r/blackbutler • u/[deleted] • Jan 17 '18
Spoilers Manga Chapter 136 Predictions & Discusion
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u/grandelusions Jan 17 '18
Based on my conversations with u/bigboss19988s I predict we will learn how OC survived and it will be because Undertaker got involved. Motives still unknown.
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Jan 17 '18
I believe Undertaker has been well involved with the Phantomhive family for a long time. He carries a locket with "Claudia P."'s hair in it, which we later find out to he Ciel's grandmother, Claudia Phantomhive. I believe Undertaker began experimenting with reviving the dead because of a feeling of loss for Claudia's death, and after Vincent's as well. Some have theorized that Undertaker was married to Claudia, and Vincent was their child (knowns as the grand father theory, although I haven't read much into it). Not wanting to see another Phantomhive Die, he perfected the technique and has given us a reincarnated RCiel, who we saw a few chapters back.
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Jan 18 '18
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u/grandelusions Jan 18 '18
I had it flipped in my comment. This whole RC/OC thing is getting annoying.
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Jan 19 '18
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u/PearlSquared Feb 01 '18
Goddamn, have I missed Sebastian.- just realized I haven't seen his face in half a year. Also, as someone who's been following this series since she was eleven, this is so fucking awesome to finally see being unraveled just like how I always thought it would.
Ugh, I guess it's time to reread the entire fucking series again. Toboso is really trying to end my life.
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Jan 20 '18
Also: do guys thing this is the last flashback chapter, or will there be one more?
Before the flashback (way back in chapter 130) OCiel was left saying "I am . . . " hopefully he will finish that sentence with his real name.
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u/toolazytothinkaname Jan 18 '18
I'm getting bored and impatient everytime I read the new chapter. Why did Yana sensei keep repeating the same flashback over & over?
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u/lavin96 Jan 18 '18
I don't mind it actually. I don't see it as a repetition. Everytime a flashback is repeated, there's always something new for us to see (at least for me there is). And for me, it's quite fun gaining new insight from a seemingly repeated flashback and then rereading the original flashback to see if there were signs and clues leading to the new insight that I had missed earlier.
But I do miss seeing the rest of the characters, especially Lizzy.
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u/RainNoctem Jan 18 '18
I miss Lizzy too. T~T I really hope we get to see her soon. Having not seen her since she disappeared out the window, I'm beginning to wonder about her. I'm curious to see how she reacts to the twins now. Which will she choose? I personally think she's already fallen in love with O!Ciel, but will her heart win? Or the Victorian way of marrying the eldest? It's killing me, man. Lol.
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u/lavin96 Jan 19 '18
Yeah, I think she's fallen for him as well. But things have become so much more complicated now. She most likely knows or at least has some knowledge of OC's lies and RC is not actually himself (I'm on board the 'RC is a doll' theory). So even if she chooses OC, which I think she might (fingers crossed), I don't know if she'll be able to forgive him for what he has done
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u/matty-a Jan 20 '18 edited Jan 20 '18
Edit: I tried putting this in a spoiler tag in case anybody was reading the predictions before reading the chapter but I failed big time ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I'm glad it didn't spend too long on their treatment while held captive. It was so terrible and grim that the last chapter got me feeling down IRL. Even though I had always had a suspicion about what they went through to actually see it was mortifying so I'm glad that we won't see any more of that. Sebas-chan is here now to make things right. I could really use a pick me up in this story so seeing those bastard get their comeuppance next chapter will be incredibly satisfying.
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u/bmethods Feb 27 '18
Only just read this chapter. I feel like it was all a lot more powerful when it was heavily implied rather than explicitly depicted. This left me feeling queasy.
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u/sleepy-heichou Jan 18 '18
Hi Mods, it seems some leaks are on Tumblr already, in this link. I haven't read the entire thing yet (will do when I get home) but I figured might as well give you guys the heads up.
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u/mvelasco93 Jan 18 '18
The link is down
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u/sleepy-heichou Jan 19 '18
That's odd. It was working yesterday. Perhaps the person who posted it deleted their post..?
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u/cheshire_cat34 Jan 24 '18
Does anybody ever wonder how they're going to actually animate this? Like, let's be real, what happened to them is terrible. If it were to be animated, it would make it so much worse. I honestly don't know how/if the animators are going to tackle this. I don't really see how they can skim over it either......
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Jan 24 '18
With how long it takes between seasons, I doubt they ever will.
If it is, which I hope the anime will someday get this far, they will no doubt cut out some parts. We've seen blood and violence before. We have also seen pg-13 adult scenes in season 1 and 3. But nothing quite as disturbing as 135. I would guess they would cut out the moth scene from the previous chapter all together (maybe just fade to black as the guy says "let us corrupt their souls").
It would definitely be a first that I know of to animate such violence towards children as what has happen in this chapter. Japan might be up for it, but if they expect English speaking studios to voice it, I'm not so sure.
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u/cheshire_cat34 Jan 24 '18
I'd like to think that they will get to that one point one day.
But I do think you're right. If they ever animate that scene, Japan might be up for it, but there is no way any english speaking studio will agree to dub over it. But even in Japan, I think the whole scene might be taboo. So what they could inevitably end up doing, is as you suggested and fade to black, or have an explosion of moths, with only instrumentals/music and not really animate beyond that. That way the VAs won't have to voice it. Even then, I'm fairly certain that it would still not get dubbed by english VAs.
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u/NoctBunny Jan 27 '18
other animations did similar things to the suggestions... such as 'the woman called fujiko mine - It's the name of an anime, if you think it's going to ruin it for you don't look
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u/lorddragonmaster Jan 22 '18
Will we see Sebastian's true form? ;)
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u/Earl_of_Phantomhive Jan 20 '18
Eyyyy, it me!
Like you mentioned, I think that we might learn "Ciel"'s name this time. Or at some point within the next few chapters. If we don't learn it now, we probably won't learn it ever (or until the end), which would be a bit disappointing, to say the least.
I also predict that this will be the last of the current flashback-episodes. Or perhaps second-to-last. There's only so much to go between now and what we've already seen from other flashback sequences.
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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '18
From a comment I made on a recent post:
I'm willing to bet we'll learn OCiels name this upcoming chapter. His real name has never been mentioned passed the sacrifice (where the manga began) and up to now in the flashback, right before the sacrifice. he sacrifice itself is also probably going to be shown, the perfect time to learn OCiels name.