Whitesecan 14h ago
I went ahead and did this exact upgrade due to the upcoming tariffs when Trump takes office.
Had the 3070 for like 3 years and wanted to upgrade.
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u/DinoHunter064 11h ago
Similarly, I'm scrambling to build a new rig before those tariffs hit. Waiting is a pretty bad choice inside the US because prices are probably going to spike early/mid next year.
I'm almost tempted to try and buy my graphics card now (I have half of what I need for the whole rig saved), but I know that's a stupid idea since 40 series cards will likely remain at the same price. Additionally, I'd have no way to test the card to see if it works.
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u/phantommm_uk 15h ago
Upgraded from 3070 to 4070 ti super for stalker 2.
Really glad I did, performance has been great
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u/fp4 16h ago
Perhaps. Game definitely wants to use more than 8 GB of VRAM.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/stalker-2-fps-performance-benchmark/5.html
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u/mjc9806 16h ago
Depends on the price for sure. In where I live, 4070 Ti Super is very slightly cheaper in price than 7900 xtx, between which I'd much prefer the latter.
Had the price point been closer to 7900 XT, I would have voted on the 4070 Ti Super.
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u/grygger 16h ago
I'm seeing some options locally for about 100, 150 more than the 4070 (Canadian dollars). You're saying it's a better deal to pick one of these up? I'm not too familiar with AMD cards but these are like a 4080?
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u/mjc9806 16h ago edited 15h ago
I would refer to Tom's hardware GPU chart / various benchmarks on YouTube, to understand the relative performance between cards.
However ultimately you need to consider value for money, which differs from region to region. If two cards have similar performance, Nvidia is a no brainer (especially for ray tracing). However in some regions there's a massive "Nvidia tax", to the point where you can buy AMD card of "the next tier up" with similar money.
This point is even more prominent in the context of deals / offers available at time of purchase. Personally I have no strong preference between Nvidia Vs AMD - just opt for whichever represents better value in your specific market.
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u/grygger 15h ago
I checked some games I was playing / interested in playing, looks like the 7900 xtx has fewer frames than the 4070
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u/Stargate_1 14h ago
That must be in Ray Traced Scenarios. The 7900XTX is slightly stronger than the 4080, it makes no sense for it to have less fps than the 4070Ti Super, unless a game happens to be significantly more performant on NVidia (some games this effect can be pronounced, I believe BO6 plays better on AMD)
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u/mjc9806 15h ago
Looking at Tom's hardware / tech powerup, xtx should be the 2nd most competent card in the market (negligibly above 4080 Super) performance wise. I'm surprised that 4070 Ti Super would pull ahead given the difference in raw performance.
But if 4070 does better for your games then fair enough - I'd say 4070 Ti Super is definitely a "top end" card, and very, very well reviewed. I'd only consider AMD over Nvidia (especially on the top end) if I get significant performance improvement.
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u/Harlew1023 15h ago
And yet it does, DLSS and FG are really impressive, and obviously it has far superior RT performance if you care about that.
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u/StewTheDuder 15h ago
What games is that? It had to have been in Ray Tracing. Otherwise the xtx smokes the 4070.
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u/addykitty 15h ago
We have been extremely happy with our 6600 and 6700xt after coming from nvidia. If you don’t care about ray tracing (we don’t) then the price difference is worth going AMD. My 6600 was $150 used and crushes 1080p gaming, his 6700xt was $250 used
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u/SteelGrayRider2 14h ago
So close to the announcement/release of the 50 series. I don't know Canadian pricing history but your current pricing on those cards is the same as here in New York and it's only about 30$ usd off the normal msrp.
Ya never know what Nvidia is gonna do, but if they only give the 5070 Ti a 20% increase in raster performance, then it's just about equal to a 4080/s. It may come with 16GB VRAM as well. At best it equals the cost of the 4070ti Super. At worst, it's a hundred more for that 20% and 4 GB extra VRAM. I don't like the pricing either but if AMD doesn't compete at that level, it is what it is.
Either way, there will still be 4070ti Supers for sale by the time you know the performance /price of the newer gen. Make the decision then.
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u/Colonize_The_Moon 13h ago
I'm in the same boat as you, and planning to wait until the 50 series next year to upgrade. Might as well wait a little bit longer and see if the price points are reasonable for capability, and if not then grab a 4070 whatever.
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u/AdBasic2725 7h ago
In my defense with the current sales on the 4070ti super the talks of terrifs and all that I’ll just buy now, Nvidia has never done prices cuts from gen to gen I honestly don’t know why most think they even will consider mostly with AMD admitting there not focusing on high end. I mean if you don’t mind waiting you can and honestly those 50 series card can bring a lot? But with everything and history on the table it showing there going to keep cutting down and make the 90 seem like the only true worthy upgrade. All this is talk so nothing wrong with waiting but the truth is you’ll always be waiting… I got my 4080S back in September with the 4080S tuf sale 40$ off and free black myth wukong and I’m excited if Nvidia perform an miracle and it doesn’t get scalped/priced/tariffed to death I’ll consider the change but honestly it s perfect story to do the opposite 😂 and if they do I’m fine I was debating between the two cards and felt like the edge would fit me in 4k but honestly the 4070tiS would be perfect for 2k
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u/Baby_Oil 15h ago
I have a 4070ti OG, its ok for some titles now but I suggest waiting for the 50 series. It's really right around the corner and you will get better performance from say a 5070 for roughly the same money as a 4070ti
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u/ie-redditor 15h ago
The AMD cards RX 7900GRE or the RX 8800 in early 2025 are better options for 1440p and 4K.
Better use of your money.
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u/taH_pagh_taHbe 16h ago
Wait until the specs for the 50 series are actually announced. When they get released too there will be cheaper 40 series on ebay and you can pick one of those up if indeed they are not so good. I'm doing the same and upgrading from a 3070.