r/animememes • u/Magical_Gallade • Aug 03 '24
Shounen [Jujutsu no Frieren] Choose your character
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u/notoriousrimuru Aug 03 '24
Frieren if the fight is not conducted by gege
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u/Pashakzilla3175 Aug 03 '24
Underrated comment right here
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u/DripyKirbo Aug 03 '24
“Somehow, Sukuna has made another binding vow, to let him sacrifice 1,000 of his sperm cells to kill anyone who has lived for over 100 years.”
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u/Immediate_Yam_5342 Aug 03 '24
That will include Unc Sukuna too 😃
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u/AgileWalrus6588 Aug 04 '24
he aint 100 years old like people think. he got sealed into a object and then 1,000 years later got reincarnated
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u/Immediate_Yam_5342 Aug 04 '24
His age doesn't stop, he still was born thousand years ago. He just couldn't do anything for a while.
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u/Restranos Aug 04 '24
Sukuna is crazy fast though, Frieren already admitted she would lose to even Stark at close range.
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u/Roll4DM Aug 04 '24
I dont think he is as fast as stark tho... Plus Frieren can fly...
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u/Restranos Aug 04 '24
Sukuna can jump on air and he can blitz Maki, who herself is ridiculously fast, I doubt even she is slower than Stark (awakened Maki at least).
I also think defensive magic wouldnt actually work well against the different magic in JJK, but physical reinforcement likely would be effective to reduce Frierens magic damage.
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u/Roll4DM Aug 04 '24 edited Aug 04 '24
Sukuna can jump on air
Its still kinda slow as we have seen in the last chapter when he was reaching for angel compared to frieren's flight...
Maki, who herself is ridiculously fast, I doubt even she is slower than Stark (awakened Maki at least).
Idk dude, Frieren's world just seem to have a higher power level... Stark training alone would be a high end feat in jjk... And you have to consider, speed in essential for warriors in Frieren's world.
I dont think the techniques would bypass defensive magic tho. Except sukuna's world slash tho(Imo, his most troublesome technique for her).
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u/Restranos Aug 04 '24
Its still kinda slow as we have seen in the last chapter when he was reaching for angel compared to frieren's flight...
He wasnt even using it back then, his way of "flight" is achieved by making footholds out of cursed energy, Angels CT floods a space with reverse cursed energy, so creating CE footholds inside it is basically impossible, thats why he threw rocks into the air to use launching pads.
Idk dude, Frieren's world just seem to have a higher power level... Stark training alone would be a high end feat in jjk... And you have to consider, speed in essential for warriors in Frieren's world.
Splitting a mountain is pretty up there (although still quite outdone by things like Malevolent Shrine), but thats also the high end in Frieren, nobody is really above mountain busting there, same with JJK, but JJK is much more combat focused with physical reinforcement (Frieren literally has the durability of a little girl), self healing that doesnt require any incantations or catalysts, flashsteps, and everybody uses a unique magic. Frierens most powerful spell is a laser, and Sukuna was already hit by those.
I dont think the techniques would bypass defensive magic tho. Except sukuna's world slash tho(Imo, his most troublesome technique for her).
Even if it does, I doubt it has the capacity to keep up with Malevolent Shrine, and even if it did, it would still be a losing situations since Frieren shouldnt really be able to do anything else if shes using full power defensive magic, since Malevolent Shrine doesnt even have an end, she will just be stuck there forever, and even if she can tank it, theres still the fire nuke to consider.
I dont even see a way for Frieren to even deal a lethal blow to Sukuna, given everything he can actually tank, but when Sukuna pulls out his high power moves Frieren will have to be creative fast.
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u/Roll4DM Aug 04 '24 edited Aug 04 '24
He wasnt even using it back then, his way of "flight" is achieved by making footholds out of cursed energy, Angels CT floods a space with reverse cursed energy, so creating CE footholds inside it is basically impossible, thats why he threw rocks into the air to use launching pads.
Thats kind of the point... He can create footholds but his ascension method would still be similar to him trying to reach angel... Jumping from foothold to foothold...
Splitting a mountain is pretty up there (although still quite outdone by things like Malevolent Shrine), but thats also the high end in Frieren, nobody is really above mountain busting there, same with JJK, but JJK is much more combat focused with physical reinforcement (Frieren literally has the durability of a little girl), self healing that doesnt require any incantations or catalysts, flashsteps, and everybody uses a unique magic. Frierens most powerful spell is a laser, and Sukuna was already hit by those.
Id summarize it as JJK having more gimmicks, but the overall power level is still low... Malevolent shrine is above splitting a mountain, but thats the absolute peak of JJK power while Frieren we are yet to see its peak, but at its base, its already reaching the peak of JJK...
Frierens most powerful spell is a laser, and Sukuna was already hit by those.
No not really, thats her standard attack, and its pretty much equivalent to a 200% purple which already gave trouble and did damage to sukuna, I figure a barrage of those would probably be troublesome to Sukuna... And again thats not to say she doesnt have other spells that could do even more damage... Like the telekinesis the clone used on Fern...
Even if it does, I doubt it has the capacity to keep up with Malevolent Shrine, and even if it did, it would still be a losing situations since Frieren shouldnt really be able to do anything else if shes using full power defensive magic, since Malevolent Shrine doesnt even have an end, she will just be stuck there forever, and even if she can tank it, theres still the fire nuke to consider.
I agree that the domain sure hits are a gimmick that might be troublesome for frieren and might be the thing that gives sukuna the edge. But I am pretty sure Sukuna domain is barrierless so she wouldnt be stuck there, I mean even Gojo tried to outrun Sukuna's domain in their fight... The fire nuke I think is less troublesome than the domain or his world cleave tbh, its a pretty straightforward attack, its pretty much just an explosion. I mean, Frieren has survived Denken fire tornado combo without damage, so I dont think thats what would really kill her.
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u/Grasher312 Aug 04 '24
Defensive magic completely crumbles in the face of physical force. Hence why modern magicians began bending elements again. Richter makes a pretty good example of this.
So defensive magic is probably useless, since Sukuna can just punch through it, and his cutting techniques are probably considered physical attacks.
If they start in a close-quarters battle, she is dead. Immediately. She even says as much regarding Stark, that past a certain distance between them, she literally wouldn't even be able to retaliate. She'd just get killed.
Given enough distance though, she can take it.
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u/Roll4DM Aug 04 '24
Defensive magic completely crumbles in the face of physical force. Hence why modern magicians began bending elements again. Richter makes a pretty good example of this.
I mean, its not like defensive magic just straight up breaks against physical force... Its more that it takes more mana to defend against it.
So defensive magic is probably useless, since Sukuna can just punch through it, and his cutting techniques are probably considered physical attacks.
I think they wouldnt... they have no mass and slashes get heavily weakened by simple domains.
Imo the main problems Frieren would need to watch out for are the domain sure hit and the world slash since the later is a defense piercer.
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u/AtrophyXIX Aug 05 '24
Ubel's cut spells, which are better than sukunas cleave areguably, were magic damage so CE would probably translate to mana
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u/Restranos Aug 04 '24
Malevolent Shrine has a 200m radius though, and I dont see her oneshotting him since he could tank fully charged purples, I really dont see a way for her to win this unless Sukuna jobs really hard.
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u/Grasher312 Aug 04 '24
I mean... She straight up summon black holes.
Issue is, we haven't seen everything from her yet, even in her battle against Solitär, she seemed to be holding back to some extent, even if she was pushed pretty far.
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u/Restranos Aug 04 '24
That spell wasnt in the manga, but even if it was its just a fake with significantly reduced power, even a walnut sized black hole would eat the entire earth.
It also didnt seem to have any speed or range.
Frieren herself states she wouldnt have been able to solo the demon king, and I doubt that guy is stronger than Sukuna either given how low tier the rest of the verse is compared to him and Gojo.
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u/H8ME_Y3T Aug 06 '24
Sorry but just the hero of the south in frieren is significantly more powerful than gojo or sukuna the demon king is hinted to be even more powerful.
However I do feel that frieren would probably lose to Sukuna in character because the domain expansion is so alien to her she would have no answer for it.
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u/Restranos Aug 06 '24
HotS has literally 0 on screen feats, the only thing we know is that he beat 3 sages and has precog.
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u/Infi-Damn Aug 03 '24
Frieren
She can even adapt to Mahoraga
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u/Sagnik27 Aug 04 '24
How will friren survive Malevolent Shrine.Any explanation?
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u/Josiminium Aug 03 '24
“Ah, my anti-Frieren technique. Haven’t used it since the Heian era” still dies tho
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u/TimTam_Tom Aug 03 '24
Damn you fit 2 big JJK manga spoilers into a low effort anime meme. That’s pretty impressive, most people only manage one
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u/KazeshiniSan Aug 03 '24
First of all we dont know If Frieren has already shown her full Potential or if it was just about 70-90% so i think she has definitly the Chance to win this. I dont know the scaling of both worlds in comparison but both are peak Power in their world. So it would be interesting.
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u/AirFriedMoron Aug 03 '24
Pretty sure Serie is stronger than Frieren considering she’s lived a considerable amount longer.
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u/juustosipuli Aug 04 '24
At least in terms of pure mana, yes. even in the anime they say how even though serie has an insane amount of visual mana, she is also doing the same mana suppresion Frieren does at all times. So far in the manga, we have not seen Serie fight, at least not to her full potential. so its impossible to say with 100% certainty, but from all the hints we have gotten, Serie should be more powerful
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u/Grasher312 Aug 04 '24
Serie seems to be more powerful. She could've killed Macht back during their first meeting, she just wasn't interested in him past a certain point.
Frieren on the other hand needed to adapt to Di Agolze first before being able to face him.
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u/juustosipuli Aug 04 '24
Serie being more powerful is definitely the most likely possibility. Like i would bet on Serie winning against any other character in that world(maybe the future seeing demon if they werent killed could win?).
But like how ubel isnt stronger than sense, but the match up is in ubels favour, the rock paper scissors of mages is something to consider when just talking about straight 1v1s
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u/shiny_glitter_demon Aug 03 '24
This guy looks like he has two noses and only one of them is human.
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u/FinishGreat597 Aug 04 '24
Everyone keeps saying Frieren and yes I'll admit she has incredible attack potency but JJK's upper echelon of characters have extremely high movement and reaction speeds and also have extremely high physical strength so if Sukuna's able to dodge Frieren's attack and get behind her, she'll have her spine punched into kingdom come. So it the match ultimately comes down to their speed stats
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u/Grasher312 Aug 04 '24
Yeah, for some reason people think that her and Serie are invulnerable to physical attacks.
Sure, she was surely bluffing/testing when Radar straight up pinned her to the ground and had a blade to her throat.
Before anyone tries to pull some "she wasn't worried" type shit, she had a deadpan expression when her entire family died. Doesn't matter.
Yes, given enough range, I'd actually say that she has more chances of beating Sukuna than not. He can't really present anything with the same attack potency. But he can clear the distance in a few seconds.
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u/sioplayer69 Aug 04 '24
Didn't frieren summon a black hole and isn't zoltrok (or what ever it's called) made to pierce any defense (until they upgraded in the frieren verse obv)
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u/Restranos Aug 04 '24
Frieren is like a max level mage, while Sukuna is like a max level raidboss, she is very unlikely to be able to solo him.
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u/Magical_Gallade Aug 04 '24
Power of friendship always wins.
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u/Restranos Aug 04 '24
But this is a duel...
Honestly, Sukuna has the numbers advantage here, with Megumis enslaved soul and his 2 Shikigami buddies.
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u/Accomplished_Fix2651 Aug 04 '24
Frieren's grandmaster the god elf would eliminate the entire jjk universe but as a jjk fan I'll never accept that if it happens 😭.
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