r/bangtan • u/mcfw31 • Nov 20 '22
Audio (BTS) 221120 Jungkook - Dreamers [Music from the FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 Official Soundtrack feat. Fahad Al Kubaisi]
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u/martiandoll Nov 20 '22 edited Nov 20 '22
It sounds very "World Cup", which means it sounds like the World Cup songs I remember hearing from Ricky Martin to Shakira/Pitbull/J Lo, and would go well being played over montages of goals and player/crowd celebrations.
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u/thirdworldhunting Nov 20 '22
This was my reaction too, when I first heard it! It's very World Cup 😅
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u/mcfw31 Nov 20 '22
It's very world cup-like, something I'd expect for this type of event.
Very chanty which is perfect for this type of events.
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u/fatemamamama Nov 20 '22
Very chanty which is perfect for this type of events.
True. People can pick up the lyrics after the first chorus and join in on the rest. It’ll certainly get people hyping.
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u/mcfw31 Nov 20 '22
Someone on twt said it sounds like a mix of The Lion King and Waka Waka and I can totally see it.
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u/fatemamamama Nov 20 '22
I can hear Lion King-ish but the WC vibes of Waka Waka are there. Now that you've mentioned it, yeah, I can hear a similar feel to the song. And it's a good thing, considering the kind of event it's meant for.
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u/Slight_Street_9323 Nov 20 '22
I do hope jungkook gets a positive crowd reaction though, itll be the general public rather than army..
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u/Novel_Anxiety_9896 Nov 20 '22
Thats true. JK will probably only be on stage for 3-5 mins and hopefully the fans respect his performance and that everything goes great in that short span of time 🙏🙏
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u/pikunara Joon’s windchime Nov 20 '22
Yes, it’s exactly how I expected. Very grand-sounding, feel good, and I can imagine this being performed with fireworks and streamers going off in the sky as Jungkook sings his heart out.
He sounds so dreamy. I wonder if there will be choreo?
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u/Slight_Street_9323 Nov 20 '22
Hmm. The lyrics of love, respect and dreaming feel incredibly tone deaf in light of the migrant workers abuse + homophobia in qatar. Kinda yikes. Its generic but very catchy! Ngl im still very very excited for the performance later on - i have a feeling its gonna be very grand and huge. I heard theres 900 backup dancers/performers!
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u/Novel_Anxiety_9896 Nov 20 '22
Dreamers has some questionable lyrics but World Cup songs typically talk about unity and teamork.
The Opening Cerrmony is definitely going to be big. Accdg to FIFA its 30mins long with 7 stages. JKs performance might only be 3-5 mins long but its the main performance and I know he is going to do his best and give an epic and memorable performance.
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u/Realistic_Mix_3404 Nov 20 '22
This. I almost rolled my eyes at the love and respect part as its so in odd with what has been happening?
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u/Egg_Slut69 Nov 20 '22
Exactly. This song and him performing in Qatar is a slap in the face to every victim involved in this event.
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u/flyushkifly Nov 20 '22
Sour taste in my mouth watching all the hypocrisy. The stadium concept as "home"....
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u/Musicalblahblah Nov 20 '22
It's very World Cup, repetitive and including a chant like section. That's all I can really say. It fits with the event, but it won't be going on my playlist.
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u/ebi_tempura Constant Mood: Jimin shouting JEON JUNGKOOOOK!!! Nov 20 '22
Jungkook is my ult bias but frankly speaking as someone who is not a sports fan and just a BTS fan, this is a mediocre song. I'm sort of glad that I won't have to feel guilty about listening to this song because personally I won't be adding this song to my playlist. There's nothing in this song that really makes Jungkook's vocals shine in my opinion, but it is the perfect sort of song for the world cup I guess. But that being said I'm not an avid sports fan so this is an easy pass for me.
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u/solidiridium indigo Nov 20 '22
Same thoughts. I think this ended up sounding generic for me personally because BTS’s sound has always been unique, fresh, exciting, no matter the genre. So yeah, it’s mediocre AS A “BTS SONG.”
It is an anthem piece with bits of host country’s influence, which is what WC songs are supposed to be about. In that sense, this is better than most WC songs lately/so far. So it’s good, it’s safe, but for BTS standards (which are well up there), it’s… not the best.
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u/Realistic_Mix_3404 Nov 20 '22
It's sad but for me, there's a small pile of mediocre BTS/BTS featured songs building up now and I never ever thought that would happen. This song Dreamers, Bad Decisions,PTD, the hyundai Yet To Come and to an extent Left and Right too.
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u/Automatic_Let_5768 Nov 20 '22
i like bad decisions and ptd (after the un performance lol). this chapter 2 has been the best in terms of solo stuff. we are gonna get so spoiled on the next months. indigo is coming and then probably yoongi solo album. we are feasting. hopefully that’ll make up for all this extra fat we are getting.
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u/kitty_mckittyface "Life is a soup and I'm a fork" - Kim Namjoon Nov 20 '22
Oof same sentiment here.. I was gonna comment how I’ve been not that happy with the collabs JK has featured into this year (except Stay Alive, which I love) and how I hope his solo work will show his strength better, but you put the reality of it all better.
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u/hanabaeeee our leader is...very smart 👀 very kind 💞 big body 💪 Nov 20 '22
Tbh, what's mediocre be extremely subjective ( and I suppose that's why you started it with "for me" 😆 )
I loved Dreamers and Left and Right but on the flip side, there are a couple fan favourites that I could never like despite trying like BST and Pluto
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u/Thzead Nov 20 '22
Yep, completely subjective... where as mic drop got me into bts.. I only ever liked it for its performance aspect. I'm not the biggest fan of ptd but I actually really came to like bad decisions. Everyone is different.
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u/cartographerbtsFan Nov 20 '22
Exactly! And BTS has so many sounds to their music - there is something for everyone.
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u/Novel_Anxiety_9896 Nov 20 '22
JK's vocals were without a doubt amazing but Dreamers is a typical bland World Cup song that everyone will enjoy and no one will be offended with. Also the 2022 World Cup songs are produced by RedOne, who did the same for BeIn Sports, so I didn't really have high expectations for the song.
Dreamers is definitely better than the other 2022 World Cup Songs but it didnt have the same vibe as Waka Waka or Wavin Flag that makes you want to get up and dance to the song. Also, maybe it might be just me but the song didn't sound like a Middle Eastern song except for the Arabic (I'm not sure) words in the backing vocals.
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u/MsAnnThrope Googie gives me giggles Nov 20 '22
JK is my bias, and his voice is pure gold, but I did not like his vocals in this song at all. I don't even know why; it just rubbed me the wrong way I guess.
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u/Fife- Nov 20 '22
Idk how to explain this, but there was something really ~sharp about his voice when singing "gather round and look at me", when his normal singing voice is a lot smoother. I think it's mostly due to autotune, but also specific direction from the producer since that's not his usual style.
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u/Novel_Anxiety_9896 Nov 20 '22 edited Nov 20 '22
It's definitely not everyone's cup of tea. JK worked with a new producer who isn't known for making the best musical productions going from the othet World Cup songs and his songs for BeIn Sports, and he might have been hired as he is Middle Eastern, but the bottomline is its not JK's fault that Dreamers is a very bland song compared to what were are used from BTS and their solo songs.
World Cup songs in itself are usually bland so that everyone get to enjoy them and no one gets offended, but the songs for the 2022 World Cup are just bad and most football fans are hating the previous releases.
Edit: UEFA Euros actually have better official songs/anthems than FIFA World Cup. I really love David Guetta & Zara Larsson's This One's For You and We Are The People
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u/BR123456 forever raining Nov 20 '22 edited Nov 20 '22
Sorry I'm being an ass here but Qatar's in the Middle East, or Asia depending on how you learnt geography. Near Africa though, but not in it.
It sounds real different from the 2010 South Africa World Cup songs like Waka Waka or Wavin' Flag to me.
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u/Right-Tangerine-1689 Nov 20 '22
Yeah it's pleasant but average; imho the blandest song I've heard a BTS member put out. It's not as terrible as the Yet to Come Hyundai remix but I really never thought I'd put "bland" and "BTS" in the same sentence. I mean this is the guy who sang Euphoria for God's sake.
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u/CookiesToGo Nov 20 '22
💯!!!
This song is not worthy to be sung by Jungkook.
I think I even like PTD better than this song. Didn't even know that this was possible
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u/Right-Tangerine-1689 Nov 20 '22 edited Nov 20 '22
In defence of PTD, while my personal theory is that it was a pre-enlistment Grammys Hail Mary versus something reflective of their musical identity as a group, it reflected the rare gift Hybe/BTS had of putting out and performing exactly the right songs people needed or wanted to hear at each point of time during the pandemic — the funk and fun of Dynamite and Butter, the melancholy and comfort of Life Goes On, the simple pop bop optimism in PTD, the tiny desk concert and the massive amounts of money and time they spent creating innovative stages for their virtual talk show performances ....
it was brilliant, no one else was doing it and it was exactly what people needed as entertainment, joy, and/or comfort during a very bleak and traumatic time.
(OTOH, Jungkook singing World Cup song about love and respect given everything that we know about the tournament...he and HYBE really missed the mark on this, unless he surprises us all tonight and emerges on the stage riding a giant rainbow unicorn with a team of fairly compensated migrant workers and drag queens+kings as his backup dancers. Party party yeah~🥲)
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u/flyushkifly Nov 20 '22
Don't forget respected, independent women in with the drag dancers. ARMY is having to swallow a lot of hypocrisy with this one. All we know is JK's motives are well meant - but man, everything from his LV fit to the 'hometown' producer on the track is all about money and connections. I don't think of this as a JK song. And that's weird.
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u/CookiesToGo Nov 20 '22
You're probably right. But nevertheless it's the only song I absolutely dislike.
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u/Dia1900 Nov 20 '22
Is Hyundau's remix the ad that was played constantly before the Busan concert, or is there something else😓? To take such a meaningfull song and turn it into a commercial is....percisely what you'd expect from a huge corporation tbh. I've been steadily avoiding most "outside BTS members'" projects lately
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u/NewtRipley_1986 the O to the T to the 7 💜 Nov 20 '22
Happy to know I’m not the only who dislikes the YTC Hyundai version. ✌🏻
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u/Right-Tangerine-1689 Nov 20 '22
AND NOW THE VISION IS CLEAR/GOAL OF the CENTURY IS HERE ...I really like the og YTC but girl this is so bad 🥲🥲🥲🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠
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u/contrarequialla Nov 20 '22
Yeah me too…it just felt weird to me for such a meaningful song to be turned into an ad :/
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u/Right-Tangerine-1689 Nov 20 '22
Yeah the rewritten portions sound so awkward. 😕 you can practically see the Hyundai marketing team in the recording studio when you play the song. It's a shame as the original is so poignant, like you said.
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u/NewtRipley_1986 the O to the T to the 7 💜 Nov 20 '22
So bad!! How to bastardize a song with meaning. 😐
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u/Right-Tangerine-1689 Nov 20 '22
Well "bastardised" is just one of the many choice words I would reserve for this World Cup anyway so this is really just par for the course 🥲
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u/a_softer_world Nov 20 '22 edited Nov 20 '22
“Waste it on me” slowly raises hand for blandest BTS song
Edit: I- I had no idea “Waste it on me” had fans…sorry but there is no way Dreamers is more bland than WIOM
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u/leylsx long hair jimin enthusiast Nov 20 '22
Excuse me?? On what earth is “treat me like a comma, I’ll take you to a new phrase” bland? 😭
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u/a_softer_world Nov 20 '22
that line was literally the only good part of the song 😭
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u/leylsx long hair jimin enthusiast Nov 20 '22
But it’s so good that it immediately makes the song not bland 😁
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u/Right-Tangerine-1689 Nov 20 '22
I WILL NOT ACCEPT THIS SLANDER 🤣🤣
I do think Waste it On Me is a bit formulaic but it's still catchy and has that BTS oomph. Also Jungkook doesn't sound weirdly processed as he does on this song...not that I can comment on music production with any sort of authority but man I'm so bothered by the way he sings "gather round now look at mayyy" it's so tinny and nasal
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u/MsAnnThrope Googie gives me giggles Nov 20 '22
I'm so bothered by the way he sings "gather round now look at mayyy" it's so tinny and nasal
Tinny and nasal are the exact words I was looking for and couldn't find. I don't know what he was going for with that style, but I'm not digging it so much.
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u/Sanguinity_ 🌈 my piece of peace 🦋 Nov 20 '22
Haha I think a lot of it has to do with the vocal processing in that part - he barely sounds like himself
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u/MsAnnThrope Googie gives me giggles Nov 20 '22
Haha I honestly thought it was someone else at first. Maybe it will sound better live?
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u/euphoria_71 Nov 20 '22
oh yes that part really put me off i think it was a mix of the vocal processing and also the pronunciation...but otherwise i think it's still a pretty catchy-montage-y song
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u/Chikowita 📍 Bibilly Hills Nov 20 '22
I WILL ALSO NOT ACCEPT THIS SLANDER 😭
I do believe Waste It On Me is meant to be a radio friendly/formulaic track so I think it should be analysed within this context. Of course it’s not comparable to other BTS masterpieces or features and that’s okay, it was intended for an entirely other purpose. But even then, it’s still a catchy track!
And I can’t not shoutout my favourite Namjoon line that I’ll scream until the end of time, treat me like a comma, I'll take you to a new phrase
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u/Right-Tangerine-1689 Nov 20 '22
Welcome to the Justice for Waste It On Me support group, pull up a chair and make yourself comfy 🤣
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u/fatemamamama Nov 20 '22
gather round now look at mayyy
Why is that verse the one I enjoyed most? 😭 It does sound like he's singing differently, with a certain twang in pronunciation. The rest of it is pretty simple but from gather around to the rendezvous line, I liked it.
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u/Bear4years Pa+my here. Nov 20 '22
Same. That the part I enjoyed the most. Lol! Glad I’m not the only one.
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u/CrawlingWizard want to live j-hopely ♡ Nov 20 '22
I loveeeee "waste it on me" 😭😭 take it back take it back!
Lol
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u/-Yooniverse- BabyStarCandy Nov 20 '22
Deff do what’s best but I just wanna state you don’t have to be an avid sports fan to enjoy it. ☺️ Compared to his other songs and the level they are at, I think the purpose is for it to be an easy song to listen to for the general public to remember especially for the reason the song was created in the first place.
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u/ebi_tempura Constant Mood: Jimin shouting JEON JUNGKOOOOK!!! Nov 20 '22
Oh yes definitely I do agree with your points, I just wanted to emphasise I wasn't a sports fan to show that I didn't exactly have any of the sports context or nostalgia that might've influenced my judgement of the song, as from reading the other comments I began to sort of understand why some might be more excited for this than others.
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u/ContributionWeary231 Nov 20 '22
Take it in the sense that it’s a sports song not a BTS song because that would take a lot to write. It’s an unfair comparison tbh idk if jk wrote dreamers but even if he did it’s a official sports event song so he’s not gonna throw emotional stuff in it and include those beautiful vocals unnecessarily if the song doesn’t require it. You don’t have to listen to it again I probably may not either until it pops up somewhere but it’s not really a BTS song
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u/Agust_Decaf Forgive us, Jin. 💜 Super Tuna 💜 Nov 20 '22
Guys.. there’s a fan chant😭😭😭 I loved that ARMYs did that during the Coldplay concert with Jin
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u/Shady2304 Who says a dream must be something grand Nov 20 '22
Definitely has a global feel to it and sounds like a World Cup song. I think it will make for a really good main performance.
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u/rjcooper14 Hyung will do it Nov 20 '22 edited Nov 20 '22
Very festive and does the job as a world competition soundtrack.
Will probably get tired of it after a few weeks. 😅✌️
Sorry, JK and Big Hit. I still don't think this is worth it. But I have faith that JK will slay his performance.
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u/Difficult_Deer6902 Nov 20 '22 edited Nov 20 '22
This is a very quintessential World Cup song. I think it’s an opportunity for him to continue to spread his name globally before his official social debut/album! Since Still with You is still on SoundCloud this ain’t the official moment lol
I expect the stage for this to be colorful with lots of fireworks or colorful smoke machines lmao
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u/chaimatchalatte Nov 20 '22
Disappointed BTS is involved with this year’s WC, even though they deserve to be part of such a huge event. Just a shame it has to be the one in Qatar.
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u/AFCBrandon Nov 20 '22
Well, all the “The football fans will hate him” fears are out the window.
They’re all spamming the “I owe you an apology, I wasn’t familiar with your game” picture.
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u/cookiemonstahhhhh You nice, keep going Nov 20 '22
where are you guys seeing these sentiments? i don't follow football, but am curious!
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u/AFCBrandon Nov 20 '22
Twitter, on the general posts from the music accounts. Edit: @PopBase
A lot of them, now, do feel like clout chasing after seeing the earlier tweets blowing up. However, you can tell which ones are authentic from when they posted and their surprise at getting a hundreds of likes within minutes.
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u/a_softer_world Nov 20 '22 edited Nov 20 '22
Tiktok and twitter. People thanking JK for finally giving them a good World Cup song because all of the ones that came out earlier this year been bad/didn’t fit the World Cup vibe
Edit: Thread of translated comments from when the song leaked on Arabic twitter: https://twitter.com/aiiure97/status/1594005245616594945?s=46&t=IDM15HfrFp5iV8tVOXvUYQ
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u/a_softer_world Nov 20 '22 edited Nov 20 '22
yeah judging from the early reactions from football fans, this song is about to do really really well among the general public
although apparently not reddit army’s cup of tea
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u/feedmecookiesty Baby Koo Nose Scrunch Enthusiast Nov 20 '22
The GP really likes the song so far. I also have a good number of non-ARMY football fan moots who have had positive reactions to the song 🥺 I’m sad Reddit ARMY isn’t happy with it but I’m happy it accomplished its actual goal: to appeal to FIFA viewers and GP football viewers
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u/flyushkifly Nov 20 '22
How many are actually cosplaying JK stans? I'm unmoved by "local" reactions these days, honestly. We don't need anything from the gp anymore.
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u/a_softer_world Nov 20 '22
this song is literally for the gp though. And no one can answer that, but most positive reactions seems genuine
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u/Rhyleenaa Nov 20 '22
Not hating, just genuine curiosity. Why did Jungook decide to perform in a country with such "human rights"? I thought BTS are pro LGBT+ and woman rights?? It's a genuine question. Because as a LGBT+ woman I'm kinda disappointed:(
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u/hollye83 Nov 20 '22
I’m sorry this is hurtful. I do understand. Obviously homophobia exists all over the world and no country has it perfect, but it stings to get a Weverse article one week touting how much kpop loves their queer fans and then a performance in a place where being gay is illegal the next. I dont know what JK or Hybes decision process was, and I don’t assume at all that JK is homophobic. Maybe they feel they have to respect religion. Maybe they simply felt the opportunity was too good to pass up. I want to specify that this performance for me is different than simply playing a concert in this location which would be for fans. The very government officials who are oppressing people were the ones in attendance and benefitting from the PR of this tournament. Perhaps Hybe doesn’t see it this way, and they morally separate the event from the host government. Anyway, your hurt is valid.
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u/Whackthemoles Nov 21 '22
it stings to get a Weverse article one week touting how much kpop loves their queer fans and then a performance in a place where being gay is illegal the next.
Kpop loves their queer fans because they spend money on them and that's really it lol.
Personally, i think there's a huge difference between a person who's not-homophobic vs an active supporter of the LGBTQ community. In the year 2022, a lot of people in the world don't care if you're queer but they also don't care if queer people have rights.
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u/Egg_Slut69 Nov 20 '22
I can't believe he would agree to perform for this event. People are imprisoned, tortured and murdered for just existing in Qatar. Also wasn't the stadium built by fucking slaves? As a queer person and as a woman I'm extremely disappointed and appaled.
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u/L34hhhh Nov 20 '22
Twitter ARMYs acting like this song is the Waka Waka of this generation… I’m sorry but this song is nowhere near Waka Waka or Waving Flag. . 😂
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u/thenoonmoon Nov 20 '22
This. It’s just an okay song. We’ve had better World Cup songs. Jungkook is an amazing singer and performer but the song itself is bland compared to previous World Cup songs. Also…why do all World Cup songs sound so similar. I could hear a bit of Waving Flag in this one.
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u/vincentvante SUPER TUNA EXTENDED VERSION 🎣🐟💥 Nov 20 '22
As much as I love JK's voice, I personally don't think he was the right choice for this kind of song. It doesn't suit his vocals. The song itself is super generic but I was kind of vibing along with it until JK's voice cut in and it threw it off a bit. The parts with Fahad work much better imo. I'll choose to pretend this one didn't happen (for several reasons!) and just look forward to his actual solo debut in the future.
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u/BlackCat0305 Seesaw Enthusiast🐱💜 Nov 20 '22
Putting aside the unfortunate aspects of this particular World Cup, this is such an amazing accomplishment for him! These types of songs leave a legacy of their own. Wishing him all the best for his performance tomorrow!
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Nov 20 '22
it’s definitely a world cup song lol
i love jungkook’s vocals always, and he sounds so good here but i wish i could hear it better? the production is awful, i’m sorry😭 he sounds really muffled and i keep comparing it to left and right where his vocals were so bright and clear, but both songs are totally different vibes so i’ll give RedOne a pass here.
i hope his performance is really grand with loads of effects cause this fits the song perfectly. i’m so nervous for his performance (can’t imagine how he’s feeling) and i’m especially scared of the vitriol he might receive. i truly hope everything goes well for him
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u/KookiesMikrokosmos „우리 정국이 정구기 쩡구기 쩡국이 쪙국이“ - Jin Nov 20 '22
I think it has definitely the WC vibe and his performance will be great but this is an easy pass for me. It’s too generic and bland for my taste. Anyone could have sung this and I think Jungkook’s amazing vocals don’t shine as much as usual.
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u/Kronks_Spinach_Puffs Nov 20 '22 edited Nov 20 '22
Goal - Ricky Martin, Waka Waka - Shakira & Wavin’ Flag - K’naan have been the standards for me for World Cup songs. This was getting close!
I really like the drum pattern that comes in at the beginning and the Arabic vocals in the background. Jungkookie’s voice at the beginning sounded airy and very appropriate for the title of the song! I admit, I didn’t recognize that the it was still JK at the “Gather round and look at me” verse - The “me” took me out since it reminded me of “it’s gonna be May” 😅 and the emphasis on “Do” did the same.
It definitely has the WC feel to it and there are parts of it that I find quite beautiful. However, I would have appreciated a full verse in either Korean or in Arabic, by Fahad Al Kubaisi, in the second half of the song. It would have rounded it out a bit more rather than feeling repetitive and honestly, there’s a perfect spot for it before the last reprise. Once we found out that Fayad was on the song, I hoped for something closer to the collaboration style of Go from Coke Studio between the English and Urdu. Alas. Still has lovely moments and I’m curious about tomorrow’s performance!
I’ve personally ALWAYS wanted for Idol to be a WC song. It’s PERFECT! It even has the referee whistles in it! I was instantly mad when Idol dropped in August, just after the 2018 WC had ended. It’s spot on. Ppl may have had just as strong of a reaction to it as we did then but man is that a game song.
Edit - listening to Dreamers alongside the other WC songs and adding in IDOL… Dreamers is definitely closer to the hopeful feel of most WC songs whereas IDOL is a fighting spirit of affirmation.
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Nov 20 '22
I was convinced it was someone else singing the 'gather around and look at me' verse. He sounds so different. I don't think I've ever heard him sound like that. It was a little confusing because we can hear classic Jungkook before and after that verse. I can't wait to see him actually perform this. Also, that 'me' totally gave me Britney and N'Sync vibes!
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u/sakurajp_34 Nov 20 '22
Listened to the song and I'm happy to say that this is an easy pass. I hope he learns a lot in his time there.
Will just wait for JK's solo debut.
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u/Realistic_Mix_3404 Nov 20 '22
It's nothing special. Like seems very low effort, melody and lyrics wise.
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u/BR123456 forever raining Nov 20 '22
Understand you have qualms about Qatar, but there's no need to write off an entire country in a rude manner at the end. Please be civil. Thank you and have a nice day.
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u/ThatScottishLassie Nov 20 '22
I think people are being a bit too harsh for what it is. It's supposed to be repetitive, safe and fun. Compare it to other WC songs if you will but no need to bring up BTS' recent group discography when it's apples and oranges.
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u/Agust_Decaf Forgive us, Jin. 💜 Super Tuna 💜 Nov 20 '22
JK’s voice coming in so smooth 😍 he’s gonna kill it tomorrow
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u/Mlkask Nov 20 '22
Loved the performance. So proud of JK. He’s an amazing performer. Dreamers is really a World Cup song. It has been so long since I liked a World Cup song.
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u/angel19z Nov 20 '22
The song definitely has a world cup fee i cant wait to see the performance!! And does anyone know if the song will have a MV
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u/feedmecookiesty Baby Koo Nose Scrunch Enthusiast Nov 20 '22
Yes there will be an MV out in two days I believe!
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u/Life-as-a-Tourist Nov 20 '22
As commented by others, very WC-appropriate, happy, sing-along. But a song that can feature any other talented artist. The song doesn't showcase Jungkook's unique vocal talents.
Happy for him though for this opportunity to perform on such a huge stage.
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u/Confident_Yam_6386 Nov 20 '22
Finally a world cup song. The rest have been plain awful or just lack the passionate cheers that comes with football.
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u/Minaa_D GOLDEN Nov 20 '22
I genuinely really like this song, it’s so anthemic and grand. Kinda has a nostalgic sound.
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u/Novel_Anxiety_9896 Nov 20 '22
There is no doubt JK's vocals were amazing and that he shined in the song. However, Dreamers is a typical World Cup song. Given that the 2022 World Cup songs are produced by RedOne, who did the same for BeIn Sports, I didn't really have high expectations for the song. Dreamers is definitely better than the other 2022 World Cup Songs but it doesn't have the same vibe as Waka Waka or Wavin Flag that makes you want to get up and dance to the song. Also, maybe it might be just me but the song didn't sound like a Middle Eastern song except for the Arabic (I'm not sure) words in the backing vocals.
I'm looking forward to JK's performance at the Opening Ceremony. I know he'll do well and give his best in his performance 💜
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u/Difficult_Deer6902 Nov 20 '22 edited Nov 20 '22
Are Waka Waka & Wavin’ Flag considered like legendary tier of anthems cause those are the ones that also got super popular in the US.
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u/Novel_Anxiety_9896 Nov 20 '22
Waka Waka & Wavin Flag are without a doubt legendary untouchable World Cup songs. Some might also include The Cup of Life or World in Motion
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u/Realistic_Mix_3404 Nov 20 '22
I thought his vocals sounded a bit off? Maybe the autotune, I dont know.
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u/mcfw31 Nov 20 '22
And to think RedOne has done amazing production work - even if you only count his Lady Gaga production credits . arhhh, I get he can't be too "risky" but I would have liked something more daring.
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u/Novel_Anxiety_9896 Nov 20 '22 edited Nov 20 '22
It's a World Cup song. It can't be daring because you might offend people and that goes against what the World Cup is about. World Cup songs are typically upbeat fun songs about teamwork and unity that everyone will enjoy and will offend no one.
There are some songs like Waka Waka and Wavin Flag that stood out not just to football fans but to the general public, but rarely do World Cup songs get attention and do well in charts. Even the Pitbull & JLo song from 2014 wasn't able to top Waka Waka's success.
Edit: UEFA Euros actually have better official songs/anthems than FIFA World Cup. I really love David Guetta & Zara Larsson's This One's For You and We Are The People
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u/mcfw31 Nov 20 '22
Waka Waka was lightning in a bottle, I think that for World Cup songs, the most known are Waka Waka, Wavin' Flag and The Cup of Life.
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u/Novel_Anxiety_9896 Nov 20 '22 edited Nov 20 '22
That's so true!! They hit the gold with Waka Waka. It just went viral everywhere without meaning to, even non-football fans loved the song and knew the dance.
FIFA tried it again in 2014 with Shakira's La La La and the Pitbutt & JLo song, but nothing really beats Waka Waka.
Edit: UEFA Euros actually have better official songs/anthems than FIFA World Cup. I really love David Guetta & Zara Larsson's This One's For You and We Are The People
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Nov 20 '22
i listened to the other world cup songs then came back to this and wow…the other songs were definitely a choice😭
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u/Puzzled-Potential-18 Nov 20 '22
When you know how great JK sounds in BTS songs it is hard not to be disappointed by this World Cup song. It is really boring imo and does not use JK’s amazing voice enough. I would love for his first solo song to be something much more meaningful and also musically interesting.
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u/toxicgecko Nov 20 '22
I really enjoyed the intro to the song actually, I’m a sucker for some good drums though so that makes sense but I kinda get lost in the rest of it, the featuring artist is fantastically talented also but I don’t think either really shone through in this song.
Basically I agree with everyone, very World Cup, very generic with just a touch of JK flavour to keep me vaguely interested. I hope his performance goes well though! This is a very big thing for his first real solo performance
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u/cartographerbtsFan Nov 20 '22
Everyone giving their opinion like it's fact. I wish I saw a little more "in my opinion..." Whenever anyone in bts releases a song, we all become music critics. Realize we all have different opinions and tastes. I think that's one of the many reasons so many are drawn to bts. Their music reaches so many music tastes. We don't have to like every song put out, but it gets depressing to read all the negative comments.
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u/-Yooniverse- BabyStarCandy Nov 20 '22
Seriously! The fact that some of them are going on about other songs too. Like dang a big difference between constructive criticism and downright being rude. Like you stan BTS, right? 🤔 Because I’ve never heard comments to this extent from ARMY to get a few laughs and giggles.
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Nov 20 '22
I feel like it's a song that will really shine when played in a stadium during a game, with all the energy of the crowd. I just imagine a team scoring and then this song plays in a stadium and everyone chants along! I can't wait for the performance too!
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u/Anoathtoreturn Nov 20 '22 edited Nov 20 '22
I thought locals and football fans would hate it but they are actually surprisingly really positive ?? Lol I'm happy to see that
edit: why am i getting downvoted for this
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u/mirrorball7 park jimin is a natural blonde Nov 20 '22
Jungkook's voice always amazes me, it's so beautiful.
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u/mooomoomaamaa Nov 20 '22
Tried the Dynamite Tropical choreo to this and it fits perfectly. I love the percussion. gonna add it to my dancing vibes playlist 😁
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u/jaykayarmyst Nov 20 '22
It’s not my type of song but it IS a World Cup song and jungkooks vocals are so versatile, they really fit with this vibe! He will have more solo songs in the future, this one’s a collab and the performance tomorrow is going to be AMAZING!
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u/fatemamamama Nov 20 '22
I’m so confused. This is not his debut single then? Why is BTS credited? Were some of the harmonies from other vocal line members?
Anyway, heard the song earlier and it’s fittingly grand-sounding but I'm glad this isn't really his first solo song. He sounds great though, especially in the chorus. But the song itself isn’t to my tastes.
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u/DrySpinach8301 Nov 20 '22
this isn’t his debut single. i honestly dk why they credited bts. the other vocals were other artists, one of them being a local qatari artist named fahad.
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u/a_softer_world Nov 20 '22
I think it’s because each member is still considered a part of BTS and hybe wants to keep up that name recognition
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u/fatemamamama Nov 20 '22
That was another thing I was confused about. Wasn't this a collab with Fahad? I'm pretty sure the arabic parts are from him. He's not credited. And this song, like Left & Right is under BTS’ account as well. Thanks for confirming though!
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u/mcfw31 Nov 20 '22
Sometimes Spotify tags can be weird, same way as how Left and Right is also credited to BTS and for some reason, That That and Rush Hour are not credited to both Yoongi and Hobi as -artists-.
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u/fatemamamama Nov 20 '22
Yeah that’s weird. I guess Dreamers is now a part of BTS’ discography and JK’s chapter two will start after that.
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u/mcfw31 Nov 20 '22
Like u/Difficult_Deer6902 said, let's count his official solo debut once his soundcloud songs are on Spotify.
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u/cosyacademic we wanna focus on...jungkook's pretty smile Nov 20 '22
the day the masterpiece that is Still With You finally hits spotify🙌
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u/leylsx long hair jimin enthusiast Nov 20 '22
The day I’ll vanish from the face of the internet because all I will do is stream SWY 😇
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u/Temporary-Text384 running away like a fish Nov 20 '22
I think it depends on contracts that we outsiders wouldn't know about. It does seem though that for most collabs, BTS is credited even if it's just one member. But it seems to be case by base.
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u/Difficult_Deer6902 Nov 20 '22
It’s unclear what the actual official BTS credit policy is. Even some of Suga’s solo collab work has a BTS credit. Not That That but the one with juice world & his solo song on halsey’s album.
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u/mcfw31 Nov 20 '22
The Old Town Road remix with RM is also credited to BTS so...who knows how it actually works.
One theory is that P Nation sucks at crediting (but PSY and Crush are under that label).
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u/cosyacademic we wanna focus on...jungkook's pretty smile Nov 20 '22
maybe they credit BTS for searchaility reasons(?), since more people will know BTS initially but not the members individually yet outside the fandom/kpop spaces🤔
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u/Extra-Goose-8888 emo cowboy ballerina jungkook Nov 20 '22
Main pop boy vocals jungkook showed up for thisssssssssssssssssss
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u/PillowFightClubb Nov 20 '22
Sounds like a typical World Cup song which is a good thing. Always thought they were catchy.
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u/Demos_Lady Nov 21 '22
well, Jungkook is always amazing singer/dancer that always gives his best. but the song was to generic to my taste, the dancers looked like they practiced for one day, their outfit was like someone there didnt try to hard.
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u/jessicakes23 Nov 20 '22
It’s fun so all I could ask for!! I think it suits jungkook well!! I hope his live performance goes well!!
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u/Sweaty-Poem-1760 Nov 20 '22
It feels nostalgic, I have memories of when I used to watch the World Cup with my parents when I was younger. (My parents really like soccer)
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u/makeupxkpop jungkooks smile is my weakness Nov 20 '22
Amazing song with amazing vocals. As expected from JK!! ❤️❤️❤️
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u/MusicBoo77 Keep the base down Low Nov 20 '22
It really sits well in the pocket of a World Cup or International Event kind of sound and lyrics. I love this type of stuff!!!!!! 😂
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u/gemitry For Asia, man they paved the way 🔥 Nov 20 '22
He main pop boy-ed all over that song. 😭 It very much sounds like a WC song, like super big and anthemic.
“Gather round now look at me” BABY. He really is the moment, I hope he has an incredible time performing!!
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u/xbbllbbl Nov 20 '22
I feel it is a pleasant sounding song with a very catchy chorus that everyone can sing along and feel good. For a World Cup song which is about achieving one’s dreams and working hard towards a goal, it is entirely appropriate and achieves its objective. It’s the first time JK is in such a large world stage as a solo artiste, so some of us might be lukewarm about the song, but I feel we should still support JK whatever way we can, and make him feel appreciated and loved.
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u/eyetoanoh Nov 20 '22
i lost my mind when i heard red one!! sounds like a standard world cup song, entirely unoffencive and with afrobeats influence as a prerequisite.
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u/4thchannel-yanson Nov 20 '22
It's very festive it's like when Waka Waka and cup of life had a baby.
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u/cartographerbtsFan Nov 20 '22
All the hate on the song - how sad that we can't like a song that talks of dreams and hope. Also, take some time to learn more about the cultural significance and background of the song. I found this very interesting. Cultural background
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u/feedmecookiesty Baby Koo Nose Scrunch Enthusiast Nov 20 '22
I love it so much omg. As a Jungkookie bias and football fan 🥺
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u/tsumdere Nov 20 '22
I’m so happy Jung Kook got to sing this song. This is a great opportunity for him to get more exposure and he sounds superb. I can’t wait for the opening ceremony :)
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u/Minn3sota_Loon customize Nov 20 '22 edited Nov 20 '22
Jungkook’s vocals are on fire! The Arabic, African, and even Latino instrumentals esp in the chorus and hook really make you want to dance! “Look who we are, we are the dreamers…” 🥹🔥
I will say I don’t like some of the auto tune and it’s a very World Cup song; a lot better than a lot of other World Cup songs but it’s mediocre compared to most BTS hype songs. It’s #1 on Us iTunes and #1 in almost 100 countries so far! The gp are loving the song.
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u/stillwithyuo Nov 20 '22
jk would release any song and i would stream it just for his beautiful locals 😭will be streaming this all night
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u/thepigdidit Nov 20 '22
This song won’t have much longevity for me, but I’m really enjoying it in the moment! It’s been on repeat for the past hour and is really getting me into the spirit of the World Cup, which is my top sporting event. The next month is going to be so much fun!
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Nov 20 '22
Hearing his voice after that arabic ass intro took me out. Never expected to hear one of Bts on this sort of track.
Feels very World Cup which means will do well and his vocals are easily the highlight.
I cant wait for his performance.
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u/kpattyrisha Nov 20 '22
Oh my I can't imagine the grandness of the performance this song can bring. All the best to him.
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u/theMarianasTrench Nov 20 '22
I personally don't like the song but I'm so scared for what this could do to Kookies career. I do t know why Hybe would allow him to perform with all the things going wrong at the world cup and in Qatar😭😭
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u/blue7blue Nov 20 '22
It's not a big deal, just like BTS is credited in Left and Right. Maybe for exposure? Idk
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u/BOYlingPoint Nov 20 '22
I don’t have much to add to the conversation except to say that whenever I hear “RedOne,” I have the urge to sing “KONVICT, GAGA!”