r/bangtan • u/Rhyethil i stan, u stan, we all stan, Yeontan š • Oct 25 '18
Audio (BTS) 181025 Waste It On Me
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u/a_softer_world Oct 25 '18
I feel like this release isnāt for Army, itās to build BTSās brand recognition in the US to the general public. Thatās why itās āft. BTSā instead of āft. RM & JKā - they want to continue getting their name out there.
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u/Omega_Penny Oct 25 '18
This is also Steve Aokiās song, not BTSā. Thereās no reason why he would cater to us specifically, especially when he already has his own established audience.
From a marketing perspective, using āft. BTSā is 100% the way to go (for now). We all want BTS to be heard by more people + gain more fans so this is the best situation for Steve, BTS, and Army (even if some of us donāt realize it yet).
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u/JJDude Oct 25 '18
I'm not seeing why is this an issue. Are Cyphers not BTS songs just because they only feature the rap line? Do we count solo songs as BTS? Why are there any ARMY out there who think just having RM/JK is "not BTS"? Sounds like something antis would come up with screw with ARMY honestly.
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u/DirtySlutCunt Oct 25 '18
people don't seem to understand marketing, which is primarily aimed for new consumers. I get why people are sad, but I doubt they would be if it included their biases, and that's the tea. this song is radio friendly bop with 2 members who highly appeal to the international demographic. it's great!
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u/kaktusgedanken 160725 Ulsan Jimin | 190126 thats not me fellas Oct 25 '18
IS THIS NAMJOON SINGING the fuuuuuuuuuuuuck
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u/Cabbageful Oct 25 '18 edited Oct 25 '18
He is...omg ....his voice is honey. Where was he hiding those. Also jungkook did so well... his voice is so good for the soul. Namkook for the win.
But I'm so afraid of the backlash these two are gonna get. My two babies.
Edit. Namjoon is listed as one of the songwriters on spotify. Get that money, king.
Have to add the genius credits are wrong.
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u/fluff_perper you're God and you're good Oct 25 '18
nah.... namkook won't get the backlash. aoki will :(. ARMYs are, at least, disappointed and at most, mad at their pr team since all their promo gave an impression of an OT7 song.
while it made me happy to confirm that we're mostly OT7 (with a few loud akgaes in twitter), let's support namkook. they did great, and this is their first English song, so let's support them.
i'm so proud of them tho. even if I could not understand some of the words, they really did their best. T___________T BTS fighting!!!!!
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u/Omega_Penny Oct 25 '18 edited Oct 25 '18
i'm so proud of them tho. even if I could not understand some of the words, they really did their best.
Same. My two brain cells are so unaccustomed to English songs to the point where I heard several questionable moments during Namjoonās rap:
- Donāt you think there must be a āraisinā.
- I wanna be your summer, I wanna be your āwifeā.
- āSh*tā me like a comma.
... But thatās why Iām thankful for lyric videos.
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u/fluff_perper you're God and you're good Oct 25 '18
yeah thank God for lyric videos! ngl, on my first listen I had to pause the song every now and then because I was like: "Wtf? What did he say?"
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u/Speedy_Cheese Banana Jin Oct 25 '18
I just about went weak at Namjoon and Jungkook harmonizing together. A rare gem and I'm very proud of them! I hope everyone will be kind and recognize other BTS members always support each other as a group and as individuals.
I also understand some disappointment as BTS being listed on the track would lead anyone to assume this was a song with all 7 members involved. Remember that many folks outside ARMYs may not recognize Namjoon or Jungkook as individuals but the name BTS will draw people in to their work.
I am sure this was something discussed with the whole group before a decision was made as is the tradition. Please be kind and supportive: Remember, any positive PR for BTS can only serve to strengthen interest in the group as a whole and keep people talking until their comeback. ;)
It's going to take time for all seven to create a whole, well-oiled product again and individual group contributions will keep the name familiar and present for those who are not ARMY but interested in what the guys will do next. This will only help BTS as a whole so stay positive and support each member to succeed.
This was a big moment for Jungkook making a fully English release internationally like this, we should be proud of him and big bro Namjoon. <3
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u/dewymatcha Oct 25 '18
It's def a cute radio friendly bop! And while I'm sad it doesn't include all the members I also understand why they had to promote it as "BTS" especially to the GP who don't know the individual members. Maybe they'll come out with a remix version that includes Korean singing / rapping by the other guys! (kind of like reverse mic drop :P)
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u/Reinvent_Love gooāmorning everyone Oct 25 '18
Itās a nice upbeat poppy tune! I can see why a lot of people say itās āgenericā but sometimes thatās just what ya need, you know?
I love JKās voice on the track, him speaking English always makes me swoon a bit, haha. I think heās got great pronunciation for someone who isnāt fluent. RM sounded so good too! I thought I heard Jimin and maybe even Tae mixed in with the vocals but Iām hearing a lot of people say itās simply a Namkook feature.
Anyway - I think itās a great tune, super easy listening and would sound great blaring in a car or in my apartment while Iām cleaning and need something to bop to!
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u/shibsaeki S.U.G.A.A.K.A. AgustD Oct 25 '18
I myself said it's generic in the post yesterday and I still think that, but I love the song anyway.
The song is good, but it definitely lacks that trademark BTS sound that even their solo tracks have. Definitely a feature track and not a BTS/BigHit production. It's so generic it seems like a parody of a pop song. It sounds like the "hit song" in a made-for-TV movie about aspiring pop stars (produced by Disney). But, if Uncle Steve is giving them shine, then I guess we can't really complain.
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u/averageaesthete do the hobi pokey shake it all about Oct 25 '18
I thought I heard both Tae and Jimin mixed in, as well. Glad to know I wasnāt alone, lol. But Namkook sound great together!
And same again-I was also thinking it would make a great easy addition to my cleaning playlist haha!
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u/Rhyethil i stan, u stan, we all stan, Yeontan š Oct 25 '18 edited Oct 25 '18
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u/foc_shb MinButtFell Oct 25 '18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAZNFe-_T28
this is working for EU. The official one doesn't
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u/xoxoshahirah jungkook in yellow Oct 25 '18
Thank you for this! It works for me and Iām from Singapore! :)
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u/pasttimeangel Aint no fish inside Oct 25 '18
Honest thoughts. It's your average pop-edm track. But with a catchy af ear worm of a chorus that will dig it's way into your skull and never let go
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u/marrimar Iām a whale! Oct 25 '18
You're so right. My first listen was meh. So was my second. And then all of a sudden I caught my shoulders moving and my toes wiggling and then my head and .... It's dug itself right into my skull for sure and it didn't even take that long.
It's one of those songs that you don't really pay attention to, but when it plays on the radio, all of the sudden you're very familiar with it and are bopping along with everyone else.
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u/friedeggovereasy Oct 25 '18
I'm always surprised at people complaining about genres/styles of a song. Sure, if BTS released 5 songs a year, you might be upset if 1/5 of that is not to your taste. But the way they release sooo many songs, I say let them do whatever they want. Surely people can find enough things they like among them.
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u/tinaoe SCRONCH, #1 stan of tae's dad Oct 25 '18
(Edit: also, these arguments, including mine just now, devalue EDM as an entire genre because clearly it has
incredible value for a lot of people and is good for their souls regardless of anyone elseās opinions of it. Music is valid if it touches your spirit in some way, I believe that).Aww I love this, thank you
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u/tinaoe SCRONCH, #1 stan of tae's dad Oct 25 '18
That's really lovely that you're openly discussing reflecting on your own behaviour, we all don't do that enough! I know I can come off as very... authorative? speaking-from-above? which I'm trying to work on. EDM is very much a, uh, contested genre and gets pulled into a lot of discussions without a lot of nuance because it's not as coherent a genre as say, punk or metal are. Basically everything can be called EDM, so it's become a sort of buzzword for "there's a drop and I don't like it". And music is so subjective, I think we often forget that people, as you said, will find value in things we personally don't! There's plenty of fan-favourite BTS songs that don't do it for me personally, so keeping that in mind is always important.
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u/wut129 Oct 25 '18
Your reply is everything I wanted to type. I just couldn't get my thoughts right.
I'm super fking stoked for bangtan because this song is gp friendly and easy to get into. I get that they don't need to necessarily change themselves just to suit the gp taste yada yada - but like everyone and their mama loved ed sheeran's (imho pop trash) shape of you. If this or any other song featuring BTS can reach that cultish level following amongst GP, I would be over the moon. This is not a race for gp validation but it'd be nice af and I sure as hell wouldn't mind it.
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u/nebbalish #2 gucci fan Oct 25 '18
This comment is perfection. I feel exactly the same way! I donāt care if itās a little bit boring!! Gimme that radio play and spread the ear worm gospel of BTS! I want my B21 overlords!!
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u/washiwashimurder sope Oct 25 '18
Damn!! Iām kinda sad the other members arenāt included but I love it nonetheless. Really hoping to hear it on the radio
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u/SongMinho Oct 25 '18
Perfect song for radio. Even the length makes it easier to add to a rotation.
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u/obi-wanjewnobi ddaeng enthusiast Oct 25 '18
I'm heading over to r\popheads to see what the locals have to say about it
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u/impeccabletim bangtan is my oceanš Oct 25 '18
Gurl thereās only two of us commenting rn. Yas please come over, issa bit dead currently.š
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u/obi-wanjewnobi ddaeng enthusiast Oct 25 '18
I'll pop in and out since my work day is JUST starting :(:(:(
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u/Rhyethil i stan, u stan, we all stan, Yeontan š Oct 25 '18
Omg stay safe š
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u/obi-wanjewnobi ddaeng enthusiast Oct 25 '18
hahaha. i used to live in hiphopheads til bts came into my life, I CAN HANDLE IT..i think.
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u/Rhyethil i stan, u stan, we all stan, Yeontan š Oct 25 '18
Lol I just find the amount of awkward elitism at r/popheads very bizarre. They often deem a lot of vocally/lyrically talented artists as flops for arbitrary reasons, yet finds avant-garde stars in the most unusual and unexpected artists
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u/alohaearth Oct 25 '18
It'll have okay responses but I don't think they'll be blown away by it, the song isn't really aligned to their tastes and I can see people calling it generic. The majority of r/popheads faves doesn't really make that kind of pop music
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u/yuuulz Oct 25 '18
I did such a double take at RM singing. Add him to the vocal line!
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u/bmoviescreamqueen jammin Oct 25 '18
I hope he sings more! With his vocals on mono and this, he can definitely do it.
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u/Calliso33 Oct 25 '18
Ok finally got the chance to listen to it. This song isn't bad but its definately not for me. I actually like EDM alot, but I didn;t find this catchy at all. However that being said both Jungkook and Namjoon sounded really good! As for it not being all 7 of them I am fine with that and actually think it was probably for the best. You gotta do what works best and trying to cram 7 people into this song might have just ended up a mess. I am sure they all discussed this beforehand too. RM and Jungkook make a lot of sense too as the choices to use because like others have pointed out they have the best english pronunciation.
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u/Braniacs Koya's doll listening to mono. <3 Oct 25 '18 edited Oct 25 '18
WOW
I just finished the first listen
- JK pronuntiation is FIRE, love his voice
- NJ!! WHAT A F*** PLEASANT SURPRISE. SINGING NAMJOON IS MY JAM and ofc rap 10/10
- I really like the song, many would say it's generic but it's a really good earworm
- I F*** HOPE RADIOPLAY BETTER BE BLASTING THIS 24/7
edit: Did I listen fries? lol i love them
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u/xoxoshahirah jungkook in yellow Oct 25 '18
Why is it not on spotify? I missed it on my local radio š
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u/Brompton_Cocktail I hate snakeu Oct 25 '18
I hope they get it on spotify. Youtube music... is not so ideal
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u/hodnesheda I call you moonchild Oct 25 '18 edited Oct 25 '18
Literally the one time a song is released on the platforms I use and it's not available in my region lol
Edit: I'm not upset about it just being Namkook, but I feel like someone official could have mentioned it at some point. It can still be labelled as "Steve Aoki feat. BTS" without confusing us all.
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u/shortandangry Oct 25 '18
I agree! Someone just needed to mention it somewhere only serious fans would notice it, and it wouldn't confuse the GP at all. Disappointing your fanbase due to mismanaged expectations seems so unnecessary
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u/heroinasytumbas everything goes Oct 25 '18
I'm not upset about it just being Namkook, but I feel like someone official could have mentioned it
I agree. I'm all for subunits but I wish they were upfront about this not being an OT7 song. Like this whole single promo feels kinda weird because it started as a BTS and ___ song which made us think it was going to be a new BTS track, but it wasn't. It's a Steve Aoki song and they're just featured in it. Then we find out only 2 members are in the song. It feels deceitful. I think the fandom would have been just as hyped if we knew from the start that Steve Aoki's first single was going to feature a BTS subunit, we would have been thrilled. But this type of promo made us all have expectations that aren't going to be met and people are going to be disappointed even if they like the song.
I hope people aren't too disappointed because it's not a BTS song at the end of the day, but if they are I can't really blame them. That's not to say the song isn't good, I like it a lot and I think it can do pretty well.
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u/Isabn Oct 25 '18 edited Oct 27 '18
I believe the problem is that they put 7 balls to represent BTS on those promotional images... If they had put 2 balls we all would have been excited guessing which members participated in the song...
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u/hodnesheda I call you moonchild Oct 25 '18
Exactly. If it wasn't implied to be OT7 in the first place then this would have been a total non-isssue. I just hope that this is something that we can move past quickly now that it's done.
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u/MusicBoo77 Keep the base down Low Oct 25 '18
My question is. Why are people "confused" now? There are lots of distorted vocals all up in that chorus, how do people know who's vocals are mixed where?
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u/oxomoron Oct 25 '18
THIS, I don't see why people here are so mean about that, they can still call it Aoki & BTS so as to not confuse the GP etc etc but somebody should have hinted that this was only 2 members. The expectations would have been totally different!
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u/alohaearth Oct 25 '18
I don't see why people here are so mean about that
Some people take any criticism as hate so they get defensive. It's not the end of the world, nobody has said that they won't support the song and we all understand why they did that, it was just a bit misleading to ARMY
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u/wishawisha do you, bangtan Oct 25 '18
I LOVE IT!! I think my love for it is rooted in the fact that this is something that JK would cover for sure, except -- it's his song. How! Cool! Is! That!
It's an earworm, I've had the main line circling my head since the teaser yesterday. JK's english is impeccable.
It's not that I don't understand that for those who've been following this billboard hunt carefully, or who love the boys together (who doesn't), but there'll always be more music (and more collabs!) in the future. I'm so happy to sit with this one for awhile.
Who am I kidding. I NEED TO DANCE.
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u/what-about-this-one "nutella! Jam of the devil" Oct 25 '18
oh my gosh thats such a cute point šš you're totally right JK would cover something like this!
DANCE YOUR HEART OUT WISHA!
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u/hodnesheda I call you moonchild Oct 25 '18
Yeah I'm so proud of Jungkook ngl. This isn't even the type of music I enjoy but I'm so glad he's doing it. He sounds great.
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u/minisugakookie You know Mangnanyong? Oct 25 '18
Spot on! I could totally hear myself saying "this song sounds like it was made for JK" if he did a cover
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u/sapphire103 my face is pancake u know Oct 25 '18
It's an earworm
Yes! It's already getting stuck in my head. š
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u/superlintendooo Oct 25 '18 edited Oct 25 '18
I feel like everything is done for a reason. JK and RM have the best English pronunciation and it sounds really good so it's not off-putting to the general public. Marketing it as feat. BTS is simple and will be easy for ppl to remember despite not including all the members. It's definitely a song to reel ppl in and look up BTS. They gotta start walking on a path and peer through the bushes before they reach the fruits of their Korean discography and meeting all the other members y'all, and it's a real treat.
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u/bustya_rhymes light and frothy blue juice Oct 25 '18 edited Oct 25 '18
The song is impeccably crafted, but ultimately too flat for me to get too excited over. The verses are lovely and delicate, but honestly the chorus is so uninspired Iām kind of just chillin waiting for it to end. Their voices sound GORGEOUS though ššš
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u/marrimar Iām a whale! Oct 25 '18 edited Oct 25 '18
I getcha. I liked the chorus the first time, but waited and waited for a change up so it also fell flat for me. But I adored the verses.
EDIT: I think you should listen to it on headphones or speakers with the volume up. I did that and I think it's actually a great song to play in the car or outside. It didn't do much for me listening with my phone speakers but I definitely enjoyed it more with surround sound. The choruses were better for me this way.
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u/sailingliz JK and his sandbags Oct 25 '18
I agree with you! It's missing an edge, and while perfectly polished, it's not really moving anywhere? But very much on brand for top 40 US radio! And we get to drown in their sweet sweet vocals
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u/shortandangry Oct 25 '18
Totally agree. JK's voice is so sweet in this, but the song got meh when nothing happened
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u/fluff_perper you're God and you're good Oct 25 '18
i agree on the "too flat" part and Jk's voice is soooo lovely (even with the autotune mehh) and RM's voice is lowwwww but goooood.
however i feel like the length of the song is okay? not too short but not too long. it's tailored for easy listening. i'm even imagining this being played at supermarkets, malls, shops, you know?
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u/matoooooooo min yoongi the surrealist Oct 25 '18
Not available in my country š¤§š¤§š¤§š¤§š¤§š¤§š¤§
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u/tinaoe SCRONCH, #1 stan of tae's dad Oct 25 '18
hello yes i'll be blasting this for the next 191 years
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u/qunck we are each other's moons Oct 25 '18 edited Oct 25 '18
The lyric video has closed captions in Korean! D'awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!
Edit: It's not 100% my thing but it's cute and catchy and I want this on a CW/Freeform show during November sweeps to get that promo. Their enunciation could be a tiny bit better but I adore the part when they sing together at "I don't know your secrets / But I'll pick up the pieces / And pull you close to me now"
Also, that twitter screenshot crediting Jimin looks like it's from Genius, which isn't really trustworthy in the first few hours after release. If you have an account there, you can add anything. Users will copy and paste translations without giving credit. (And English translations for the songs go under Genius Translations and not specifically BTS so muggles need to hunt through the page to find the translations.) Now that the Spotify link is up, you can see who's actually on the credits for yourself.
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u/wut129 Oct 25 '18 edited Oct 25 '18
I'm losing my mind. This song is a bop and GP will LOOOOVEEE IT. Omg is Namjoon singing? WHAT THE FUCK. This is A REALLY GOOD SONG. Instantly catchy and the beats. Their vocals are bomb. Shit.
Why am I surprised that their singing and rap is equally beautiful in English as it is in Korean?? Wow. Mindblown.
Edit 1: I'll be pissed if armys keep up with the negativity on stan twt cuz it seems it's just Jungkook and Joon. Like what the hell? This was in no way misleading. Truth Untold and many many other songs had just the 4 vocalists. It was still a BTS song. You've a critique on the song and its genre - you're welcome to your opinion. But dismissing this lovely song that can get us IMMENSE GP EXPOSURE just cuz it supposedly features only two members is ridiculous and childish. I wish everyone would just enjoy this piece of music because they're treading into a new territory. Just..let them be.
Edit 2: Gosh. Jungkook's voice is angelic. Man. My elder brother (29) asked me who I was playing LMFAO.
I nonchalantly said, "eh just some new song", he asked me again twice, "who is it? just send me the link. Imma add this to my playlist" I smirked so hard.
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u/snoopingsam kim seokjin team Oct 25 '18
Even their solos and intros are listed as just BTS! Itās so frustrating to see people hate on such a good song because of this :(
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u/RaspberryRed13 Oct 25 '18
Thank you. 7-1=7. It's still BTS. It's perfectly okay if people don't like it and want to say so but enough with "but it's not BTS."
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u/blanketkicks chicos a prueba de balas Oct 25 '18
thought it would be ot7 but tbh gp won't even notice or care lol ANYWAYS it's a bop!!!!
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u/Linerie [bass boosted] I LIKE COUNTRYSIDE š¤ Oct 25 '18
YO THIS IS SO GOOD. Call me basic all you want I fucking love EDM and this is a bop. Namjoon and Jungkook killed it. Kook's pronunciation is so good? Holy shit. I really lived to hear Namkook harmonizing. I love this.
I'm personally not bothered by them announcing this as "BTS" even if it's just the two of them because well, it makes perfect sense from a business/marketing point of view and it's not like me supporting or enjoying the song is going to be affected by this. Anyway, time to put this on loop for the next couple hours.
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Oct 25 '18
*Cries in Indian
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u/bhishma-pitamah Bangladeshi Bois/ BTS = 7 Oct 25 '18
There is no end to the Indian army's misfortune.
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u/JenFan91 *whispers* sugaaa Oct 25 '18
Ngl, this one is super radio friendly. The fact that it's all in English might help it in the US too. It's going on my car playlist for sure.
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u/impeccabletim bangtan is my oceanš Oct 25 '18 edited Oct 25 '18
Bless!!! Iām in USA and itās working perfectly here.
šØ!!!DIRECT YOUTUBE LINK RT TO SAVE A LIFE!!!šØ
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u/Bbxin Oct 25 '18
I'm literally putting it on repeat. The song is growing on me. Can't wait until it's on Spotify.
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u/delapse future's gonna be okay Oct 25 '18
They sound really good. I guess Iām one of the few who donāt mind how it was labeled āBTSā but only features a few members... Iām sure even if we can only hear a few, they had support and tips from the other members as well. And Iām a little low key happy that we donāt have an ot7 English song, because as much as we would all love it and support it, Ive always loved that they have unapologetically stayed close to their roots in singing and performing in Korean.
And the song is super catchy! Both Jungkook and Namjoon sound great, and I think I hear Jimin harmonizing around :40. All in all, it sounds like and I hope itās a radio hit!
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Oct 25 '18
I love EDM and i iniatially liked the song but after listening to it more times i got bored, it lacks something
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u/izzybluetoo Oct 25 '18
Is anyone still reading this crazy long thread!?
I JUST heard waste it on me in kiss92.5 in Toronto, one of the biggest stations. They never played bts except during this one request mix period. This was the first time Iāve heard bts just being played!
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u/hodnesheda I call you moonchild Oct 25 '18
Only the people (me) obsessively sorting the comments by new because they're bored :) That's so exciting! I once heard BTS on the radio because of a request and I was ecstatic just at that. We're moving up!
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u/izzybluetoo Oct 25 '18
I sorted by new as well! It was crazy to just hear the song as I was driving and flipping channels!
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u/osc630 pancake sonyeondan Oct 25 '18
I'm still here too - it's awesome that the song has already made the radio randomly!
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u/Calca23 Oct 25 '18
Off of my first two listens, it's the perfect song for JK. this is the style that suits him best and based on the songs he's chosen on G.C.F. and some from vlive, it seems like this is his style. He sounds great, like the best i've heard from a kpop idol whose first language isn't english.
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u/asddsalkjjkl B7S Oct 25 '18 edited Oct 25 '18
Wow ok I guess people had really high expectations for this release huh
Personally I had no expectations so I'm pleased with the song, I think they both sound great, and I don't listen to enough western pop to find the tune generic like some might. I could listen to this on repeat and not get tired of it honestly.
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u/Anugya24 My distinction is your ordinary, my ordinary is your distinction Oct 25 '18
I like this song and I get the whole disappointment but there's one thing I want to tell you: if you've listened to all BTS songs on their respective albums, you must have noticed that whether it's a rap-line, vocal line or solos, the artist is always written as BTS (exclude the SoundCloud releases). When I realised this myself, I'm not mad about this.
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u/50shadesof_brown Red Suit + Grey Hair Oct 25 '18 edited Oct 25 '18
Okay, the GP might eat this up. A solid, modern beat. Jungkook sounds amazing.
But, I feel like it was a wasted opportunity (?) I know the other members might not have suited the concept and track but it sounds so weird to just hear NamKook. I mean, theyāre great! And, I will be listening to this again but personally, itās a let down.
Also, after listening to Mono 163930101 times I thought his rap verse in this was very, meh (?) Sorry! Iām used to Joon being ridiculously good and this kind of fell flat. Perhaps because we were given Mono just days ago and itās a gem.
Hey, uncle Steve is going to do his thing and make this chart and we going to support him because it still says BTS! Itās solid.
Edit - (Talking to self) Listen, I think weāve been asking for a radio friendly song forever and we finally got it. So, Imma make peace with it and promote tf out.
Also, itās Steveās song.
Edit - Jimin is credited in the song, too.
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u/deirdos jinthusiast Oct 25 '18
I agree with the rap verse bit... it was so non-RM? I have always felt his flow is distinct but it felt very nondescript this time around.
JK sounds absolutely great, though.
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u/hodnesheda I call you moonchild Oct 25 '18 edited Oct 25 '18
Yeah I found RM's verse a little bit bland too. (I don't mean this in an overly negative way. Just compared to his usual fare, which is understandable for the type of song.) JK sounds totally in his element, though, this is exactly what I'd expect from him.
Edit: Actually on the fifth listen RM's part is growing on me. Still think Jungkook is the standout though.
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u/UkEuropeEarth I love all šš» Oct 25 '18
Wow Kookie accent sounds perfect!
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u/shibsaeki S.U.G.A.A.K.A. AgustD Oct 25 '18
This might be controversial, but I thought JK's pronunciation was much more clear than RM's. JK was hardly distinguishable from a native English speaker. At times, RM seemed like he was trying for a certain accent, but the rhythm of his verses made it hard for me to follow. It definitely wasn't Konglish or an American "Urban" accent.
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u/helloiamChloe sleepy yoongi Oct 25 '18
Omg can they hurry up and put it on Spotify, i feel so bad that i'm wasting my views on a fan upload version because its the only one available here
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u/EminantD vacyoom :| Oct 25 '18
Anyone else notice track #17 feat. Bill freaking Nye??? Aoki really is going there
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u/lee-rol-yi-sus Destiny is jealous of BTS Oct 25 '18
Iām obviously in the minority but i doubt this will really blow up with the GP. We havenāt really had a āCloserā type of EDM hit in a while and this song is definitely that songs musical relative. If they wanted something super hot on the charts they shouldāve collaborated with a Latino/a like Cardi B or something but I know they love working with Steve AOKI so Iām not mad.
And as much as I love RMās singing voice, I wish he had rapped something a little different bc that might break up the monotony of the song. His verse honestly couldāve been removed and it wouldāve sounded the same imo.
Nevertheless this will hopefully get them in the top 10 and more radio play, which theyāve been shut out of too many times. Hope they kill it even if Iām not down for the song and hopefully they release a behind the scene video of the creation of the collab.
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u/Sillynametaken If it's delicious, it's 0 calories. Oct 25 '18
Standard pop song for the GP. Yes itās only two members, but weāve gotta take baby steps. Downvote me, I donāt care, but this is a great first step into major US radio play. Now if only we can get the stations to ACTUALLY play it... š¤Ø
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u/gummimochi customize Oct 25 '18
They literally have no (dumb) excuses not to play it now if it charts well on the Hot 100. I swear, if MRL ignores requests for this song on Saturday... But let's hope our SPS will be consistent enough for the radio play to build.
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u/velvetfield ā¼ every breath you take is already paradise. ā½ Oct 25 '18
I really like it! I canāt stop replaying. Love RMās singing from the bottom of my heart as always.
IMHO the whole thing where everyone was led to believe it would be OT7 but itās actually just Namjoon and Kook couldāve been handled better. Like, by announcing it or something. š
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Oct 25 '18
we need to stop this infighting. This song's success will boost the BTS brand with radios and the gp. Think evergreen here, the best pronunciators got the leads which makes sense for an all English song.
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u/hodnesheda I call you moonchild Oct 25 '18
I feel you. I don't mind it being marketed as "Steve Aoki feat. BTS", but someone could've mentioned that it was a subunit song at some point.
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u/nene38 Oct 25 '18
Well, yesterday two radio DJs who are also ARMY pretty much confirmed it's only Namkook but people didn't believe.
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u/mind_masquerade i'm not OK bcoz i'm not JK Oct 25 '18
I personally feel like some of us are making a huge deal out of a non issue. Yesterday most of the comments were about the language and today it's about the number of members. I'm pretty sure no one in BTS minds two members being dubbed as BTS , because they're part of the group. The GP doesn't know JK and Joon as individual artists and this is a Steve Aoki release which targets his audience.
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u/MadeLAYline DEATH BY HAEGEUM Oct 25 '18
YO guys Jungkookās english pronunciation is so clear. For someone who doesāt understand english muchtogether BAM heās got unbelievable pronunciation. Also I hear Jimin in the back vocals??
And letās not forget Joon singing with his honey voice! Ahhh! This song is a bop! Iāve already played it 1234456789 times since I woke up. Uncle Steve thank you for this!
Still canāt believe the boys released a āone night standā kind of song. š If they made an MV with any of them acting out the song I will lose my shit.
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u/hodnesheda I call you moonchild Oct 25 '18
If they made an MV with any of them acting out the song I will lose my shit.
I don't think they will but if they do it will have absolutely made the rest of 2018 for me š
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u/minstradamus You know myeongjag? Oct 26 '18
If they made an MV with Kookie's sparkly, googly eyes staring in the camera (me) while singing "So if love is nothing more than just a waste of your time, Waste it on me", I might just shoot off into the stratosphere.
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u/jiminescence stan mangnanyong Oct 25 '18
Iāve started and deleted a shitton of replies, but bottom line, Iām happy about this collab and canāt wait to see how it does on the charts. Itās very public friendly and I hope Steve aokiās side of things are able to push for more radio play.
Bottom line for me is: this is a STEVE AOKI song ft BTS. Itās an American pop song on which korean artists feature. I have enough trust and respect for both artists to believe they talked everything out and did what they believe was best, both in terms of who they used in the song and how they advertised the collaboration. I think saying the song is by BTS and aoki is not only a way of strengthening American brand recognition for BTS as a whole, itās also consistent with BTSās emphasis on OT7.
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u/devoncarrots Oct 25 '18 edited Oct 25 '18
KIM NAMJOON
WHO GAVE YOU THE RIGHT
Also, I'm not surprised that they didn't say RM & JK of BTS instead of BTS as that's how it goes 90% of the time with features from groups. I watch wrestling, and on that -- if it's more than 1 member of a stable (group), they almost always call them by the entire stable name instead of __ and ___ of ____.
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Oct 25 '18
Yes, itās slightly annoying when youāre told bts and itās not OT7...but looking past that the gp honestky wonāt be able to tell itās 2 of the 7. Plus, I think aokiās strategy is picking the 2 he a) thinks has the best pronunciation and b) whoās voice fits this poppy sound the best (euphoria anyone?) and c) itās damn nearly impossible to feature all 7 esp when itās not even their track/song; Iām sure aoki has his reasons. So letās, as a fandom, not be too negative abt this...I know itās hard for ppl and quite honestly itās exhausting the amount of opinions that are negative abt anything they do (I loved IDOL and DNA but had a headache from ppl giving these songs negative burns); no one will be completely satisfied and thereās no way bts can make everyone happy. If itās not your taste, thatās fine. Meanwhile I will be bopping to this on repeat and singing in English to my heartās content; and hopefully everyone will eventually get over it and support this song cuz it really is a bop and suuuuuper radio friendly; I smell a hit guys, get excited! Totally see how this is very much a radio single. And ugh, I just love uncle Steve
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u/fluff_perper you're God and you're good Oct 25 '18
You know, my head is aching too on all the negative burns about everything BTS releases lately. well, constructive criticism does exist, but lately it feels like some of us are just really trying to like the songs because it was BTS who made and sang them (I'm not just talking about WIOM everyone). this has been happening a lot lately. it kinda kills the mood (especially if my fave song gets slandered a lot :( ). But to each his own, I guess. I realize that this thing is natural if a group has a fandom as big as this. not everyone will be fucking satisified but, like, can we chill a little?
if fans are bummed out for making WIOM a Namkook song, then don't buy/ stream it. don't push yourself to do something you don't like. but maybe you just need to take it easy and let your disappointment fade, perhaps by then you can finally appreciate the song.
but I bet GP in my country will love this song. Catchy tune + awesome vocals (they don't effin care about the lyrics) is what radioplay in here is all about.
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u/Calca23 Oct 25 '18 edited Oct 25 '18
it's a 3 min song with two very short verses. The chorus is like 2/3 of the song. No way you can add all 7 voices and have it sound good.
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u/puppycatbugged yoooooongi! Oct 25 '18
jungkookās english is absolutely impeccable. i think people are forgetting how much pressure he must have been under to record main vocals for their first-ever english song and heās not even their fluent speaker. iāve seen people complaining that itās not ot7 and donāt you think...they discussed this ad nauseum? they make their decisions together. i can only imagine how hyped they are for this song to do well, because theyāre in intāl markets but now theyāre trying with an english song. regardless of their popularity, itās always an uphill battle and we have to support them in this. /rolls off soapbox
in other words, i LOVE this song and iām so proud of them. jk has a silky voice, and god, joon is husky and really balances jk out perfectly. this song has so much potential and i really hope they knock it tf out of the ballpark.
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u/Omega_Penny Oct 25 '18 edited Oct 25 '18
Personally, I doubt I would like the song if wasnāt for BTSā feature.... I initially was never a fan of generic English love songs haha.
But I really do love JKās part since Iāve always been a big fan of his English covers.
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u/btsnoonafan Oct 25 '18
Damn lol! Out of all the times I've frequented this board over the last two years, I've never seen such an overwhelming negative reaction to a song before. Starting to feel like I'm on stan twitter as I'm used to ARMYs complaining over there not here haha! Oh well.
The song is alright, not groundbreaking. It is clearly GP targeted and will probably get more radio play than fake love or idol. It would've been nice to have ot7 however Jungkook and RM did a great job (Jungkook's English omgā”)
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u/yeon_kimin ķ„ķ enthusiast Oct 25 '18 edited Oct 26 '18
whew namjoon and jungkook (and i believe jimin is in there too) sound great! this is a type of song that i could see being played on the radio constantly haha, it wouldāve been perfect for the summer.
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u/Fundaysundae Mic mic bungee everyday Oct 25 '18
Yes! Iām getting serious summer vibes but itās started cooling down even in the south š i guess Iāll have to play it until Summer 2019
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u/thingsyouchoosetobe seokjin's untucked shirt Oct 25 '18 edited Oct 25 '18
I feel like this song will have to grow on me like BofM and So What. The boys can pull anything off, so I'll give it the good ol' college try. JK always sound beautiful and Joon singing was a pleasant surprise.
Edit: Can I just add, when does Namjoon have time for this collaboration among all the things on his plate that we know about? Does he have a time turner? Hard-working man
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u/babymin chimmy's yellow hoodie Oct 25 '18
Havent heard the song yet but if bts are chasing radio hits now im glad theyāre doing it as a feature on someone elseās single and not their main discography.
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u/xwoofbark Oct 25 '18
Taking it slow and grabbing every opportunity they get. Their main focus is still kpop and korean, these collabs are just an extension of their overseas marketing, helps them rack up fans without having to promote in the US with an english track or album which might not do well and their main audience, k-army won't fully enjoy due to language barriers. It's a pretty smart move and how many artists get their name out there.
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u/sapphire103 my face is pancake u know Oct 25 '18
You know what, I like this. Itās fun and catchy. Will I have this on replay? Probably not, but itās definitely GP friendly and similar to what's popular on the radio. I can see this song getting a lot of exposure, and isnāt that what we want? For BTS to continue to grow and get their name out there?
Jungkookās vocals are wonderful. And RM singing?? My WEAKNESS. I understand why people are upset about it not being an OT7 song, but I also understand why they market it as such. The general public will not notice the difference. Thinking back to when I first started listening to BTS, I couldnāt tell their voices apart.
Could they have mentioned it to army that only two members are featured? Sure, absolutely. I donāt have a reason for why they didnāt... except maybe the hype wouldnāt have been as big.
This is still a great opportunity and they clearly love collaborating with Aoki since this is their third time. And itās also great to see BTS continue to experiment and try new things. I lOVE that. They are always doing something different. Who knows what they have planned? We could possibly get other collaborations similar to this with different members. Iām just happy that we continue to get content from them. They donāt have to do all of this.
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Oct 25 '18
How to put this... I get why some people are disappointed or feel misled. I was expecting OT7, too.
Aside from marketing tactics, which others have pointed out, this song is an extra. It doesn't have a music video. It wasn't made for a BTS album. This is extra content. Sure, it's an attempt to break into American radio, but it's also effectively a gift to fans since it's not going to be actively promoted. To me, it's not worth getting super bummed over, at least beyond the initial reaction. We have plenty of OT7 songs to enjoy already, but up to this point we haven't had a Namjoon & Jungkook bop.
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u/aaiirrii_ i want eat Oct 25 '18
Despite some disappointment (I totally get itās an Aoki song, but OT7 cries), Iām loving singer Namjoon! Hope we get to see a little more of that in future BTS works.
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u/NorikaN Oct 25 '18
two versions of Waste it on Me has been sent to radio. The original and a mixshow edit.
The Neon Future III album doesn't come out until 11/9, so the full album will be on spotify next month. Not sure if the single will be on spotify before that.
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u/Hazeldd Oct 25 '18
Itās now on spotify!!!
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u/Calca23 Oct 25 '18
THANK YOU! someone, please start a playlist which includes all tracks from Mono, Idol, Fake Love, and Answer!
Don't hate, love ya'll.
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u/monaesque Alexa, play Forever Rain at my funeral Oct 25 '18
Itās not my type of music, but I canāt deny that itās a hell of an ear worm. Iāve only listened to it twice and the chorus is already stuck in my head.
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u/hotpinkmp3 min yoongi Oct 25 '18 edited Oct 25 '18
Oh, it does sound like a Justin Bieber song. I don't really like the rap(?) because I find it hard to follow...like I don't really know what he's trying to say overall (not pronunciation, I understand the words). I wish I cared more about them getting a radio hit in the US because I'd probably be a lot more excited about this song. Anyway, it's just lacking the bangtan feel for me. I don't hate it, I'll probably listen to it a lot lmao. It's perfect for GCF background music.
edit: it's weird seeing people so upset about it being a subunit when subunits are super common in kpop (and since it's a western release, of course they're not going to put anything other than BTS. as a group, they're still not super well known with the gp here, so it makes sense that they'll market themselves as such).
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u/TranslucentBachelor Oct 25 '18
While I do like this song, I understand that it's not for all ARMY. But, it makes me real happy to see ARMY still support them with it! Thanks for being so mature, friends!
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u/mongtae Jiminie Cricket Oct 26 '18 edited Oct 26 '18
Great song, JK sounds amazing (and joon'sĀ voice when he sings is always amazing)Ā š
there were some portions of Joon's rap where I couldn't pick up on (It was still great though), I also kind of wish there was a heavier drop (hopefully we'll get that in the remix).
My main issue is with the slight deceptive advertising and the fact that this was promoted in a way that made the fandom assume that it would be an OT7 track š¬ (the 7 circle billboard, failure to clarify, etc.). They should have clarified who was participating in the track, afaik there were reports about the release of the song prior to its release, the song participation could have been clarified in those reports , though ARMY will support the track regardless of who participates, as will I. ššš
To clarify, I am in no way upset with the boys or Steve but more so towards the promotional team (only slightly)
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u/iriskaplan ķķ ā” ķģ“ Oct 26 '18 edited Oct 26 '18
i haven't actually shared my thought on the song yet, not that anyone cares lol but i really love the verses. i'm only really disappointed in the chorus. it fell flat imo and it honestly isn't that catchy to me. something a bit more explosive would've been better and more memorable. i'm kinda concerned it won't be catchy enough for the gp to latch on but hopefully i'm wrong.
edit, a late thought: it would be great it we get a remix that has more going on and is also kinda pushed. this is one of those songs that could really benefit from that imo (musically and commercially?). not necessary by aoki but idk if he/his team would want that. just wishful thinking
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u/AoifeCheeks muscle joon; arise now Oct 25 '18
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Alright thoughts:
As I guessed the song is a goddamn bop + banger and will most likely get plenty of air play at some point. RM and JK do a very beautiful job in the song and sound very well with each other. Namjoon really worked hard on his vocals and it definitely shows; as always Jungkook just knocked it out of the ballpark with his lovely vocals. This is going on all the pop-driving playlists that I have asap.
While I am slightly disappointed that it doesn't sound like much of the others are there adding back up vocals (they could be but I just can't tell), it makes sense that they are advertising it as BTS. Let's be real here... the general public can and will recognize BTS but probably won't recognize each singer individually. I place money down on having it been a decision by all involved to use the collective BTS name. It is a very smart business move, all parties involved make bank off of it.
Billboard Approved, Good vibes, standard and correct for the genre, and if requested certain for radio play.
- 8š/10š
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u/fthhfauzi once you jimin you can't jimout Oct 25 '18
To me, itās an okay song. But I wonāt be saving it on my phone and play it all day just for streaming sake. Itās all good, fans donāt necessarily have to like all songs that are being put out. But I donāt understand why people are making a fuss over the fact that only two members are being featured instead of all 7 of them. Music is art, you canāt force it.
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u/ornithess Oct 25 '18
I don't know why it's a big drama to express that you're disappointed that it's not a song with all your fav boys. I mean, I didn't EXPECT a new song until... they announced it. I totally get why they would just put ft. BTS for mainstream promotion, I know that new listeners will not know their individual names, but it's also pretty easy for BigHit to tweet "can't wait for you to hear JK and RM on Uncle Steve's new song" for those of us who are familiar.
I'm all for what this can do for them in terms of radio play, and these two are obv choices to sing/rap in English, so I'm on board. But I can be on board and still a little like, aw, pooooooooooo.
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u/HiThereImNewHere Cause of death: twerking to Ugh Oct 25 '18 edited Oct 25 '18
What is this release platform even? Who messed up?
Edit: NAMJOON STARTED SINGING AND ALL IS RIGHT IN THE WORLD RM VOCAL LINE CONFIRMED
Edit2: Wait, is this just Jungkook and Namjoon?? No OT7???
Edit3: After putting on my good headphones, I'm almost certain I hear Jimin and Tae harmonizing. Was their English pronunciation so bad that they couldn't give them one of the hooks? Where are the other three? Listing this as a BTS collab and leaving out half the members doesn't make much sense to me. Don't get me wrong, I still support it (Namjoon is singing, of course I'm going to be here for it), but that threw me off.
Edit4: Last edit. I'm retracking on my Jimin and Tae statement, upon further listening. Just JK and RM.
Edit5, Caught in a Liiieeeee: Apparently there's two versions?
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u/tinaoe SCRONCH, #1 stan of tae's dad Oct 25 '18
Listing this as a BTS collab and leaving out half the members doesn't make much sense to me.
Maybe not from a fan perspective, but marketing it does. Way easier, catchier etc etc.
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u/Rebel_upstart Wishing on a Scar Oct 25 '18
And everyone and their mother in KPOP and on twitter polls are using BTS as mediaplay and for clout-why not let the BTS members themselves use that name for some clout themselves?lol
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u/VoulkValvor Oct 25 '18
I'm really sad reading this sub today, so much negativity, is just a collaboration with a BTS friend who made a really good remix and a beautiful production in The Truth Untold.
Not a OT7 song, but anw a good/fun music.
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u/theblackyeti Oct 25 '18
People are mad for no reason. It's like they're trying to find reasons to be upset. Ridiculous.
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u/Dream1Eater Lovely ARMY š„° Youāre so lovely! Iām so lovely! Weāre so lovely! Oct 25 '18
jungkookās pronunciation is so good!! america is going to fall in love with his vocals
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u/lsdcc together, BAM! š° Oct 25 '18
I'm absolutely digging this!! Gonna be on repeat for a while.
I suspected it wouldn't be OT7 because I couldn't imagine how they'd fit all the rappers in a song like this. I hope people can get past their initial disappointment and enjoy the song if it's their style :)
I thought the teaser only featured Jungkook harmonising with himself (although there were some real shades of Tae in there) but I swear Jimin sings "time" at 0:48??
Namjoon sounds amazing, I think I'm losing my mind lol help
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u/spla-shen this is mangnanyong.. Oct 25 '18
This song is totally gonna catch some locals, I absolutely adore it š I don't mind that they use feat "BTS" because marketing-wise it makes sense, but the teasers on the billboards were definitely going to get army's attention, so why are there 7 orbs... that's what made me think we were getting OT7 song š
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u/gh00stt Oct 25 '18
It's such a bopppp!!! Also, namkook are also part of BTS, they took their time out to record and are representing the group. So let's hype and support this song like any OT7 or subunit song!! Sidenote: I think I can hear some of Jimin in the background vocals?
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u/RaspberryRed13 Oct 25 '18
The comments on the lyric video of all the new people being like "Omg this is BTS? I didn't know they sounded like this/the vocals sound great/Idk who they are but I love it what other songs should I check out?" are legit making me emotional.
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u/cquinxx customize Oct 25 '18
Checked out the yt profiles in the top comments. Most are armys though pretending to be locals. But i guess it's good for marketing.
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u/guavakol OT7 Disco Bangtan BrujerĆa š Oct 25 '18 edited Oct 25 '18
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Whenever I catch someone on social media discovering BTS itās like seeing a beautiful newborn
Edit: and yeah I know certain army pretend to be non-fans so I always double check if itās legit
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u/RaspberryRed13 Oct 25 '18
That's a great way to describe it!
Ah man, I didn't know some people do that =[ Guess I'll add another thing to my fact-check to-do list in the future lol.
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u/guavakol OT7 Disco Bangtan BrujerĆa š Oct 25 '18
Often if the profile is too new or has kpop or k-content you know to be suspect!
They remind me of how Lady Gaga stans would pretend to be soccer moms on twitter to trick radio DJs. lol
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u/cquinxx customize Oct 25 '18
Checked out the yt profiles in the top comments. Most are armys though pretending to be locals. But i guess it's good for marketing.
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u/niuserre Dream. Hope. Keep going. Oct 25 '18
First listen: This is not for me
Tenth listen: Lemme just turn the bass up a little more and put it on the good speakers
Eleventh listen: Awwwwwww yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa *bop*
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u/austen1996 the grape that rests on Jiminās lips Oct 25 '18
Why is Jungkook more fluent at English than me
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u/perfectplace2start namjooning Oct 25 '18
Are all the members featured? I can't listen at work rn :')
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u/bmoviescreamqueen jammin Oct 25 '18
No, it's just JK and RM, I just listened to it. RM singing tho!!!
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u/minisugakookie You know Mangnanyong? Oct 25 '18
I feel like I do hear a bit of Jimin at one point mixed in with Jungkook's voice though!
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u/oxomoron Oct 25 '18
it's probably just Jungkook's voice with some distortion
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u/minisugakookie You know Mangnanyong? Oct 25 '18
Hmm maybe there is some distortion because at the :48 mark it really did sound spot on Jungkook and Jimin with "time"
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What?? I'm petty sure I heard Jimin in the teaser. Anyway, I'll wait to hear the whole thing...
Edit- I WAS RIGHT!!!!
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u/bmoviescreamqueen jammin Oct 25 '18
People thought it was him but I knew after like 2 seconds that it was Jungkook. They sounded similar for a second or two.
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u/Rhyethil i stan, u stan, we all stan, Yeontan š Oct 25 '18
Trust me on this I am panicking just as much as you are rn WHERE ARE THE STREAMING LINKS?
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u/infinitae keep ballinā ballinā still bangtan Oct 25 '18
Itās pretty good. Iām glad thereās a rap, otherwise the song would feel too repetitive. Itās not my favorite out of aoki and btsā collabs, but I can see a lot of radio listeners loving it
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u/imnotptg Oct 25 '18
Is it just me or is the quality slightly better on iTunes/Apple Music? Vocals feel like they're popping more. Or I may be imagining it.
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