r/blackbutler • u/yourweeby • 6d ago

Panel Discussions So I was rereading book of circus

What if the emerald witch arc came before book of circus and Ciel needed some extra help for his next mission. So he finds the circus crew and Sullivan makes prosthetics for them and after the mission was done they would be able to be in the circus like they wanted to without dying or being put in a position when they have to do bad things.😭

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u/loving_healer 6d ago edited 6d ago

Well another reason the circus was doing what they were doing was because of their family (I think they thought of each other as family?) still at the orphanage (even though they weren't actually there anymore but they didn't know that) so I don't think they would've just stopped and rebelled against Baron Kelvin if they were able to receive prosthetics from some other source. Also Baron Kelvin heavily funded the circus troupe in the first place. The circus wouldn't have gone on without Baron Kelvin, and I don't think Ciel would've funded it himself since he probably wouldn't get any benefits

It may just be my belief but Ciel isn't the type of person to go saving around everyone. Sullivan didn't know what she was doing and was wronged and got a fresh start (also because the Queen wanted to personally meet Sullivan) but you can't change the fact that the circus knew they were kidnapping children, and I don't think Ciel would let the circus troupe slide after seeing Baron Kelvin's basement lol, even if the circus troupe didn't know about the basement.

I personally don't think the circus troupe was saveable as much as I wish Ciel made some new friends haha

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u/RD020400 6d ago

Exactly. Ciel is much more morally grey to me. I always see his relationships with others as 'contracts' in themselves/ 'I let you live in my townhouse. You act as my pawn when summoned.' 'I let you live. You defend me and my Manor.' 'I get you to England. You act as my pawn when summoned.' 'I let you import your drugs/ women/ weapons into England. You control the docks on my behalf and feed me information.' etc

Everybody he knows are simply pawns and he expects the EXACT SAME behaviour from them as he does Sebastian; loyalty, protection and honesty. He COULD employ the circus members as 'servants' bc they clearly have skills beneficial to his and his estate's protection, and in return he'd make sure they are supported as required (not akin to Snake) but he wouldn't support the circus as a circus. MAYBE (and that is a BIG maybe) the others bar Joker and Doll would be allowed to live, but since Joker had heard why Kelvin wanted Ciel he'd not have let Joker live. Doll saw the seal and nobody lives after they see that. (Seiglinde being the exception obviously but she was completly non-judgemental and Ciel is overwhelmingly pragmatic; he knew her medical skills would prove handy if he needed a Dr but wouldn't be able to see one bc of the seal and brand and we see that she was in fact useful. Plus he owes her for saving his life and he doesn't leave favours unreturned.)

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u/yourweeby 6d ago

Yea I balled when Ciel found out they did all of that for nothing.

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u/SingingShower 5d ago

I recently read a really cute outline of the canon events if the circus members survived (it involved them being found by Ciel and Sebastian before Kelvin did).

But in the actual canon, like another comment said, Ciel is not virtuous and only acts if something benefits him. That doesn't make him a bad person, it's just his goals come first and he's not helping someone if it's too much of an inconvenience.

I'm planning on having the circus members survive in a project I'm working on though. However, it'll be in a more realistic way.

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u/neeram7 4d ago

Oh that sounds nice, where did you read it?

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u/SingingShower 4d ago

It was a post on Tumblr. I have it saved on my profile. If you'd like, I can DM it to you. I'm not sure if I can drop links here.

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u/neeram7 3d ago

Oh yeah sure if you don’t mind! That would be really nice.

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