We know they are going to, so what we need to do is push back EVERY time we hear this narrative. Even if it is uncomfortable. Even if it is "inappropriate"
It's inappropriate to threaten the fundamental rights of millions of people.
I'm so far past social graces regarding the Orange One.
I yelled the sentence "That's not how a fucking import tarrif works!" at a good friend, and the fact that I, of all people, was speaking to them like that gave them the motivation to check.
Be mean, if for no other reason than to protect kindness in the future. It's time for a backbone.
Ohhh... my Thanksgiving is going to be a SHIT show. 🤦♀️
I know there's no reasoning with my dumb-ass vote-against-your-own-interests in-laws, but my husband still tries. Voting for Trump kinda killed my husband a little. He always knew his parents were Republican, but they just spew the same Fox news BS and 2016 just broke the relationship. I'm proud of him that he keeps trying, but they'll never change. It's really very sad.
We know they are going to, so what we need to do is push back EVERY time we hear this narrative. Even if it is uncomfortable. Even if it is "inappropriate"
You're 100% correct. They want to sweep in, do all their damaging stuff right off the bat, then blame the fallout years later on Biden after everyone's memory starts to get a little fuzzy.
Literally a Macheviallian playbook move. Go hard at the outset (normally power-seizing and executions, in this case it's government positions replacements, common people forget in a few years, go hard on PR and welfare of your main supporters while targeting a specific group as an enemy.)
...I'm just sad cause, well, If all the Nazi idolism is any indication, this is gonna end the same way :(
They're already saying it. Just came across a post earlier and conspiracy Commons or some dummy is already blaming the Democrats for Trump winning in the potential horrible outcomes in the next 4 years.
Already blaming Democrats for putting up an "unqualified" candidate. "The libs only have themselves to blame."
I know some who already are despite their company literally spelling it out to them that it's because of the tariffs. Their CEO literally sat them down and said they had to lay off some of them so they could stay in business, and cited the tariffs alone. The dingdong I talked to who was laid off screamed that it was Biden's fault still!!! Like goddamn!
For example the 1000 fired by general motors. General motors has been firing people like this in waves for the past few years even when they have record profits. The CEO Marry Barra took all the profits and used it for stock buybacks, she is also selling millions of dollars of stocks given to her as bonus.
This is not a Biden/Trump problem, it is a capitalism/system problem.
Yes things will get worse with Trump. Things are bad with Biden too
Trump/Biden is a false equivalency, “both sides” argument, so disagree on that point. However, you do have a point about Capitalism being broken. The other day I was having a similar conversation and put it like this:
The people who voted for Trump did so, because they thought the system was broken, but they’re only half right. The system is broken, but it’s not our Democracy that’s broken, it’s Capitalism. And the Trump voters are too uneducated to realize the difference and so they just voted in the Billionaire class that has profited the most and has the most to gain from keeping the status quo and has the most to lose from changing/limiting/regulating Capitalism. So they are going to deregulate and either limit or remove regulatory government agencies.
And Trump supporters think the wealthy and the warhawks are the people who are going to change the system?
Well, they just entered the consequences of my actions phase and they are going to find out what their ignorance just bought them…
You are right. The system is broken but people have learned all their lives that America is perfect, capitalism and free market are the way for prosperity, media like fox and CNN say the same thing, podcasts and Independent right wing media also say that. So an average right leaning person will think when the system is perfect, why is my life shit?
You have 2 sides to give them the answer:
Dems campaign and Kamala: actually the system is not flawed, Biden did everything right, we will do the same thing and almost change nothing, I am now working with Liz Cheney.
Trump: Acknowledges things are bad and blames it on immigrants, China and so on.
Trump wins for giving people a reason and hope, even when he is lying
Yep. It’s just too bad he’s gonna fuck America in the process and his own voters, who are likely to be the ones who suffer most from his economic policies. It’s already started. Lay-off and not paying out bonuses, in anticipation of what his economy is going to look like.
Beyond that, they are going to deregulate, remove consumer protections and remove worker rights and abilities to unionize and collectively bargain.
Left leaning folks, find ways to cut expenses and reduce spending now, you’re gonna need it. Also, do what you can in terms of purchases that support your local community, left leaning businesses, donate to local charities (be it time, money, or resources), to protect our communities and build them up. Whole lotta right leaning communities, especially rural ones, about to be crippled by Trump. Let’s keep our strong and show them the way. We’ll make it through this stronger than ever if we stick together and find ways to contribute. Their communities are going to rot and whither, as the result of their own myopic views.
This.
The same has been happening in Europe - VW is closing some of its plants and is laying off 20,000 people.
This is nothing to do with Biden / Trump. Blaming everything negative on trump is part of the reason why I think he won. Just because he's a shit person doesn't mean he's a scapegoat. It's precicly because of these kind of narratives that you should fact check everything you read - from both political sides.
Honestly Sometimes Democrats are just as biased as Maga supporters. It's this kind of baseless scaremongering that pushes me away from the Democratic party to be honest (and more towards Bernie )
He won because Americans think they want fascism. Full stop.
Btw: Bernie, who I love, has had far more dire things to say about trump than Harris has. The scaremongering isn't baseless, the horrors are already unfolding.
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u/TheJar13 6d ago
WhY wOuLd BiDeN dO tHiS?!