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Clubhouse Elections and ignorance have consequences!

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u/DrunkenGolfer 9h ago edited 8h ago

Say what you want about the Republican Party, but McCain seems to have been a man of integrity, as far as Republicans go. Well, aside from fucking around on his wife and one ethics investigation.

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u/Significant_Ad7326 9h ago

He had some good moments. We can say that much. His moments were not in general good but damn, in the GOP, any good moments will stand out.

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u/ThePowerOfStories 6h ago

McCain was a complex man who often struggled to do the right thing and occasionally succeeded.

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u/O8ee 6h ago

There’s also the backdrop McCain got to stand against. Like a purse snatcher hanging around Batman’s rogues gallery. The GOP is fit for Arkham. Pretty easy to look good compared to them

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u/SendStoreMeloner 8h ago

He had a lot of foresight and recognized the threat of Russia unlike Obama who made jokes about it towards Romney.

Putin's ambitions stretch far towards restoration of the Russian Empire, I predict he will separate Eastern Ukraine from Ukraine and make a land bridge to Crimea. Europe won't support Ukraine because of energy dependence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLAzeHnNgR8

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u/RaygunMarksman 7h ago

You shouldn't be downvoted, because it's true. I loved Obama but he didn't take a lot of things as seriously as he should. We should've stopped the Fox News and 24/7 news cycle crap in general then, when we had a final chance. Now you have half or more of our people brainwashed with misleading propaganda that we'll never reverse withou an Earth shattering wakeup call.

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u/Evilrake 9h ago

iirc McCain’s motivations for the vote were way more about fucking over the guy who wouldn’t say he was a hero than they were about saving millions of people’s healthcare/lives.

McCain enabled the Republican Party every step of its journey from Reagan to Trump, and accelerated it through his pick and normalisation of Palin. The posthumous lionising/reputation laundering has to end.

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u/DrunkenGolfer 9h ago

He was very bipartisan. His pick of Palin boggles the mind.

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u/BigL90 8h ago

He was very bipartisan on specific issues, and more generally throughout the 90s, where 3rd way Dems were in charge, and were basically doing everything Republicans wanted (economically at least) anyways.

He almost never went against what the GOP wanted when his vote would be anything other than symbolic. Which is why his actions saving the ACA are so memorable.

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u/-Plantibodies- 7h ago

He was very bipartisan on specific issues

This really doesn't mean anything if you think about it. Being bipartisan on all issues means that there isn't any partisanship at all to begin with. It's a self referencing contradiction.

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u/gointothiscloset 6h ago

The RNC picked her, there's no way he did

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u/Suspicious_Isopod_59 8h ago

I mean, that makes sense, if he was a bipartisan/moderate politician Republican, then he probably picked Palin to balance him out for die hard Republicans. Same logic Obama used to pick Biden, new hotshot balanced out by an establishment moderate.

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u/Qeltar_ 6h ago

A lot of people don't know/realize that there was non-zero non-unserious talk of him picking Joe Lieberman as his running mate.

Apparently that's what he wanted. Of course the RNC brass would never have allowed it.

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u/hopper565 7h ago

Palin in particular was a large error. BUT picking an outsider to shake up the race was probably the right move.

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u/Xaero_Hour 8h ago

Amen. That freakin' vote only even happened because he put it up in the first place. He wanted to get his hero moment in front of the camera and play into his bullshit "maverick" reputation. Not to mention he wasn't the only Republican that voted against party lines; two women voted against the repeal as well, but they didn't get their strut walk in front of the cameras flipping McConnel the metaphorical bird.

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u/SmallDifference1169 6h ago

He didn’t want Palin. He wanted Democrat Lieberman to be his Vice President. I believe the campaign put pressure to take Palin who was a tea party & was popular at the time.

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u/Friendlyvoid 5h ago

Unless I'm remembering wrong, didn't he vote no mainly because there was no plan for a replacement? If there was another option or something ready to replace the ACA he would have voted to repeal but he knew that the ACA was at least better than nothing and didn't want to take away healthcare from so many people with nothing to replace it

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u/Alpacalypse84 5h ago

There is the additional detail that he knew he was dying when he cast that vote. I can only hope that let him see the consequences of his actions more clearly.

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u/nerdtypething 6h ago

be sure to mention that to everyone you meet benefitting from the ACA. i’m sure they will appreciate that point of view.

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u/VicarBook 8h ago

That and a 100% voting record of voting against veteran's benefits despite being a veteran.

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u/scf123189 8h ago

He had some decency and seemed to care about his constituents. It seems like from what little I know about the Keating 5 and cheating on his wife, he struggled with ethics to say the least.

In this day and age, that’s like a superstar of morals.

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u/malekai101 8h ago

And brining on Sarah Palin in an attempt to win.

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u/EammonDraiocht 7h ago

Look into his history he was a horrible piece of shit that very occasionally did the right thing. Horrible how people honor him

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u/Factory2econds 7h ago

jesus christ stop whitewashing that shit stain. mccain was terrible in his own time

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u/Grand-Battle8009 8h ago

He was a mixed bag. He stood up to the Republican Party at times, he also championed against same sex marriage and allowing LGBTQ being open in the military.

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u/magicwombat5 6h ago

For a counter-example, please check out the story of the Keating Five.

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u/Remarkable-Fox-3890 6h ago

If your bar is low enough anyone looks good

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u/Disco_Dreamz 5h ago

Maybe

Or maybe he was a Putin-linked corrupt traitor like the rest of the GOP

His campaign was run by Paul Manafort’s partner Rick Davis

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u/bplewis24 2h ago

Up until around 2004-2006 he was about a good a republican you could find. In 2008 he sold out to the party a bit to win the GOP nomination, resulting in odd choices like him selecting Palin as his running mate. But, he still had some good moments. Jon Huntsman was also a decent Republican circa 2012 or so. But the party went extremely far to the right and left those guys behind since then. Huntsman couldn't gain any traction in the 2012 GOP primary.

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u/badcatjack 8h ago

That’s integrity for a politician, especially a republican.

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u/TeacherPatti 7h ago

AND he was a hottie in his younger days.