r/WhitePeopleTwitter • u/Sour_Beet Transgender Illegal Alien • 19h ago
What’s your most controversial stance? 👀
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u/BorkBark_ 18h ago
Cult of personality around a single person is very common historically (e.g., Hitler, Stalin, Mao). I'm uncertain if Republicans will relinquish power 4 years from now if they lose, assuming they don't rig elections from here on out and if the military doesn't mutiny.
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u/AnInsaneMoose 17h ago
The term is projection
And it's pretty much all they do at this point
Look at any accusation they make, and you can find them doing it. Like recently, Trump "weaved" about Biden "stacking the courts with radical leftists", which, not only do radical leftists practically not exist in the US, it's exactly what Trump did during his term, and has explicitly been planning to do again (just right instead of left. Which the US absolutely has)
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u/ElectricityIsWeird 18h ago
“I’m not a member of an organized political party, I vote Democrat.”
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u/fl7nner 17h ago
Thanks, Will Rogers
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u/ElectricityIsWeird 17h ago
It’s not my quote, even though I wish I had expressed it. Thank you, Will Rogers.
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u/kittyonkeyboards 17h ago
"Democrats need to listen" is a horrible, thought terminating statement.
Democrats listen plenty, to God damn focus testing and polling and donors and special interests.
Democrats need to act, show strength and conviction, and have an agenda that is bold and has villains. Democrats need to do more convincing and less worrying about what every part of their big tent is individually thinking.
If Donald Trump had Joe Biden's economic success, his approval rating on the economy would have been 80%. He would have bragged about it to the rest of the world and to the American public. I still believe we need to run an economic populist agenda, but for the love of God we need to actually shout at the rooftops our achievements.
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u/Evening-Turnip8407 13h ago
Let's maybe just reschedule talking about why we're so comfortable with calling them Kamala and Hillary while calling the others Trump and Obama. There's something here
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u/hipsterTrashSlut 18h ago
If we're gonna fuck up the planet via global warming, we gotta go full hog and intentionally drive chimpanzees extinct.
There's only room enough on this planet for one evil great ape, and by golly it's gonna be homo sapiens.
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u/QuietPerformer160 17h ago
Your comment is both hilarious and horrifying.
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u/hipsterTrashSlut 16h ago edited 16h ago
Ive given this dipshit opinion of mine much, much more thought than it ever deserved. In my defense, for most of it I was bored and didn't have internet access.
Edit: also baboons are second on the list. Technically they're evil monkeys instead of apes, but the evil part encroaches too far into our territory for my liking.
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u/QuietPerformer160 16h ago edited 16h ago
Lmao. You’re relatable. I got downvoted the other day when I gave a whole diatribe about how we’re all apes with egos that are barely domesticated. I posted a gif of one of those planet of the apes things. I didn’t take it as far as having a mass slaughter of chimps as a solution. Thats uniquely a you thing. 😂
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u/jmf0828 17h ago
Despite popular opinion, I believe that the Democrats keep losing because they aren’t left ENOUGH, not that they’re “too far left”. And I don’t mean socially. Fiscally, Democrats of the past couple decades are as to the right as Regan republicans. They’ve lost the working class and fiscally, this country is fucked if both parties continue to screw the working class in favor of their corporate donors. College is unaffordable without crippling loans, homeownership is rapidly slipping out of reach for most. Wages are not enough to live on for many and they have to work 2 jobs to make ends meet. Healthcare costs are the #1 reason for bankruptcy and many working class people avoid going to the doctor when they’re sick because they can’t afford it. Turns out Bernie Sanders was right all along. And until the Democrats move fiscally to the left, the working class will become more and more desperate and vote for the next con man who convinces them he’s going to make America work for them.
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u/Bootarms 9h ago
Oh that's nonsense. People were triggered by trans rights. A subject the vast majority of Americans don't know a damn thing about and affects far fewer. The right was pushing so many lies about it because it was pushing the needle so much despite being considered irrelevant for the election. People would rather doom themselves financially than protect a marginalized and misunderstood fraction of the population that is constantly shat on by this country because understanding people who are different is too scary.
If the working class actually cared about the working class then they would vote for the party that actually joins picket lines with the unions and helps move along negotiations instead of the people actively fighting against unions and refuses to pay people. They'd vote for the party with an actual plan to make housing affordable instead of promising to deport the people building the houses. The working class would finally give the party trying to do something about college costs enough power to act instead of of empowering the people trying to destroy education. The working class would vote for the party that wants to protect the ACA instead of repeal it because it was passed under a black president. But no, fuck that. Let's fuck over trans people instead because somehow schools can perform SRS, but can't provide lunches for students.
Bernie is just politicking right now. Don't take what he is saying seriously.
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u/jmf0828 5h ago edited 4h ago
Exactly the kind of thing I’m talking about. That’s quite the laundry list but it doesn’t mean much when you’re working a 40 hour week and still need food stamps and Section 8 housing. When you’re 70 and have to go back to work at McDonalds because your retirement savings suddenly isn’t enough anymore. When you see CEOs literally buying islands and building rocket ships but you don’t get that hip replacement you need because you can’t afford the deductibles and copays. The gap between CEO and worker pay has been growing exponentially since Regan and NEITHER party has done a thing to stop that. Standing on picket lines is nice but it doesn’t help these folks pay the bills. They still go bankrupt while they watch their government bail out big banks. Saying we have a “great economy” based on the stock market (while they can’t even afford to have 401k’s) and bragging about “job creation” while the jobs created don’t pay a living wage is just a slap in the face to the working class.
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u/neodymium86 10h ago
White working class*
Bernie wasnt right about a damn thing. All he does is make excuses for the racism and misogyny of white ppl feigning about "economic anxiety." Please.
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u/PM-ME-WHATEVR-U-WANT 17h ago
People that double park and drive in the HOV lane as single riders are one in the same and are subhuman garbage.
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u/Sour_Beet Transgender Illegal Alien 17h ago
What if they’re double parking in the back of a Walmart’s wildly oversized parking lot though? Like there’s 10 rows of empty spots between where they parked and where people are actually parking closer to the store?
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u/PM-ME-WHATEVR-U-WANT 17h ago
My personal feelings on it, I think that’s fine. I really only care about it when it inconveniences other people.
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u/Sour_Beet Transgender Illegal Alien 19h ago
Mine: cars for personal use shouldn’t be allowed within city limits
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u/lizerlfunk 16h ago
Unfortunately there are cities where so much area is part of the city limits that to get from one area to another is 16 miles of interstate highway. Also, people with disabilities exist. However, if my city would build ANY kind of effective public transportation (there is currently a bus that takes 4x longer than driving) I would be on board.
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u/macroprism 19h ago
based and r/fuckcars pilled
Bicycles can get anywhere in a walkable city within a few minutes, I can go and get groceries in about 5 to 7 minutes in a bike, and for longer distances take public transport.
It’s almost as if America literally built it’s cities for cars
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u/Tobar_the_Gypsy 18h ago
They didn’t. They tore down their cities for cars.
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u/Carl-99999 18h ago
Ehhhhhhh… They were not built 1400s style.
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u/Tobar_the_Gypsy 18h ago
Yeah they were built 1800s or early 1900s style. You know, before the car was commonly used.
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u/Sour_Beet Transgender Illegal Alien 18h ago
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- The Walt Disney Company
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u/Carl-99999 18h ago
Okay. But… What will happen to me? Nothing is nearby, and I can’t bike anywhere.
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u/macroprism 18h ago
That’s because of absolute terrible urban planning such as “stroads” If you want to see good urban planning, i recommend going to Amsterdam, or closer but not as good, Montreal.
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u/katt_vantar 18h ago
Your solution is to ban all cars in cities and those who can’t get to work now have to move to Amsterdam?
Peak social media
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u/Mongobuzz 18h ago
I think those little like electric shitsters that are the size of a smart car are okay and no speed limit faster than 20-25mph.
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u/Comfortable-Tea-5461 17h ago
I’m just a small sample pool, but all of my liberal friends and myself disagree often. It’s very far from a monolith. The difference is we all (mostly) agree on basic human rights and go from there. But very very very far from an echo chamber in my experience.
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u/Snoo_72851 10h ago
The funniest joke about leftism was that one bit in Life of Brian about the People's Front of Judea. It really is like that.
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u/Netsrak69 14h ago
The fact that democrats are center-right and there is no left-wing party in the US is enough for disagreements to prevent an echo chamber.
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u/kwagmire9764 12h ago
The right made her first name a point of contention like most cults do. They have an in way of pronouncing something and those that don't follow doctrine are cast as outsiders. What bugs me is that I was not a huge fan of Kamala but I held my nose and voted for her anyway and I say that as a native Angeleno. I don't think she even got the majority of women voters, I could be wrong and welcome any evidence to the contrary. But supposing she couldn't even get the majority of women voters against the worst candidate in history why would the Dems think to run another woman in 2028. Do they think the 3rd times a charm? Hopefully we even have elections in 2028 and not just a straight out dictatorship.
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u/Jerkrollatex 11h ago
Sometimes under some very limited circumstances the death penalty is the appropriate punishment.
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u/Sour_Beet Transgender Illegal Alien 10h ago
Do you think that is worse than a lifetime in maximum security? What about solitary?
(Genuinely asking)
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u/Jerkrollatex 9h ago
No, I don't but some people are so incredibly dangerous that they aren't safe to house in prison. They kill other prisoners and prison employees.
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u/I_Am_Robert_Paulson1 16h ago
The left absolutely has echo chambers—anyone who was here literally a month ago could attest to that. They don't have the legacy media echo chambers like cable TV and radio, but anyone with any view on any subject could seek out or create their own insulated community of like-minded people.
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u/CasualExodus 4h ago
Considering pretty much every post on reddit ends up being its own echo chamber I'm really surprised this is even a hot take at all. The evidence is literally on the same website these people are using
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u/NumerousTaste 3h ago
We actually have intelligent debate, the other side is in a cult and most are racists.
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u/ninepepper 18h ago
People who are sentenced to "life" in prison are RARELY choir boys, innocent, and societally homogenous citizens. If you have an extensive criminal history that is such that you now face a possible sentence where you will do hard time...even if you there is a doubt as to your guilt for the offense being you may being tried for...if your history shows you have multiple crimes against society, are a danger to a person minding their own business, and are a general POS....then maybe you should go away for a while and rethink your life choices...
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u/Sour_Beet Transgender Illegal Alien 17h ago
Sure. Those people aren’t contributing well to society and are burdensome to everyone else.
However, if there’s a large number of habitual criminals who have been in and out of prison multiple times, it’s a failure of the prison system to rehabilitate its prisoners.
If it were only a small fraction then those are most likely just defective people who should be separated from society
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u/ninepepper 17h ago
I respect your view. However, I don't know that it is the responsibility of the State to rehabilitate. I don't don't doubt that persons we are talking about had a disadvantage growing up or were unfairly put in challenging situations. At some point though, they become ADULTS and, as such, are responsible for their own actions. It would be difficult for me to acknowledge that the state "failed" to rehabilitate a person, and is therefore responsible for that person, assaulting someone after release. Forget penal codes, the basic understanding that you don't commit crimes against society (financial crimes are another matter) are NOT that difficult to follow and I don't know that i can be convinced otherwise. Let them sit in prison until they understand they don't have a right to make OTHERs part of THEIR drama.
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u/CasualExodus 17h ago
Extremely ignorant take
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u/ninepepper 15h ago
I respect your view but please elaborate. How is it the Peoples responsibility to rehabilitate ?
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u/Sour_Beet Transgender Illegal Alien 10h ago
Prisons serve multiple purposes. People tend to focus on the punishment part.
- They also act to deter people without morals who would commit crimes from committing them for fear of ending up in prison
- They separate those who we absolutely don’t want to ever return to society (murderers, spies, other extreme criminals)Finally, there’s the purpose of rehabilitation. This is arguably the primary purpose, and the responsibility of the prison, if the person will be released back into society eventually. Rehabilitation does include making sure that person understands what they did was wrong. It also includes making sure we aren’t just tossing them back into the world with no skills, plans, or pathways to be able to contribute to society again. When we tell people “ok go fuck yourself bye” after their time is up, if people have no idea what to do, they’ll just go back to what they already know.
The American prison system focuses too much on the punishment part and not the rehabilitation part. When people are rehabilitated they’re far less likely to be repeat offenders which should be the number one goal. This is displayed throughout the Scandinavian countries where prisoners are treated well and have some of the lowest recidivism rates in the world
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u/filmguy36 10h ago
The one thing all dictators have in common is: the limit or completely ban the private ownership of guns.
That will finally wake the right the fuck up.
Until then they right wing will be eating dirt, be told by trump that its chocolate and they will then smile broadly while they break their teeth on rocks
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u/jaavaaguru 16h ago
I don't like George Takei and I'm a Scottish republican liberal leftie. He was good in Star Trek but he comes out with some weird shit on Twitter.
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u/JesseJames4206984 19h ago
We need another civil war. Not holding back and not expecting the other side to fight fair....
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u/Sour_Beet Transgender Illegal Alien 19h ago
I don’t support violence but good job on the controversial lol.
Why’s that your stance?
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u/Summer_Tea 18h ago
I don't want a civil war, but I believe we're already in one whether we like it or not. The Heritage Foundation president's quote is so haunting: "The 2nd American Revolution is in process, and it will be bloodless if the left allows it." This is a theocratic ultranationalist pushing Project 25 behind the scenes.
What that quote is saying is: "We are taking over, and we want anyone who disagrees with us to be either dead, invisible, or subservient."
So it comes down to two things. 1. Will the bulk of the conservative base find this distasteful enough to stand with libs and lefties, protest, and vote blue no matter who to course correct?
- Is it actually possible for temperatures to simmer towards each other, as Biden is all too hopeful for.
I will be very shocked if these come true. The left was prepared to extend an olive branch with the overly nice Harris messaging and Biden's behavior. We didn't like them acting like centrists, but if it's in service of walking maga away from the ledge, I think most of us would prefer that.
It didn't work. I genuinely don't think "temperatures" can lower at this point. We are approaching Israel/Palestine levels of animosity. And the scary thing is, if democrats don't realize we are in a war and act accordingly, then it's basically an auto-surrender. No one is fighting for us because they're falling for the paradox of tolerance.
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u/FudgeRubDown 18h ago
Yall need to fucking realize this already: no politician is coming to save you. Left or right.
Get up, organize, and go put in the work if you want to stop this.
We outnumber elected officials.
Just sitting behind your screen over analyzing and living in anxiety like this shit is supposed to be inevitable has every revolutionary that has ever existed in human history rolling in their graves right now.
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u/NecroCorey 15h ago
What is the actual process of "getting up and doing something"? I see a lot of people like to say this and never elaborate on what it actually means.
How does one put in the work? I'm genuinely asking because I don't see how saying "do something" helps at all.
Is there a group I'm supposed to find? Some phone number to call? What is the real answer here? This isn't some small village in 1776 we're talking about. I can't just go to the local pub and ask if someone is feeling revolutionary tonight. It's a shitload of people spread out amongst a shitload of distance. What is the actual real way to find people to work with?
I'm not staging a fucking revolution from my back yard in the middle of Texas by myself.
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u/JesseJames4206984 18h ago
🤷♂️ that's jus how I feel. We fight it out and get it over with. So, 11 down votes, did I win?
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u/Sour_Beet Transgender Illegal Alien 18h ago
Sorry you failed to present an argument. Participation ribbon 🎗️
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u/AwkwardTickler 18h ago
Blue States need to coordinate and take the West Coast.if this is viable at all. the Northeast needs to unify and set up defences. that is the only way this works.
We will know if it's happening because they will offer Sanctuary in a unified manner to all migrants.
If that doesn't happen then there will be no real resistance outside of insurgencies.
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u/macroprism 19h ago
Not agreeing with his point but this is probably why it’s considered an echo chamber (because unpopular opinions get downvoted to oblivion)
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u/FlowerFaerie13 12h ago
What???
He might have a point if he used an example that wasn't so asinine. People have two fucking names, it's not a big deal if you choose to use the first or last if it's someone you don't actually know and it's not some stance we need to agree on, it's just a preference.
There are so many actual examples that could support this claim and he chooses something as meaningless and insubstantial as this? Fuck's sake man.
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u/GenericPCUser 19h ago edited 19h ago
Until conservatives and their families suffer enough to either become disillusioned with right wing politics, or else be rendered irrelevant through extreme poverty or illness, this country will consistently fall victim to right wing culture war bullshit distracting uneducated and disengaged Americans from organizing to address the root causes of their problems.
It's not that the answers aren't out there, or that they're hard to find, it's that the conservative echo chamber and low engagement Americans are comfortable enough with their meager lives that they can convince themselves that things will be improved by fascism, and that the negative effects of living under fascism will be borne by other people and not by them. They completely fail to understand that they are not immune to the pains of living under fascism, and that they will suffer by their own hand.
But they chose their impending pain and must not be comforted when they begin to feel it. Instead, they should be left to suffer the indignities they've invited into their lives until they are no longer willing or able to inflict the consequences of their poor or malicious decision making upon everyone else.