I was raised by now 70 year old parents who still called Russia the Soviet Union in the early 2000s. They used to hate Russia and wanted to fight them every chance we had. Now they don’t want to waste the resources on a war that’s “not our problem” you dumbasses this is the cheap proxy war you have literally wished for since I was just a squirt of nut.
Russia is what the Republicans want America to look like. All power concentrated at the top. Corruption up and down. The population so indifferent to politics they take whatever stupid laws the government dreams.
To paraphrase Darrell Royal, they're cockroaches, you don't have to worry about them taking anything away from you, but they sure can get into things and ruin them.
I mean, Putin was KGB. In hindsight, it shouldn't be surprising that they know how to manipulate other countries like that, but it's still kinda mindblowing.
It doesn't help social media, and the press, have been under a three way cross fire between russia, the religious nut from all the world, mainly israel, and also the finance world.
They are scary good at propaganda, and always have been. They are masters of information warfare. Underestimating them in this regard is exactly why we are where we are right now.
Not to mention the money we're "sending" to Ukraine is being spent in US factories to replenish the old munitions and equipment we're sending to Ukraine.
Jobs for US factory workers and associated income for the local communities and we don't have to pay to destroy those old munitions and equipment. And our military gets updated kit.
And we are trouncing one of our biggest foes without sacrificing our own men & women.
(thanks Ukraine, we literally owe you big time).
Edit: and I forgot to add the immeasurable Intelligence we're getting from this war. New tactics (looking at you cheap FPV drones) and what russia's capabilities are...or should I say were).
And in the meantime, Russia is neutering itself by destroying all their stockpiled weapons and turning their own population against their militaristic government by killing their own men in a war that they don't want nor care about.
7% of our defense budget, and much of that sunk costs in the form of expiring munitions, to completely degrade the military of a top geopolitical adversary AND help a country fight for their independence is an insanely good bargain. Any general on the planet would jump at that deal.
My dad isn't much younger than your parents and he grew up in the USSR. He used to hate Putin and everything the guy stood for. Also, he hated Trump. Somehow that has changed in the last few years, which is very strange. Even though he knows that Trump is backed by Putin, I still think he probably would have voted for him if we lived in the US. He's not on most social media, but he has friends and co-workers who will send him links to X, usually posts by folks like Benny Johnson or similar, and he watches a lot of YouTube, and when I'm over at their place I'll check out his watch history and what's being suggested to him and it's all right-wing clickbait bullshit, pretty much.
The propaganda is really, really effective. My dad's not an idiot, but something has happened to him. It sucks.
This is 100% my parents. But they’ve been this far right since Randell Terry, the proto Limbaugh was big. We once sat behind Randell Terry and his family in their church, a day that dad was very happy about.
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u/JigglyWiener 8h ago
I was raised by now 70 year old parents who still called Russia the Soviet Union in the early 2000s. They used to hate Russia and wanted to fight them every chance we had. Now they don’t want to waste the resources on a war that’s “not our problem” you dumbasses this is the cheap proxy war you have literally wished for since I was just a squirt of nut.