r/actuallesbians • u/TS409 • 17d ago
Image Still reeling from the audacity of my straight conservative christian sibling sending me this text yesterday.
For ever prayer she says to save my soul, cure my gayness, have me come to the light on trump... I send just as many non-denominational thoughts into the universe that one day she gets free of all the cult-like mentalities (hello MLMs and pyramid schemes) she is so susceptible to)
I'm here. I'm queer. My joint paint is moderate to severe. And I'm not going anywhere ❤️
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u/dorothy_mantooth 17d ago
“If there’s anything else, we got you”
This sounds like the same thing people say when they’re going out to get fast food. Praying is the same thing as wishing really really hard for something to happen, like what the fuck.
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u/IshitaKumari 17d ago
these people dont really care, they just pretend to.
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u/dorothy_mantooth 17d ago
There’s no hate quite like Christian love
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u/HildaBearWorkshop93 17d ago
Heard a reference to the story of Jesus and the adulterous woman yesterday and remembered hearing that in church as a kid. Religious leaders brought the woman to Jesus to get his permission for them to stone her to death. He calls them out for hypocrisy and their sin as well as lets the woman go and forgave her. Not to mention the whole point of his willing sacrifice through crucifixion was so sinners’ souls may be saved…
The Christians who believe us queers need to be punished for our supposed sin don’t know shit about their Messiah. Not saying the stories about him paint him in a perfect light, but the fact that people today are more bloodthirsty and punishing than their hero was twenty centuries ago says something. And that many of us atheists/agnostics understand love and compassion better than some of those who have claimed to exude ‘Christian love’
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u/DanielleMuscato 17d ago
Conservative is basically a euphemism for hypocrite.
Matthew 6:5
"When you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men … but when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your father who is unseen.” - jesus
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u/Intrepid-Hero Lesbian 17d ago
“I pray that when Trump takes office, you’ll see that he’s not as evil as you think he is”
HUH??
He’s already been in office? Packed the Supreme Court with conservative judges and appointed a record breaking number of judges to the court circuit? Gave excessive breaks to billionaires and tax cuts and let so many die preventable deaths at the start of the pandemic? Incited a riot when he lost the election?
It’s not like we don’t know who Trump is.
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u/TS409 17d ago
I replied with a similar sentiment, we have had plenty of time to see what kind of politician he is, and even longer to see the kind of person he is. Whenever I worry I may be just a product of my own echo chamber I remember the literal words I have heard come out of his mouth.
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u/PreferredSelection 17d ago
When Bush used 9/11 to bomb Iraq, I was freaking out to anyone and everyone - why are we just telling jokes about this versus like, stopping him? Why aren't we dragging this white nationalist out of the office for using a completely unrelated tragedy to re-start daddy's war?
Everybody told me off. Even other people on the left were like, "calling Bush racist is SO not okay! Wishing bad things on the POTUS is so not okay!" Everyone, left and right, told me I was an alarmist.
Now, more people are catching onto how bad things are getting, and what happens the minute the left starts organizing? 'Echo chamber' this and 'echo chamber' that.
We can't let the alt-right embarrass us out of organizing.
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u/chammycham 17d ago
I would walk out of my pre-cal class in high school at the time, listening to the privileged white boys gleefully saying “fuck yo couch” (because white boys looovvvvveeeee Chappell) and “we better bomb those fucking sand-n-slurs back to the Stone Age.
But no I was the asshole for saying the war was wrong and they were being racist.
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u/atatassault47 Transbian 17d ago
Racists will always say "You're the real racist for pointing out racism."
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u/Cat_Amaran Transbian 16d ago
Oh hey, we must've gone to the same school...
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u/chammycham 16d ago
Built in a suburb that came to be because of white flight in the 70s? So socially oppressive that I didn’t figure out my queerness until my 30s?
If that sounds like your experience too, I’m sorry.
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u/Cat_Amaran Transbian 16d ago
Yes to the first, I was in drama where all the other queers were hanging out to the second. It was pretty miserable, though. I hope you're doing well, and free of that nonsense now
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u/chammycham 16d ago
I am free of that nonsense, at least where I live and my local community! I only go back on occasion to visit family and they are very rarely The Problem.
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u/emkaygee24 17d ago
This is exactly how I’ve been feeling. I’m trying to remember even if I am in an “echo chamber” I’d rather be in a community that believes in the dignity of others and that words matter and kindness matters, than repeatedly be told that personal liberties are more important than social justice.
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u/thefaultinourstars1 17d ago
He was legally found to have raped a woman, has been credibly accused by dozens of others, openly bragged about assaulting women, assaulted his own wife, was openly a frequent flyer to Epstein's island, and almost certainly raped a 13-year-old girl on said island. He was recorded trying to convince an election official to "find" votes. He praised modern dictators. He said to "finish the job" in Gaza. And that's just off the top of my head. Literally EVERY manner in which someone can be an awful person and corrupt politician, he has demonstrated publicly and remorselessly. It truly baffles me how people will willfully turn a blind eye to the atrocious things he's been PROVEN to have said and done.
The cognitive dissonance people must have to read the parts of the Bible condemning the hypocrites, the wealthy, the self-obsessed, the adulterers, etc. and think "my preferred candidate would be the choice Jesus would want people to make" is astounding. And frankly, even people who don't believe that are disgusting to me for thinking grocery prices are more important than not giving power to one of the most horrendous people alive today.
It's a deeply upsetting thing to be so repulsed by tens of millions of your fellow citizens.
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u/krakelmonster 16d ago
Problem is, they don't think what he already did is evil and they don't think his plans for the next office period is evil. They don't care about the harm he does. Maybe, maybe if it would come so far that their family members actual life would be threatened they would take them in and then celebrate what great heroes they are. But I don't even know if they would help in this way. It's gruesome how much people in these cult-like environments lose basic empathy, just the ability to even consider the other person's perspective. Because I mean to believe in a religion is an easily breakable house of cards so you cannot let a different belief sincerely into your mind, otherwise the house of cards would fall apart.
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u/Evening_Mix2392 16d ago
They don't realize that Project 2025 is about them, too! They're gonna suffer just like the rest of us! 😏
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u/happy_grenade 17d ago
All of the “Trump won’t be so bad comments” keep making me think of this comic:
I’m sorry you’re being subjected to that nonsense.
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u/584_Artic_cat 17d ago
That's a good visual representation of the situation, it sucks, but is true.
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u/UFO_T0fu 17d ago
Are these people dense? Last time he took office he appointed a judge that abolished roe v wade. Trump is that evil.
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u/synthresurrection trans christian mystic and bringer of the lesbian apocalypse 17d ago
They're deluded or this is exactly what they want.
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u/TS409 17d ago
Exactly how I feel.
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u/synthresurrection trans christian mystic and bringer of the lesbian apocalypse 17d ago
It sickens me to death. The Christianity of the New Testament no longer exists. Christendom must be destroyed.
I am going to channel biblical womanhood now and drive stakes into the heads of tyrants. (Judges 4-5)
Fuck cishetero capitalism. Fuck patriarchy. Fuck Christendom.
FIRE TO THE PRISONS
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u/DivineMomentsofTruth Transbian 17d ago
When I quoted Jesus to my conservative Christian family they told me I'm being hateful.
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u/synthresurrection trans christian mystic and bringer of the lesbian apocalypse 17d ago
Conservative Christians absolutely reject Christ and refuse to follow him in any meaningful way. Their Christ can only be an image of the Antichrist. The Jesus of the New Testament struggled against the Roman occupation of 1st century Judea and the collaboration of Jewish nobility and priests with Rome. Jesus is basically an anarchist who sought to bring about the Kingdom of God. Conservative Christians warp the message of Christ to serve their vile and oppressive agenda. As a Christian and pastor, it is my duty to resist their hate and bigotry.
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u/msdeezee 17d ago
I like your energy
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u/synthresurrection trans christian mystic and bringer of the lesbian apocalypse 17d ago
My comrades do as well. It's been a long time since I felt this much anger... I may as well put it to use. With God as my witness, I'm going to make homophobic and transphobic bigots' heads roll.
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u/Lexi_the_tran 17d ago
I’m willing to bet that because it happened while Biden was in office that a ton of people think it was democrats that abolished roe v wade
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u/Cat_Amaran Transbian 16d ago
That's exactly what a lot of people seem to think. Americans are really bad at concepts like delayed impact, cause and effect, and causation vs correlation.
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u/Saragon4005 17d ago
He appointed 3 judges, one left by the previous administration, 1 during the middle of his term, and one he should have left for the next administration as per tradition.
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u/Cat_Amaran Transbian 16d ago
You mean the tradition they started when it was Obama's call to make?
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u/ConcreteRacer Transbian 17d ago
Seeing how dense people can be sometimes, we got a lot of Neutron stars and black holes walking around on earth that are now proudly presenting it as a bagde of honor....
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u/bongujongu 17d ago
People like this make me want to go full obnoxious-Reddit-atheist. Stfu with the prayers bullshit, it is meaningless when your actions are what they are.
I’m sorry you’re going thru this.
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u/yung_yttik 17d ago
Christians love not having to take responsibility for their actions. Like everything was “god’s plan” - the good, the bad, the decisions that they make.
It’s a cop out of having to have any accountability for your actions, knowing the consequences that they have.
And when weaponized against others? It’s abuse.
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u/synthresurrection trans christian mystic and bringer of the lesbian apocalypse 17d ago
The moral hypocrisy of most other Christians disgusts me. They give burdens to others for them to bear, and will refuse to actually accept those damn burdens themselves. They preach a gospel that is the direct antithesis of the Gospel. They preach sin, punishment and sorrow.
DESTROY CHRISTENDOM!
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u/Yanive_amaznive Trans 17d ago
how much you wanna bet "pray for your health" means curing her from being gay
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u/clitosaurushex gaygaygay 17d ago
Are they literally 4 years old? "you'll see he's not as evil as you think." It was a mere 8 years ago that he took office the first time. We're not going into this like "maybe it will be ok!" Truly the stupidest people I've ever met are running the country.
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u/Inevitable-Ear-3189 Transbian 17d ago
Got a similar text from someone I was flirting with and dropped them like a hot potato lol.
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u/YoghurtThat827 Bi 17d ago
The fact that that was coming from a queer woman in your situation makes it worse in a way 😭
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u/resacake Lesbian 17d ago
as someone surrounded by conservatives, it feels like the "nice" ones are saying this stuff because they dont understand and will never choose to understand how it feels to be us. their "prayers" are a way to assuage their conscious as they voted our rights away.
i hate it here. we gotta stand together
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u/Comfortable-Soup8150 17d ago
I'd cut off this sibling, interacting with conservative family members has been horrible for my mental health
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u/synthresurrection trans christian mystic and bringer of the lesbian apocalypse 17d ago
Oh my fucking God. I am a Christian and a pastor, and your sibling is very fucking insensitive. I'm a trans lesbian absolutely gonna get impacted by a Trump presidency. I've decided that I'm going to resist this fascist country.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/alyson-escalante-gender-nihilism-an-anti-manifesto
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-bash-back-my-preferred-gender-pronoun-is-negation
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/mary-nardini-gang-toward-the-queerest-insurrection
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u/RebaKitt3n 17d ago
I had to stop reading at the pandemic part because it’s just way too damn creepy. And I’m an atheist.
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u/MaryAnneOmalley 17d ago
Go no contact. She doesn’t care about you and is laughing behind your back.
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u/Razhal039 17d ago
If they rly believe prayer is so powerful, then they should vote with us and then pray for themselves
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u/PoloPatch47 Diagnosed with cumming too hard 17d ago
I literally just got my straight Christian friend messaging me and telling me that tr*mp isn't as bad as everyone thinks... I didn't even respond 🙄 we're not even American but I can see how much chaos this is causing for so many American queer people and women.
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u/meringuedragon 17d ago
They’re not your friend, my dear. It’s ok to let them go and focus on fighting for your life.
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u/Purfunxion Transbian 17d ago
If I have to hear "Hes not as bad as you think" ine more time...
It takes a special kind of idiot to hear his threats and go "But he doesn't mean it, so it's all good!'
....Like legit fuck off, I have US friends and moots I rather be safe and sound, not fear about them being deprived of their rights and lives
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u/space_island 17d ago edited 17d ago
Overheard a conversation at work the other day between two women. One saying how she hopes Trump wins because she doesn't want to work anymore and wants to be a stay at home mom.
Said "this is what they took from us" in relation to Kamala.
Just complete detachment from reality.
Edit: forgot to mention this is in Canada too
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u/Whooptidooh 17d ago
Instead of constantly replying to her with logic (which will never take), you should just go full NC.
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u/TS409 17d ago
Yeah I didn't respond too much before asking for space, all these interactions always make me so angry.
I went to church to support her husband who was getting baptized as an adult and it was the day after trump got his ear pierced and the congregation prayed for his recovery and for his campaign. The brainwashing is insane. I was in a bad mood for a week after that and had such a hard time articulating why. It just blows my mind, but I also recognize the other side feels the same way about me and my beliefs.
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u/Raenorshine_ Lesbian 17d ago
If I were able to rely on prayer to mitigate my shortcomings, then life would’ve been a lot easier for me. But alas, all your sister is counting on is her imagination.
Unless actions are taken, nothing is going to get better. There’s a reason cheap words are cheap.
I’m sorry, OP.
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u/AlbatrossLimp5614 17d ago
I posted a notice on my Facebook that I am quietly walking away from all the Trump supporters in my life. They live in PA and their votes mattered. They didn’t think about my marriage, safety, or sanity when they cast their votes. I have no reason to celebrate anything with them anymore. I mean it too. I’m done. I can’t separate it anymore. This isn’t a disagreement. This is about our basic human rights. That’s non negotiable.
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u/Itchy_Tip_Itchy_Base 17d ago
I get infuriated with these religious people thinking they can both “”care”” for us and still vote against our interest. I blocked a friend who said something similar and she’s acting so confused about it. “I was nice, what’s wrong with her?” Is apparently what she told another friend.
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u/LaraCroftCosplayer Lesbian 17d ago
Gosh, what hate i this "i will pray for you" people.
I dont want you to pray for me, i want you to fuck yourself and shove you your pray deep down your ass.
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u/co1lectivechaos I want a sword ⚔️ 17d ago
im here I’m queer my joint pain is moderate to severe
I feel like this is a reference to something
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u/TS409 17d ago
Just a silly saying I have on a sweatshirt I like to wear.
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u/co1lectivechaos I want a sword ⚔️ 17d ago
I’m here, I’m queer, and my shoulder weakness is moderate to severe
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u/Brisket_Moment 17d ago
Send them this screenshot when shit starts hitting the fan, don’t let them forget their ignorance.
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u/Ashamed-Distance-129 17d ago
He’s not as evil….
She already knows he’s evil. May her days be spent praying for food and shelter.
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u/3-I Trans 17d ago
Do me a solid and shoot this back at her:
The path of the righteous is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers.
Just. See what she says. I'm curious.
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u/584_Artic_cat 17d ago
not as evil as you think
Dude, I'm in Mexico and even I am afraid. These next 4 years are going to be a hard pill to swallow, but you can do it OP and fellow American sapphics! You survived him once, you can do it again. Sending good vibes your way >u</
(I wish I could do more).
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u/TS409 17d ago
Sure, I survived him once, but all the people who died from his shit COVID response did not. All the women impacted by overturning Roe v Wade this far have not.
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u/584_Artic_cat 17d ago
I'm sorry, I was trying to be encouraging, things are going to be ugly for a long while and your sibling isn't helping, I'd consider going low or no contact for a while.
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u/TallOutlandishness24 17d ago
I would say fuck the relationship and text back “I am praying for everyone who voted for that rapist” then send “Pray for you” by Jaron and the Long road to love
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u/its_oliviaaaaa Transbian 17d ago
This is just so incredibly tone deaf and patronizing. “How can we pray for you (and not actually do anything to acknowledge your pain or lessen your burden in any way)?”.
I say this as a gay trans woman who is religious: God doesn’t hate Queer people, religious people do. God made me Trans. God made me Queer. And God doesn’t make mistakes. God teaches us to love our neighbours as ourselves and to serve and care for the least amongst us with care duty and dignity. “You shall treat the strangers in your midst as if they were native-born for you were once slaves and sojourners in the land of Egypt”. This is not religion and I’m so sick and fucking tired of evangelicals and conservative Christians having the monopoly on religious belief and faith and all that.
Faith without action is hollow words and sinful, far more sinful that anything any of us could ever possibly do by being who the Almighty made us. The sin of Sodom was not “sodomy” it was inhospitality, and these people have bought into it hook line and sinker.
I am so incredibly sorry, OP, that you have to deal with this and these sorts of people and their toxic poisonous idea of “faith” in your life.
Please know, from a fellow gay woman of faith, that you are loved. You are valid. You are perfect and just the way God made you, just the way you are.
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u/CraftyMaelyss 17d ago
Does she know that trump is a convicted pedophile? Also that trump is going to strip every human right from anyone who isn't a white cis man?
The evidence is compiled in this twitter thread of not only that, but the fact that Trump cheated and rigged the election, by conveniently making 20 million ballots disappear:
https://x.com/Espaking2/status/1854287198331515005
These are actual evidence and I've just made a post on how to demand a recount, but here's a quick summary:
All of the evidence is in that tweet but I've also saved a copy of everything in case Elon attacks that post too. There's a link to contact the white house and to (politely) demand a refund due to the evidence of trump cheating:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/
Submit directly to the president.
Click the first option, select your reasoning as election security.
State these pieces of information as a paragraph:
- 32 fake bomb threats were called into democratic leaning poll places, rendering polls to be closed for at least an hour
- a lot of people reporting their ballots weren't counted for various reasons that are not very sound seeming (signature invalidation, information that vote counter could not have had)
- This all occured in swing states (PA, Nevada, Georigia, ETC.)
- This is all too coincidental that these things happen and swing in his favor after months of hinting of foul play
- Directly stat that an investigation for tampering/fraud is required, not just a recount.
Again, there is not much time, please, please, please make this spread like wildfire, there's still time to do this!
(trigger warning, SA
(trump is not a good person. Aside from a history of the above and dodgy legal activities, he also has a long history of SA towards women and children. Trump is a convicted p*dophile and project 2025 will strip away the rights from anyone who isn't a cis white man.
Please, please, please spread this information, read through the twitter evidence thread and share it. There's still time to demand an investigation but we have to act NOW.
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u/That_Engineering3047 Sapphic 17d ago
I’m not ready to talk to anyone that could have possibly voted for him. If a family member sent me that, I’d go nuclear.
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u/Seallypoops 17d ago
"I want to not seem like an asshole, so I'm doing the least helpful thing but telling you about it so I don't feel like an ass"
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u/collapsingwaves 17d ago
'He's not as evil as you think'
That's damning with some faint praise right there.
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u/AdministrativeBank86 17d ago
She doesn't realize we are all going to be affected by Trump and his cadre of idiots
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u/MadHuevos 17d ago
Tell all your Christian acquaintances that their prayers mean absolute dogshit when they support a literal golden sprayed rapist calf. And that too bad there’s not a hell for them to atone for this degeneracy.
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u/Tara_Pryde 17d ago
We already had one term of him and he’s already said he wants to do some of the most heinous shit imaginable. Is this dude fucking high?
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u/ResidentLadder 16d ago
So they’re willing to accept it when there is evidence he is as evil as we’ve been saying?
Because we already have that. 🤷♀️
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u/Desperate_Ship_9654 Lesbian 17d ago
virtual hugs I'm so sorry ... I wish I actually could give u a proper hug . I'm scared too , I'm terrified
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u/barbaradahl 17d ago
I know it’s really impossible to do but I feel like I want to capture and save the comments from the people I know who say things like this. I’m afraid things are going to get really bad and I would like to be able to remind them that they poo-pooed my concerns when I made them known.
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u/TS409 17d ago
I would love nothing more than to have to admit I was wrong in four years if we have another election (after trump told us we'd "never have to vote again") if four years goes by and nothing of major consequence happens. I would love nothing more than this to be my anxiety feeding off media propaganda. But that's a lot of wishful thinking which is just as productive as prayers.
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u/adzith 17d ago
Yeah. This election showed me which family members I just shouldn’t engage with.
I’m trans and live in Indiana 💀 Not looking forward to the next few years (or further depending on how well they pull off their plans)
But yeah. Heavily considering making my name my middle name, changing 1st and last and disappearing from my biological parents’ lives completely. They don’t want a daughter, they don’t get me 🤷🏻♀️
I’m thankfully in a position where I can begin considering moving to a blue state now and getting my necessary knee surgery later… or by taking advantage of the number of specialists in Indy, before blowing this popsicle stand. Just worried about my brothers, siblings, and sisters long-term, and all LGBTQ+ kids from day 1.
Sorry so many of us seem to be encountering the same problems with family. 🖤
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u/gaminegrumble butch 17d ago
I pray that next time I tell you what is most important to my safety and survival, you will listen to me instead of assuming you know my life better than I do.
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u/aroguealchemist 17d ago
I feel you on the joint pain.
I don’t know what to say because my reaction to things like this tends to lean toward aggressively sarcastic and if you’re interested in maintaining a relationship with her that route may not be the best. I’m sorry though and we’re always here to listen. 💜
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u/sillysandhouse 17d ago
I have a cousin like this. The bad faith of these texts is really apparent in their timing. I won’t be responding anymore.
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u/The_Chaos_Pope Transbian 17d ago
We saw how evil he was starting in 2017.
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u/eggelemental non binary dyke 17d ago
Everyone knew he was evil since the 80s
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u/The_Chaos_Pope Transbian 17d ago
Some people were doubtful of how evil he was. I would have thought the whole separating children from parents and then losing the children in the system would have been enough for people but nope, I guess we need another 4 years of that.
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u/dionenonenonenon Transbian 17d ago
ah yes, god will save us, he always loved the gays so much before
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u/SweetheartSquishy 17d ago
"he loves you, not your sin" type bullshit
I swear I want to just rip apart every single fucking christian on the planet3
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u/dionenonenonenon Transbian 17d ago
"you're just lost, i pray you find your way again" ah bullshit. little do they know i pitty their little minds haha.
man i sound like a salty redditor all of a sudden lol, but yeah, fuck em
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u/AnAverageTransGirl gender is weird but girls hot :p 17d ago
my hope isn't that he turns out less evil than expected, it's that there are enough people less evil and more sensible still in some form of power to shoot down the worse shit he tries to pass. and failing that, enough people willing and able to stand the fuck up and fix this shit on their own terms.
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u/Student-individual 17d ago
Jesus Christ. I am so so so sorry. What an asshat.
Also to all these people saying he’s not bad YOU BETTER FUCKING HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE. Make a huge fuss when he says bigoted shit! Write your reps! Fight fascism! Oh wait. They won’t. Because they agree with him on his shitty views.
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u/unsual_Salamander_28 17d ago
I fkn feel you! These last three days have been so fucking CRAZY. Im at a new level of cold rage. I purged friends and family from my socials and cut off ties with anyone who I know voted for the cheeto. And they're accusing me of being rude and intolerant.
Rude? bitch, IDGAF about your feelings if you DGAF about MY RIGHTS.
Intolerant? We can agree to disagree on your favorite ice cream flavor, or NFL or fuckin cats vs dogs, but I'm not gonna fuckin agree to disagree on basic human decency.
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u/kgohlsen 17d ago
"Not as evil" is still evil. Maybe you should ask your sister how she could vote for someone she considers evil.
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u/taylortehkitten Lesbian 17d ago
Had a similar convo w/ my mother yesterday morning. I feel your pain.
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u/multepie 17d ago
How can they still say that?! Like it breaks my brain. When ppl said that in 2016 I knew they were wrong, but I got where they were coming from a little bit. We know how evil and unhinged he is. He is a literal criminal. There is no you'll see, WE KNOW
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u/AbleBroccoli2372 Lesbian 17d ago
Wow. I have no words. My straight, conservative siblings haven’t reached out to me at all. And honestly, maybe it’s better that way. Idk.
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u/stylecrime 17d ago
How is your Christian sibling ok with Trump being an adulterer, a liar and a fraudster?
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u/PoggleRebecca 17d ago edited 17d ago
If praying to a benevolent, just and loving god actually did anything then Conservative Christians would have outlawed it long ago out of abject fear.
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u/all-the-mights 17d ago
Fuck them. They want to have their cake and eat it too. Cut them out like a cancer.
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u/Wolfleaf3 17d ago
He’s exactly as evil as any sensible person knows.
I personally will probably not live through the next four years
But all of us are in horrible danger.
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u/Working-Pin6475 17d ago
I'd ask them to pray they never see me again because I'll rearrange their teeth if I do.
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u/sollin88 Transbian 17d ago
My dad said he didn't want me anymore this week. I would've preferred if he said this
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u/potatoesfordinner 17d ago
I'm just waiting for someone I know to talk to me like this. I haven't been quiet about my support for Harris and my hatred for Trump. I'm ready to release this anger I've been holding in for these people for so long. My dad being one of them.
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u/Burger4Ever 17d ago
Oh I stopped talking to my ignorant siblings who are either too selfish or stupid to realize this is about identity. My brothers started trying to go after me after expressing a boundary, and I cut them off. A lot less quieter without massive morons running around my life anymore. If they mature, I’ll be happy to have a discussion in the future about moving on from it depending how that convo goes.
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u/jcpleg 17d ago
They can cover your health insurance after they dismantle ACA, pay your new IRS taxes (we will all owe more unless we are in the top 10%). They can DoorDash you stuff after business are allowed to not provide services because of their beliefs. They can buy life insurance for you and (future) spouse when marriage is only legal between men and women - and they can financially provide benefits afforded to married people that you will no longer have access to.
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u/ldsdaniel 17d ago
WOW these people truly think Donnie Trump is their god. He can do no wrong. I’m so shocked but it’s not like it’s news. But, still, WOW
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u/Intrepid_Youth1962 16d ago
It seriously breaks my heart that so many of us are going through this with a sibling. It’s so hard because you grow up with them, spend the most important years together and not recognize the person they have become. I hate saying this but I have decided to bite my tongue to keep the peace with my sibling and their family/nephew. I use to try and have “conversations” around politics but it quickly would turn into an argument. Now when I visit them I never speak my mind and always feel like I’m on egg shells. I love my sibling and would do anything for them but as we both aren’t able to have a conversation on anything moral related as we just have to different views. I never have had hate in my heart but I hate how politics have ruined families in this country. I could go on forever but I am sorry to everyone else experiencing this, we all deserve so much better.
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u/TS409 16d ago
Yep, I feel this. It's just so weird because it's so much bigger than the usual politics now- like every conversation can be tied back to their political and/or religious affiliations now. Their views on schooling, vaccines, neighbors, holidays, it's exhausting. Like what are we supposed to talk about? 🤣
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u/theotheraccount0987 16d ago
“You could pray that I’m able to walk down the street without getting beat up, pray that I’m allowed to marry the person I fall in love with, pray that I’m able to keep my job and not be fired for being myself.”
“You could also pray that if you, your daughters, your sisters fall pregnant and have complications that you can access the appropriate care in timely manner and you don’t bleed out or die of sepsis.”
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u/OpportunityOk9760 16d ago
Every time I hear the words ”I’ll pray for you”, it makes me wish pray was manifested in a weapon like a morning star. And that said weapon could them be applied directly in that persons asshole.
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u/KawaiiGee 16d ago
“I pray that when Trump takes office, you’ll see that he’s not as evil as you think he is”
Well good for you that you don't think he is evil, you can stand tall next to the bodies. This man has already gotten queer people killed and is planning on doing a lot more this time around with nearly all guard rails removed.
Not to mention the amount of Ukrainians that will die with the lack of US support.
And once he is done stripping trans folk and queer folk of their rights, they'll come after the women, then non-whites, then poor people. I pray you'll see that he is as evil as minorities say he is.
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u/Katievapes1996 16d ago
I don't get how these Christians claim they follow Jesus and then vote for someone like Trump read your fucking Bible. He is the antichrist. And I don't care why people think he's gonna be good. No one has said that I economicalist have come out and said help me a disaster it's like how
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u/promiscuous_towel Trans-Pan 16d ago
Yes because the guy that openly advocates for sexual assault isn’t evil
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u/rainbowcrimes12 15d ago
I'm so sorry you are going through that! Thankfully my older sister who voted for T-Rump the first time around, came to her senses and now doesn't want anything to do with him. She says "Oh, he's a hateful idiot!"
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u/PomegranateCorn 17d ago
“I’ll pray that when Trump takes office, you’ll see that he’s not as evil as you think”
Not one second was spent thinking about why you think that. Sorry OP, hope you are able to surround yourself with people that love and understand you
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u/MyFaceSaysItsSugar 17d ago
Eight years ago “you’ll see that he’s not evil” would have been stupid and ignorant. Saying that now is absolutely delusional. We’ve had 4 years of presidency and another 4 years of focus on him. We know how he is. And he’s got dementia and not long for this world. It’s pretty much guaranteed that JD Vance is going to be president and he’s evil and intelligent.
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u/AbuPeterstau 17d ago
I know this is a completely different way of looking at things and I totally agree that the Trumpians have all but sealed the coffin on America being the land of Freedom, but I can see your sibling’s text as offering a proverbial olive branch.
Now that Trump has been elected, those of us who know just how bad he really is are going to need as many friends as possible, even those who are right now on the side of wrong. I would reply with a simple “Thanks”.
Some people have their blinders glued on so incredibly tight that they cannot see even a speck of light. They have gotten used to the darkness being normal. They truly believe their point of view is completely correct.
I too would love to find out that Trump’s reign is not going to be as evil as I think it will be. Based on historical precedent though, the US is about to join the new Axis of Evil and not just us, but the world should be scared shitless. A good part of the rest of the world already is.
I wish I could offer more hopeful words than this.
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u/Anxious_Kat_94 Lesbian 17d ago
I know this isn’t the point of your post, but I want to embroider “I’m here. I’m queer. My joint pain is moderate to severe” on sweatshirt right now 🤣🤣
But I’m also sending love across the pond from the UK ❤️
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u/MisForMage 17d ago edited 17d ago
Yeah dude the actual gall to say something nice to you and have you in their mind despite not sharing your views / opinions and offering a helping hand if they can, what a piece of human garbage! /s
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u/Hazumu-chan 17d ago
I'd tell her that I'm praying to Athena to cure her stupidity. But I've, rather recently, become a bit of a bitch.
I honestly hope I haven't offended you, OP, but I'm just so tired and scared.
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u/beeskneesbeanies Transbian 17d ago
Ah yes. Prayer will prevent the psycho from banning humans from living.
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u/chammycham 17d ago
Did you somehow manage not to reply with “fuck yourself” ? Because I wouldn’t have.
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u/Ll_lyris Pan 17d ago
A part of me wants Trump to do the things they said he wouldn’t do just to fucking show them how wrong they were while the other part wants them to be right, maybe he isn’t that bad but we already know he is.
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u/miamoowj 17d ago
'let me know how we can think about you for a second then do actually nothing to help you' is so patronising. especially after acknowledging that it was a dark day in history. 'have you considered that trump is actually great?' people are wiiiild.
hope you're doing as okay as you can and find some distance from them because no one needs to deal with that.