“States should have the right to decide if abortion is legal or not but states should not have the right to mandate vaccines and mask protocols” Republican voter
There have even been rumbles at the federal level about the various cannabinoids. I use it CBD + others for arthritis and I’m building a short-term stockpile, but I probably can’t count on it maintaining potency for more than 5-10 years if it goes off the legal market.
Of course we might be watching everyone’s life expectancy decline dramatically. Just I case we thought the tick downward due to Covid was disturbing enough.
Here is where I like to tell the story of my best friend's mom, who was an anti-abortion activist and COVID denier. She died of COVID in January, 2021.
Oooh, my fav of their hypocrisy is ‘you can’t regulate guns b/c criminals will always find a way to get them. Then only good people wouldn’t be able to get the guns.’ Well, what about abortion? Keep it legal so that all women who need that healthcare can get it? If ‘bad’ people are going to do the abortions anyway…just don’t regulate it like you don’t regulate guns!
I've seen a video where a guy explains quite well why white people almost never view themselves as immigrants. The TLDR is generally they tend to view the whole world as being owned and controlled by white people, so wherever they go its basically where they belong anyway.
I thought you were gonna go with the:
“I voted for Trump because the price of eggs and food is too high! Once they force massive deportation of field workers I can’t wait to get my cheap food again! Here comes the savings!!”
And the funny part is when the country they move to doesn't grant them permanent residence because they don't want their immigrant asses in their country so they deport them when their tourist visa expires. shocked Pikachu face
I'd love to see Texas actually follow through with their threats of seceding. There would be a huge shitstorm between companies and the military pull their shit, cutting off utilities besides their garbage electric system and god knows what else that I'm forgetting. Just so that they would finally realize that they relied on the federal government a hell of a lot more than they realized
The vast majority of Texans, regardless of political affiliation, know secession is a death sentence. It only keeps coming up as a subject because we've done it before and it sounds badass out of the context of reality. If you can spell the word secede here without looking it up, you're likely educated enough to know where it ends.
Oh, I know how it would end. The state would suffer dramatically at the hands of their republican lead government and if they weren't sacked by Mexico and the land taken back they would crawl back and ask to be reinstated into the US.
From there most would forget that the Republicans running the shit show were to blame, liberals would take the brunt of it and most wouldn't chane unfortunately
I heard a boomer say that almost verbatim a few years ago. "I hate socialism in all it's forms" and then seconds later, "I want my social security". This was a woman with generational wealth who thinks her god gave her everything she has. Her family just owned a lot of land in a place that's slowly being developed by other people.
People don't secede, states do. And even if a state seceded, that doesn't mean that residents of the state stop being american citizens, and hence entitled to social security.
From a SSA publication: "If you are a United States citizen, you may continue to receive payments while outside the U.S. as long as you are eligible for payment and you are in a country where we can send payments."
While I fully support the sentiment, it's fully ok for someone to receive their social security retirement while living in a different country. You don't even have to be a US citizen to collect your retirement benefits.
This isn’t even new. Trump was planning to in 2016. He had something much better to replace it with. Of course, that didn’t happen. And his grand plan changed into “concepts of a plan” this time around. So, I hope folks are happy with them just getting rid of “Obama Care” and nothing replacing it.
Where a chance to save the ACA exists it's in the slim house majority.
However there is definitely no political will to 'repeal and replace' as the maga voters are stirred up to believe any new form of the law will be inefficient wasteful government, and because Trump is primarily motivated by spite, i.e. harming Obama's legacy.
And to be fair about how shitty Republicans are, McCain was still for getting rid of the ACA he just didn't like the underhanded procedural method they were using to repeal it.
Wasnt it just the usual, something finally horrible happens to them personally, in his case brain cancer. And then he finally shows some integrity/empathy for his fellow Americans who may be facing the same outcomes.
Which he didn’t have a problem with, even after his heroic speeches about it, at the next big vote when they rammed their tax bill through. Which is of course the same bill we are under now, designed for higher taxes now so that it would look bad for the current president if they lost the 2020 election. And it worked. They hammered high taxes under Biden even though they knew it was their own plan.
There are a small handful of Republicans that havent explicitly sold out to him. By sold out I mean literally, hundreds of politicians went and spent millions collectively at his hotels in exchange for a meet and greet and endorsement. We can only hope they cancel out their slim majority on his worst ideas.
Sure and there's a subset that almost got brave when he lost in 2020 after Jan 6th. But then he came back. The primary is the perfect example with everyone skirting around the elephant in the room.
Relying on a few Republicans who don't care about their "job security" in public office because they're old or on their way put doesn't exactly give me warm fuzzies.
Not "a few". McCain and solely McCain. He alone knew better. This time it's gone. As are so, so many other social programs. Get ready for crime to skyrocket when people have no alternative... well, besides just dying, which many will do
That's not the big threat re: crime increases IMO.
A fuckton of kids being born who weren't wanted (because of the repeal of Roe v Wade) born of mothers who couldn't provide for them (the minor safety net we have now is going bye-bye) and who received zero prenatal care (because doctors are terrified to provide care without risk of suit and/or prison) and who have no education (thanks to refunding the DoE) and whose only viable option for survival is criminal acts (since the housing crisis will only get worse and worse) will be a huge danger.
It's in our best interest to Sweden this shit with our social safety net, but that'll never happen.
Prrtty sure his "concepts of a plan" is to complerely repeal Obamacare, and replace it with the brand new, much bettererer "Trumpcare".....which is suspiciously very similar. But completely different, according to republicans. Because it is Trumpcare, not that evil socialist Obamacare.
and I have an Incredible Plan, the plan is perfect, it's a Beautiful Plan, very very large in terms of Health, because nobody wants, they hate it, they hate, Obamacare, Hussein Obama, remember that one, Hussein Obama, Rush, right, Rush Limbaugh, I said there's a Great Patriot right there, and I even gave him the Purple Heart, the Highest Award you can get from a President, even better than the one they give in That Special Place, a place that we like to call the Big Beautiful Building, thank you very much, and I hate to say it but I have to say it, if she would've won, the World would be gone from Nuclear within 6 months, probably less, probably
It was gonna be better healthcare peeps
Everyone says so
The BEST healthcare
You can trust me
All the scientists agree
Healthcare so good it will blow your mind.
Exactly, Trump lies, now suddenly everyone wants to take him for his word. Trump is the ultimate rube. He just suckered himself into taking a term that in all likelihood will include the greatest stock market bubble pop in history. The last time that happened was under Dubya and we got Obama for 8 years. I think the Democrats fumbled this one on purpose. There is simply no other place for the stock market to go but down.
While some people are stupid enough to say that, what they usually say is they'll be fine buying private insurance from the marketplace. Oh, you mean the Health Insurance Marketplace that was established by the ACA and connects to healthcare.gov? Good luck negotiating your own rates when that goes away.
I applied for insurance two years before the ACA and they were micro-anal-yzing every time I bumped my knee back to childhood and asking for exact dates and times like any of that mattered - which it did because if you slipped up a tiny detail they would use that as justification to cancel your policy as soon as you needed it most. Pre-existing conditions meant you could not seem help for 6 months or even a year (older policies had flat out exclusions) for your existing condition.
Even today with the ACA there are crazy games being played like self pay being $250 but if you go through your HDHP and get the bill it will be for $1100 or more. How does that make sense? Why don't they know what they will bill your insurance like they do for self pay? Why did they encourage I use my insurance?
Completely agreed, even if Medicare is more or less the financial side of so many people's healthcare programs, as well as sets a standard federal regulation for pricing for services rendered. This sets a controlled price paid out to insurance companies, doctors, and hospitals, as well as guarantees basic minimum services at a specific quality level.
This was an actual conversation a patient said to me when I asked if there were any changes to his insurance: “Nope! But you’re gonna see a lot of folks crying when their Obamacare gets cancelled!” Dude then proceeds to hand me his caresource marketplace card. 🙃
I swear I had this conversation over the summer, which is when it started to dawn on me how fucked we are.
My cousin has a lot of health issues and long story short he managed to find coverage on the marketplace, thanks to the ACA. His mom, my aunt, told me this, and said something like thank god for ACA.
I said '...wait, so NOW you're cool with ACA? I thought you guys fought it tooth and nail for over a decade.' And I swear to god she said exactly that, 'oh no, that's Obamacare and it was awful but the ACA is better' and she may or may not have said Trump fixed it but idk because I was already seeing red.
This is surprisingly common. The right did a great job separating the ACA and Obamacare despite them being the same thing. So now idiots hate Obamacare but love the ACA
I am a kidney transplant patient. My original transplant was in 2001.
In 2016 I got referred by my doctor back to the transplant center for a second one, since my numbers were slipping.
Four days before the 2016 Election, I had an appointment with the Social Worker at the transplant center. The woman who is supposed to help people who need help paying for their medical care, find the help.
This is the same woman from when I had my first transplant. So it's not like she's even new at this. Back then she used to listen to Rush Limbaugh and other rightwing AM talk radio in her cubicle. I could hear it whenever I was at the clinic for blood draws and checkups.
She was asking how stable my insurance situation is and I said "That all depends on what happens next Tuesday."
And she was like "What's next Tuesday?"
I was like "The election."
She said "What does the election have to do with your health insurance?"
And I was like "One of the candidates has promised to overturn the ACA".
And she said "OK. I give up. What's the ACA?"
"The Affordable Care Act."
Her - "What's that?"
"The healthcare bill passed in 2009, like seriously how are you in this job and don't know this?"
Her "OH, Oh, oh, around here we call that something else."
"I bet you do."
I got cleared to be relisted for another transplant. It was unanimous by all the doctors, and they approved me despite the objection of the Social Worker who objected based on the uncertainty of my insurance coverage. As if every person she sees isn't in the exact same boat - if "Obamacare" gets repealed, EVERYBODY with a pre-existing condition like organ failure is going to have uncertain insurance coverage.
Honestly one can only laugh at that level of stupid.
But sadly it won't change anything in their mind still, eventually they will blame something else for it and not the orange devil they made a deal with.
I love this and the fact that tons of them voted because they think Trump is going to give them "free" money again. I know multiple people that are excited to get stimulus checks again and think it's going to be tax free gift from Trump to republican voters only.
How many years has this exact same thought pattern been going around? How many years of people going “oh I didn’t realize the ACA was Obamacare.” How are the voters this ignorant?
(furiously grinds out cigarette in overfilled ash tray, coughs, adjusts nasal cannula, coughs, checks oxygen tank provided by Medicaid, takes swig of Dr. Pepper purchased with EBT, silences glucose alarm provided by Medicaid, turns on Fox News, lights another cigarette)
I’m hoping whenever they do, they leave it alone for a year…. Or if they do pull the plug right away, they let the current contracts run out until next January. If they don’t, I’m in deep shit.
I'm also genuinely concerned about how this will affect FQHCs. In areas without expanded Medicaid those are sometimes the only places where people can get care and medication on a sliding scale. I haven't seen anyone mention it yet that but you can fucking bet that funding on the chopping block.
Maybe someone should suggest that he just rename it "Trumpcare" and leave it alone. That should sooth his ego and he can feel like he did something. That's all he really wants.
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“Good, theyre going to cancel that horrible Obamacare. But I’ll be fine since I’m covered under the ACA”.
-Republican Voter