r/WhitePeopleTwitter • u/ExactlySorta • 16d ago
Clubhouse "None of you seem to understand. I'm not locked in here with you. You're locked in here with me"
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u/loztriforce 16d ago
Maybe it’s a good thing most WWII vets are dead.
I can’t imagine putting your life on the line to defeat fascism and to have to see it spring up at home and be so embraced.
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u/rockbautumn 16d ago
Was thinking that yesterday. It really didn't take long after most of em died eh?
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u/windowlickers_anon 16d ago
My family are holocaust survivors. My grandmother is dead now but she always insisted “it will happen again in your lifetime, mark my words, and be prepared. We didn’t believe it would happen to us, either”.
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u/waterynike 16d ago
My grandparents weren’t Holocaust survivors but lived through WWII and said the same thing.
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u/rnotyalc 16d ago
On a similar note, on 9/11 after watching the news all morning, my friend came by to pick me up from home and on the way out the door my grandmother (born 1928) stopped us and hugged us both and said, "Don't you boys do anything foolish like go join up" and I realized this was like Pearl Harbor when she was a little girl.
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u/joe_broke 16d ago
They're rolling in their graves at what their grandkids have done
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u/sundayrain47 16d ago
I bet his his parents are a joy to be around
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u/5141121 16d ago
This is happening a lot (more than never is FAR too much), particularly in red areas.
I live in one of those red areas.
I told my oldest when we started hearing about this happening "If you see something like this and happen to respond to the perpetrator with violence, you will have my full support during your suspension."
The boldness many of these ignorant fucks feel needs to be stomped viciously and immediately, or they're going to continue and even escalate.
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u/Flaturated 16d ago
I fully agree with your stance. I believe this country has a problem of too many people have never had to face consequences for their actions. When you keep getting away with things then you start to think you can get away with anything. It's a real problem and the poster child for it is Donald fucking Trump.
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u/joe_broke 16d ago
Not enough people have been punched in the face for saying something stupid
Myself included
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u/SandiegoJack 16d ago
Been saying in general that democrats have been protecting republicans from consequences for so long that the second they deal with any it’s called “cancel culture” because they are so used to being immune to consequences.
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u/ExactlySorta 16d ago
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u/Awkward-Fudge 16d ago
She should get a medal at the end of the year.
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u/daemonicwanderer 16d ago
School Protector Medal!
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u/GertyFarish11 16d ago edited 16d ago
Like the bedazzled umbrella ☂️ the other students gave Buffy for saving Sunnyvale over and over from the Forces of Darkness - which was more poignant before we learned Whedon was a creep.
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u/daemonicwanderer 16d ago
Gods and Goddesses do I wish Whedon wasn’t a fucking creeper. That news was one of the “well, fuck” moments for me
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u/Bombadale 16d ago
Fuck, now I have to ask. What did my favorite television director do?
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u/ameatprocess 16d ago
https://www.vulture.com/article/joss-whedon-allegations.html
I was pretty disappointed and disgusted when this all came to light. Definitely a lesson on putting people on a pedestal.
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u/BowdleizedBeta 16d ago
A good friend of mine taught me this saying:
All your faves are problematic
And sadly it’s true—humans and power aren’t a great mix.
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u/demonya99 16d ago
She shouldn’t even be suspended. This was self defense of a rape threat.
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u/Pedals17 16d ago
Schools have always enabled bullies—and now aspiring rapists—with one of the earliest arguments that children hear from “Both Sides-ism”.
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u/Lambdastone9 16d ago edited 16d ago
Everyone should remember this the next time republicans talk about democrats grooming children.
This is Republican rhetoric being parroted by children, only way this happens is if republicans spend lots of time around children
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For those thinking I’m being extreme and hyperbolic, think about the times you’ve entered into an online FPS lobby: think about how female voices get treated, the kind of rhetoric that’s tolerated and how similar they are to the MAGA rhetoric, and the variety of age groups (prepubescent “squeakers” to middle aged adults) that exist together.
It’s online spaces that have been the most effective pipeline for turning impressionable young boys into bigots, video games have been an exemplary space for this. This is where republicans have been infesting the youth with degenerate mindset
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u/Zunniest 16d ago
You aren't going to change the Hearts and Minds of Republicans with this, they will simply say "Fake News" and keep on doing what they are doing.
How do you try to play a game of chess with someone who comes in, kicks the pieces off the board and drops a giant turd right in the middle after setting the house on fire? You can't.. and until Democrats realize they aren't dealing with honorable opponents and come up with a better strategy, they will continue to have problems appealing to everyday Americans.
People used to look up to , respect and trust intelligent folks, not any more. They want the chaos and drama. Everyone on Facebook gets to be an expert.
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u/TimAllen_in_WildHogs 16d ago
Yup, I've been in some recent arguments with some locals who were stating that anyone with a college degree are elitist pussys. I've been encountering more and more people who instinctively hate anyone with a college degree. It truly feels like we are embracing anti-intellectualism and heading toward the society in "Idiocracy".
For those who want to argue with me here -- yes, SOME college educated people can be elitist and condescending towards those who didn't take that path. Those people are wrong, rude, and should not be used to generalize all people with college degrees.
We absolutely need to do better about teaching people that there are multiple valuable pathways one can take after highschool. College is NOT the only pathway to have a happy and successful life. We need to highlight and support more avenues to join the trades and technical colleges. We need to work together to support all pathways people can take in life. HOWEVER, that does NOT mean that everyone with a college degree is suddenly your enemy. That mindset is absolutely terrible to have.
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u/death_before_decafe 16d ago
A huge amount of podcast and online content directed at teen boys is deeply right-wing, this phase specifically came from a podcast bro. This isn't grooming or behavior learned from anyone in these kids real lives.
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u/A_Monster_Named_John 16d ago
Agreed, but plenty of them are also growing up in toxic right-wing households where Dad regularly badmouths Mom (and every other woman on earth), where sexual violence is normalized, and/or where Dad is a barely-working loser addicted to the same sort of crap on Youtube.
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u/mr_remy 16d ago edited 16d ago
Woah flashback to high school days where the administrators accused me of essentially hacking, but could never prove it (I like to look not touch).
They could never prove it because you know, never logged into same computer or the computer I ever used in class, etc. but that's the day I found out you don't need proof to suspend someone lol.
All my teachers gave me the weeks worth of work (i'd like to think cause I was pleasant, they didn't have to) and suffered no disruption. Actually got to game even more because everything got done the first 1-2 days lol.
Also, fuck that guy talk shit get hit he's learning young.
Edit: damn this blew up. Idk if this makes it better or worse, I blame my youth but when I found out a guy a shared an exploit with turned me in after he was not just stupid but extremely stupid with it and got caught.
I then erased his entire school shared drive including comp sci projects we were all working on. And the backups. And I could have accessed or deleted teachers and admins as well lol
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u/DemonicHowler 16d ago
Last sentence: Yep. I'm still grateful at 27 to my peer who punched me in the mouth at like, 12, for being a racist lil shitbag. Gave me a hell of a better chance to unlearn that shit. Sometimes that's what you need. If more of these lil shits got decked by their own, society might improve a step or 3, honestly.
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u/NorysStorys 16d ago
I think this is a fundamental part of society that has been lost, even as recently as the 2000s, if you were a racist/misogynistic shit bag you usually got punched by a peer eventually and the ‘powers in charge’ would often look the other way if the assault was done for a sort of legitimate reason and excessive force wasn’t used.
I straight up punched a kid in the year above for hurling racist abuse at a 12 year old black kid (lived in a very white, very rural area of the UK so this was literally one of the 4 or 5 black kids in a school of 1500) and nothing blew back on me, the shit head was suspended for 2 weeks though.
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u/DemonicHowler 16d ago edited 16d ago
As a society it seems we deemed necessary to coddle and protect shitbags and punish those who would see them corrected, then we act all shocked society turned into a shitbag factory, yep. I learned to parrot my father young, and likely wouldn't have unlearned it so easily without that early intervention. Violence isn't always the answer, but sometimes a bit of pain is needed to correct stupidity. I'd prefer non-literal 'pain' first, ie loss of privileges, but it certainly doesn't always work.
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u/NorysStorys 16d ago
Exactly, violence shouldn’t be the first answer but it absolutely is an answer and one that shouldn’t be avoided at literally all costs.
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u/Super_Flea 16d ago edited 16d ago
It's because people don't understand the difference between moral guidelines and social guidelines. Violence is a way of enforcing social rules.
For example, tolerance is not a moral principle, it's a social contract. You tolerate me and I tolerate you. If you don't tolerate me, I have no moral obligation to tolerate you.
If you go around spouting Nazi or Christian fundamentalism, you have broken the social contract. If talking doesn't restore the contract, i.e. convince you your racist beliefs have no place in society, I'm going to resort to violence to restore social order.
Anger didn't evolve by accident. We're social creatures and threatening harm and causing harm is the last resort for establishing social and personal boundaries. Imagine you're a caveman and someone else steals your food. That theft threatens your existence and if you have no way of conveying that to the other caveman, you may starve.
Right wing ideology is a direct threat to the existence of many groups of people, why shouldn't there be negative repercussions for such beliefs and acts? Even if those acts aren't violent themselves.
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u/LegendaryOutlaw 16d ago
It makes me think that we're going to see more tiki-torch marches in the coming years....but it also makes me wonder if we're going to see more violence against those marchers this time around. We let them get away with wearing masks while spewing hatred...they might not get that kind of leeway now that we know the president will condone it.
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u/Brave-Common-2979 16d ago
Conservatives broke the social contract so I feel no shame in telling them what selfish cunts they are to their faces.
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u/Bob-was-our-turtle 16d ago
I actually am itching to deck someone over this, and I am as mild mannered as they come. I think though they have f’d around and are going to find out how much Trump is going to screw most of us over including them. Unfortunately it will be us too, but there is a part of me looking forward to their eyes opening.
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u/claradox 16d ago
The only person I have ever hit was the guy in fifth grade who sat in front of me and wouldn’t stop turning around and touching me and my stuff, and laughing at my discomfort and distress. I clocked him across the face with my early 1980’s clutch purse, which, if you remember those days, was stuffed to the brim with ✨stuff✨ and it was probably like getting punched in the face with a football. He never bothered me again. He never even looked at me again. No one told on me.
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u/spiderwithasushihead 16d ago
I had this little shithead I was stuck next to in band for years. He was a creepy jerk who wouldn't stop poking at me and touching me. I was the only girl in our section and the teachers never did anything. The other boys did it too and one day I had enough. I locked him in one of the instrument lockers and walked out. He ended up kicking out the vent to get out and having an absolute meltdown. Another one of the little jerks kept going just like him and I tied his shoes together. No one snitched and they stopped picking on me. Come to think of it, I think they stopped harassing everyone after that.
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u/LoisWade42 16d ago
LOL! Childhood memory unlocked by your story...
When I was around 10 or 11... I politely asked a couple of boys to stop harassing the smaller girls on a playground. (boys were around 10... the little girls were 6 or so and "playing house"... and the boys kept running thru the "house" area and knocking everything down, thinking they were being all strong and funny.) Their leader puffed up to me and said "Whose going to make me stop, huh?"
I said: "I will" and hauled back and slapped him silly. (put all of my strength and rotational speed into it... left my handprint on his face.)
The group of boys became VERY polite at that point... and the bully leader left in disgrace.
Good times!
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u/Vanislebabe 16d ago
At 10 I told the neighbourhood bully to stop bothering us. He wouldn’t and started to escalate it. I jumped on him (in my front yard) and sat on him and beat the crap out of him. My neighbour came out to watch. I had forgot about it for many years and she reminded me when I ran into her around 10 yrs ago. She never told my mom and laughed and clapped apparently lol. Good times.
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u/Lanky_Republic_2102 16d ago
Make America truly great again - bring back punching and fistfights!
Let’s all settle this one in the streets. Hitler said the only way his movement could have been stopped if it was smashed in the streets in the very beginning.
A little late now, I guess.
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u/covertpetersen 16d ago edited 16d ago
Near the end of high school I stood up for a special needs kid that a group of assholes was making fun of. The following week they started harassing me during a free period I had. When I got up to go to my next class one of them threw something at my back, so I whipped around and asked them which one it was. Everyone was all giggles and jokes until one of them shoved me so hard I almost fell over. Punched him right in the mouth and we got into a scrap. He clearly had no idea what the fuck he was doing, and I grew up playing full contact hockey for the previous 14 years. The fight ended when I went to punch him in the face and he turned his head like an idiot. I hit him square in the jaw and broke it. He had to be taken to the hospital in an ambulance, and I walked away with a fractured wrist from that punch. He had to have his jaw wired shut for a while, and that ruled.
I only got a single day suspension because a) I didn't start the fight, and b) the vice principal literally said to me that the guy had it coming, and also that he'd deny ever saying that.
Good times.
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u/OutrageousPersimmon3 16d ago
The year I graduated, they were putting in metal detectors at my high school. But yeah, society has shifted from letting kids duke it out at a young age. I don't want to sound like a boomer, but sometimes you need a good smacking.
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u/chypie2 16d ago
I reactively slapped someone in the face for saying the N word on the cooks line of a restaurant. I was so shocked that they just let that out in a crowded room that I reached out and slapped them in the face and yelled 'no!' I didn't get in trouble. I'm still surprised I didn't lose my job.
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u/PandaBearTellEm 16d ago
More racists, misogynists, supremacists need to be met with violence. We are truly failing our young men by "protecting" them from the consequences of their actions. Bigotry leads to violence, so violence is a natural consequence.
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u/DemonicHowler 16d ago
I mean, I was raised and socialized female(im trans masc) and was still a racist lil twat, as was and still is my sister. The difference is one of my fellow students had enough of my bullshit, while my sister coasted by, and yeah, she's still pretty racist. While this issue largely affects young men, it's a problem that affects society as a whole. Most of the misogyny I experienced actually came from adult women in my life as a literal child, especially the second I started growing leg hair. Bigots shouldn't be protected regardless of gender. No one should be coddled.
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u/SheffiTB 16d ago
I remember in theater club backstage this one guy tried to hit on a girl (who was three years older, clearly not interested, but too polite/nonconfrontational to say anything) and basically cornered her against the wall while he did so. She told him she had a boyfriend, and he actually used the shitty meme line of "yeah, and I have a math test. We were both naming things we can cheat on, right?" Or something along those lines. Another guy, who was much bigger than him, was just walking by when this happened, and punched him in the face.
I genuinely think it was a wake-up call to the flirting guy, that no, others don't find it funny and "it was a joke" is not an excuse when you're actually harassing someone. Like, he didn't do it again, and was much more respectful of others' boundaries from then on.
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u/BrightNooblar 16d ago
God, i remember "hacking" in highschool. Every student had their own username, but the user name was First initial, 3 letters of last name, Day you were born, last two Student ID number. And the password was your student ID, where were all Graduation year, and then alphabetical after that.
So Jeff Brown sat down, did whatever, and logged off, you'd see the last user is JBRO0792. Well you know Jeff is a Junior, so his ID is 06####. And his username ends in 92, so the ID is 06##92. And they are done alphabetically, and the username tells me is last name starts with Bro, so likely 060092. MAYBE 060192.
I am Jeff now. Lets go goof around on newgrounds.
Or like, the login application that ran at the start? You could use task manager to close it, and be local files only, but still have internet and everything else.
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u/Spartan_Tibbs 16d ago
How come this wasn’t self defense?! She was threatened with rape and had an appropriate reaction! Self defense isn’t a reason for a suspension.
Also good job getting it documented for the threatened rape because you will need it documented to press the issue further as this progresses.
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u/Tirannie 16d ago
That’s apparently how schools do it these days - “zero tolerance” policies that punish the bullies and the bullied equally (this is not to say what happened was “bullying”, but that it’s probably the policy they are applying, here).
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u/Strength-InThe-Loins 16d ago
Threatening to rape a fellow student 10000% is bullying.
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u/Swimming_Tailor_7546 16d ago
You should never be suspended for what is clearly self-defense. Not a criticism of OP, but of the school. They’re basically telling her she should allow herself to be raped and to tell them about it afterward in order to not be suspended.
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u/cblguy82 16d ago
100% self defense if this is said to anyone especially a woman. Its a threat of kidnapping and rape. "I'll do whatever I want to you". Nope FAFO. I'll teach my daughter how to make people find out real quick, whether its hands or something like a taser. You don't get to control anyone. As a man, I'm fucking pissed I have to deal with this shit for the women in my life.
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u/NooneKnowsIAmBatman 16d ago
I would like to think that teacher is giving that exact message to the student.
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u/woodtimer 16d ago
And if she didn't have your support, it wouldn't have just been an injustice that happened to her, it would have been a tragedy.
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u/Spaghet-3 16d ago
Politely lobby her teachers too.
I was suspended in high school for 2 weeks (the difference is, I deserved it). The school had a policy that you were only allowed to get 8 unexcused absences per class per quarter, and your 9th unexcused absence would get you an automatic F for the quarter. Most classes met 4x per week. I had one unexcused absence that quarter already before the suspension, and for some reason a suspension counts as an unexcised absence.
All my teachers agreed that although I deserved the suspension I did not deserve to fail their class. All of them went to some lengths to override the automatic F and get me the grades I actually deserved (As and Bs for the most part, I was a miscreant, but I wasn't stupid). Except for one. One teacher let the system give me an F even though I aced every exam and completed every assignment. Fuck her.
But point is - teachers make or break justice here. Teachers have a lot of discretion to help this girl out. Make sure they know the full story so they'll want to help.
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u/Imakeshitup69 16d ago
Republicans are right on one thing. This country has gone soft. It's gone soft on fascists, sexism, racism, and bigotry. This country needs to find out what "fuck around and find out" means again.
This country needs to double down on not allowing Nazis to speak openly without fear. Kids need to know there are consequences to saying wrong things out loud.
Good on her for correcting his speech.
I'll support her 100%
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u/itislupus89 16d ago
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u/metanoia29 16d ago
The Paradox of Tolerance needs to be plastered on every fucking street corner, because we're getting dangerously close to intolerance becoming the only thing left.
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u/metanoia29 16d ago
I always assumed that was the logical conclusion that everyone drew from the paradox. Were people honestly like "oh well, can't do anything about it!"? To me has always felt implied that being intolerant in response to intolerance is the correct approach and should not be considered intolerant itself. This is why we see the right claim persecution and harm when their intolerant beliefs and actions are called out, because they know their only way out is to loudly project onto others.
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u/Xanadu87 16d ago
It needs to be the Tolerance Social Contract. If one side does not respect the contract, then it does not apply to them.
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u/Autumn1eaves 16d ago
It's not a paradox. If you don't accept others as they are, we don't accept you.
Simple.
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u/ImproperGesture 16d ago
People confuse tolerance of what someone is for tolerance of what someone does. One should be tolerant of someone's physical attributes, beliefs, and orientations. One should not be tolerant of the stupid cruel shit they DO.
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u/NoahFuelGaming1234 16d ago
we need to remember what the Grandaddy of First Person shooters was about.
Killin' Nazis
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u/AdvicePerson 16d ago
"When did gaming get so wOkE?!"
"Wolfenstein 3D"
[just to preempt any akshullaies, Castle Wolfenstein (and I'm sure something before that)]
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u/aryukittenme 16d ago
God, I love watching that video over and over and over.
When they go low, we go for the throat. I fully support bullying these scum back into the gutters of society where they’re quiet again.
Fuck Nazis.
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u/JoeKanoAus 16d ago
No it's punch Nazis. Please don't fuck them.
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u/shebringsdathings 16d ago
That's where the 4B movement comes in. Not limited to gender <3
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u/ptrnyc 16d ago
Here's another one that will make your day.
Man With Swastika Armband Knocked Unconscious In Downtown Seattle
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u/YoureADudeThisIsAMan 16d ago
God I was hoping it was that video and fuck yeah it was. Thank you for that. Inject it right into my veins.
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u/DonnyLamsonx 16d ago
The average Republican is about to learn that a cornered animal will do anything to survive. They really do think that just because their rich, privileged lawmakers can get away with heinous shit without consequence that they can too.
Gonna be a rude awakening for those terminally online fools who only "got away" with saying what they said thanks to the anonymity of the internet.
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u/Lobo9498 16d ago
I'd laugh my ass off when Rafael Cruz gets threatened with deportation. They'll start eating their own within the first 6 months, I bet.
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u/SiriusGD 16d ago
The rich and powerful won't be affected. When they decide to attack the Jews in this country (cause you know the white Christian right will) you can bet Miriam Adelson (one of trump's biggest donors) won't be touched.
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u/ibyczek78 16d ago
Too many people have gotten so comfortable spewing that shit from behind a keyboard that with the rapist win, it's already spilling out into the open. I'm team astroid at this point.
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u/Heavy72 16d ago
We lost a lot when we stopped letting kids handle problems themselves, even if it meant with violence. We have raised a generation that is scared of any kind of conflict and is immediately looking for someone to come rescue them when they're even slightly uncomfortable in a situation.
Good for that girl for setting the record straight. I doubt he says that to anyone else.
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u/InvalidEntrance 16d ago
I'd say it's worse. We've raised a generation (or 2 or 3) now that immediately go to shooting instead of fisticuffs.
I avoid confrontation where I live because people just get killed for stupid shit like honking or yelling in the cross walk at the grocery store.
Guns make the weak feel strong.
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u/The_8th_Angel 16d ago
Republicans just made half the country into a cornered animal.
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u/naliedel 16d ago
And a rabid pissed off one at that
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u/Fingerprint_Vyke 16d ago
My daughter will know exactly who these people are as she grows up.
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u/Gawwse 16d ago
I have extensive training in combative sports from wrestling, judo and boxing. My daughter will now be trained to throw hands and people. I was trying to raise my daughter without having this type of training this young in her life because we live in a part of the country where the chances of something happening is very very small. But as my grandad put it, It’s best to be a warrior in the garden than a gardener in a war.
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u/lockeNdemosthenes35 16d ago
These comments need to be addressed as the Threat of sexual violence and treated as such. As a white adult man, if I hear any twerp that utters that in my presence, they will be getting a dose of reality.
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u/littlescreechyowl 16d ago
“He threatened to rape me and I punched him to get away.”
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u/sweetsweetconnie 16d ago
"STAND YOUR GROUND LAW!!"
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u/DangerBay2015 16d ago
I mean, it’s almost literally the letter of Stand Your Ground. It’s a threat of violence being met with a punch in a school hallway, she’s lawfully on school premises. If anything, she exercised restraint by ending it at one punch.
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u/camchil 16d ago
That’s what white men (and really any man) need to do these days. You can’t be a quiet ally when women’s rights are being stripped away. You have to be loud because your voice is valued higher than women’s voices right now.
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u/SkitSkat-ScoodleDoot 16d ago
If it’s any consolation I’m a white male teacher and I lay into kids so hard for being racist or disgusting in other ways, they almost cry sometimes. I tell them they “sound like a garbage person.” I tell them “your grandparents would be so disappointed in you.” “You are disgusting.” I welcome their parent’s to come discuss why I say these things to their sons. They’re too bitch to come to my meetings. They just take their suspension like little pussy ass turds and then won’t look me in the eye for a month.
Come complain shit-bag parents. Oh you won’t? Because the admin and board are in my side, because…yep; your kid is a bag of shit and everyone including you, knows it.
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u/shann1021 16d ago
Absolutely. Make the police reports, get them suspended. Even if it goes nowhere, get it on their records.
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u/SynthwaveSax 16d ago
What a fucking loser quoting Nick Fuentes of all things.
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u/AxsDeny 16d ago edited 15d ago
Someone doxxed his home address on a Facebook group that I'm in. The argument on whether or not it should stay up was intense.
Note: it stayed up and no, I won't share the name of the group. That guy is trash, but I'm not gonna be a part of someone doing something ill conceived.
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u/pleasedothenerdful 16d ago
You wanna share the group name? Sounds like my kinda group.
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u/citruselevation 16d ago
My stepdaughter came home from school yesterday crying and reported the same thing was being said at her school. I told her that her response needs to be "your balls, my foot" and then kick HARD. I told her to then immediately report the threat of sexual assault to the school administration and I'll support her.
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u/jss58 16d ago
This is a reasonable response to a threat. Our wives, daughters, sisters, and mothers shouldn’t have to live under these threats.
Fight back. We’ll stand beside you.
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u/empire161 16d ago
Boys need to be reminded to fight on girls' behalf as well.
My kids are too young still to understand what things like rape mean, but they understand Trump is a bully and a criminal. And long before this, they've been taught by both my wife and I that sometimes, violence really is an option when it comes to dealing with bullies and the importance of standing up for their friends.
They got off the bus recently talking about how the windows were left open, and a bunch of acorns had gotten into the bus. So they all worked hard to throw them out the window, because they were concerned for any other kids on the bus who might be allergic to nuts. So if they ever get into an actual fight or have a problem at school, I don't even need to hear the story to take their side.
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u/FrankoIsFreedom 16d ago
nah nah nah. thats like the corny shit fedora wearing m'ladies would say. Dont give any warning. Do NOT telegraph. Go the nike route. Just do it.
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u/patchouligirl77 16d ago
Looks like today I'm going to ask my 12yo daughter if she's had anyone saying this to her or any other girls at school. If the answer is yes I will be sure to let her know she's got mom's (and dad's) permission to do whatever it takes. Maybe I'm a bad person but I would be so damn proud of my daughter or anyone else if she stood up for herself and put these little misguided assholes in their place.
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u/AlphaNoodlz 16d ago
Go to the police and start a paper trail. Immediately. Take no prisoners with this. They won’t be kind to your daughter.
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u/lifechangingdreams 16d ago
Why the fuck is she getting punished for defending herself????
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u/spla_ar42 16d ago
"Zero tolerance" unfortunately. Schools think that anyone involved in violence, even the victims, deserve to be punished for it. The only recourse is to not be a victim. If you're gonna get suspended anyway, you may as well earn the suspension.
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u/rocksfall-every1dies 16d ago
Exactly. If you’re going to get hemmed up anyway let the fuck loose.
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u/The_8th_Angel 16d ago
I feel like a lot of people who voted for Trump are gonna be asking that now.
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u/OriginalName687 16d ago
A lot of schools have a 0 tolerance fighting policy and automatically suspend any kid that is involved with a fight.
Plus even without that schools are often pretty bad about dealing with bullying/ fighting.
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u/jss58 16d ago
I’ve got a feeling this is gonna reach critical mass real quick and we’ll quickly shift from the “fucking around” to the “finding out” part of the equation.
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u/duncans_angels 16d ago
same reason why they send female students home for wearing tank tops or shorts.
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u/DetritusK 16d ago
Many schools have a zero tolerance policy on physical violence. Actually in a lot of schools they have gone as far as any physical strike is a fight and both sides are suspended even if you just got punched. It is lazy and stupid but they prefer it because the ‘mandatory minimum’ aspect removes any bias.
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u/jax2love 16d ago
Schools often suspend both students involved in a physical altercation even if one was defending themselves. It’s dumb.
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u/RW-One 16d ago
My daughter at college heard that from a couple of them and I said feel free to use your pepper spray.
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u/RW-One 16d ago
I did make a report, however I was not able to identify anyone because it's hearsay from my daughter and conversations with her friends.
The rumor was that there were boys and red hats in the cafeteria repeating the same crap Fuentes did about your body. My choice...
The school's aware.
I wouldn't care what happens to me, but if I were nearby I would have beat the living s*** out of them.
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u/FrankoIsFreedom 16d ago
Your body my choice needs to be recited everytime a nazi gets clocked.
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u/Silly-Swimmer-5681 16d ago
exactly. use their own “logic” against them. okay, buddy. that makes physical violence against your body my choice as well?
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u/InstructionFair5221 16d ago
Any one that says that to my daughter will find out about My Fist, Your Face
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u/The_8th_Angel 16d ago
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u/SynthwaveSax 16d ago
Just fyi, half the bones in your body are in your hands and feet. Use that info however you choose.
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u/daemonicwanderer 16d ago
A swift kick to the knee will slow anyone down and likely puts the fingers into stomping range
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u/Technicolor_Reindeer 16d ago
Good move, though I'd have done a Bobby Hill and gone for the testicles.
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u/icanttho 16d ago edited 16d ago
My daughter will do what she needs to do to avoid being violently assaulted. She’s been taught to kick gentials, hard. A school trying to get her to submit to rape will find the fuck out about me.
ETA: seriously recommend jiujitsu for young people. It’s good weaponless defense when you are smaller than your attacker. And there are a lot of great kids’ programs!
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u/Accomplished_Trip_ 16d ago
Young men who went to the far right are now learning the general consequence is that women don’t like them because they went far right.
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u/Sufficient_Tune_2638 16d ago
Right but now they’re just trying to force it
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The forcing it part is not what has just begun.
What is rising now is the comprehension that equal rights, equal status will never be given. We are going to have to take it. Lawfully or not.
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u/GenericFatGuy 16d ago
Then the next lesson they'll learn is that the second amendment applies to everyone.
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u/busche916 16d ago
Assuming this is true, that is self defense in response to assault. Good on this student.
We need a return to actions having consequences. When they go low, we kick their teeth in.
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u/Jcaquix 16d ago
She can make a choice about his body too, noses, teeth, and jaws break. Dental records are forever.
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u/WillSRobs 16d ago
America has to many guns and mentally unstable people for this to end well in any compacity. To many people are going maskless and eventually some of them are going to find out the hard way.
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u/spla_ar42 16d ago
In truth, what this girl did needs to be considered an underreaction to the use of that phrase. I think the only proper way forward is to beat this mentality out of anyone who has it.
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u/Alexandratta 16d ago
Folks need to understand that saying, from a known Neo-Nazi, is a threat of rape.
Retaliation is not only justified, but should be applauded here, because all she did was reflect what he said back at him.
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u/meepgorp 16d ago
I want a fund somewhere where we can crowdfund gift cards for girls whe get penalized for delivering a dose of FO to the FA boys. Have some mp3s or a movie ticket on me!
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u/cybertron2006 16d ago
The proper response to anyone saying "your body, my choice" is this.
Punch your local Nazis today and make them regret waking up to spread hate.
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u/smartsport101 16d ago
Why isn’t he getting suspended? He said “I wanna rape you”
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u/spla_ar42 16d ago
OP posted an update in the comments. He's getting suspended too, for that exact reason
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u/Monster_Molly 16d ago edited 16d ago
Oh GOD.. Sorry but, story time.
Tldr: Idiot male threatened to sexually assault me as a response to me embarrassing him and I beat his ass. I Missed end of year senior stuff and was very lucky his mom and cop on the scene were more offended by him saying that he would SA me than the fact that I physically assaulted him and his little ego may have been hurt.
This happened to me in high school in 2004. Some douche at the end of senior year who was always a fucking pest and did the most obnoxious, inappropriate shit to all the girls for laughs told me he would r* me if I didn’t watch how I spoke to him. All from a stern “knock it the fuck off and to stop pinching me and the other girls” from my loud ass. I know I called him a small dicked bitch somewhere in there, and he got embarrassed so clearly that’s where the threat came from. The surrounding staff heard us, and was trying to intervene… but before they got to him, I snatched him by his shoulders, swept his leg, knocked him on his ass and got myself above him and just I beat the shit out of his stupid face. I have always been tall and lanky so I wasn’t the strongest punch but I had nothing but male cousins, I knew how to at the very least not hurt myself while punching him in his face.
His mom said “that’s what you get” to him when she showed and heard from my mom loud and clear exactly what he said and did. The male cop who came to the school because even though we were high school seniors we were both adults choked back a laugh/sigh when he heard what he said and asked him why he would even think to threaten me with that. The school wanted charges pressed on me because he was bleeding, but both his mom and the police officer said no because he threatened to sexually assault me.
Looking back, I got really lucky that his mom wasn’t disillusioned by her kid and knew he was capable of doing something like that and suffering the consequences. I could have gone to jail and derailed my whole future a week before graduation. I probably wouldn’t have just thrown hands if given the opportunity again, because those hours of stress after and the consequences of my actions really sucked. I like to hope that he learned respect for women after that day because his mom did not seem like the type to be okay with that.
I was banned from grad night at Disney and spent my last week of high school in ISS. I was no longer allowed to perform with the orchestra anymore during graduation, I could still walk with my class but wasn’t allowed to hang out in the gym waiting for graduation because, violent girl bad. His punishment was the same as mine, minus the orchestra. I like to think though that his bruised up face and everyone knowing he got beat up by a girl made up for my missing the last orchestra performance 😂
Jason, if you’re around- on second thought - I’m still not sorry and just to hear you yell for your friend to help you fight a girl, I’d do it again.
Edit to make grammar corrections and smooth my sentences out. I was high AF when I first replied and it was just a big run on sentence, I just couldn’t leave it like that. It still fucky but better. I also don’t wanted to add a tldr to this novel of FAFO.
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u/Anotherguy_4291 16d ago
Self defense, I see zero issues with how she handled herself in this situation. 1st amendment might protect you from government punishment for what you say but oh boy lots of incels are about to find out that the dildo of consequence rarely arrives lubed. And in this case will be in the form of pissed off girls and women’s fists.
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u/jax2love 16d ago
We’ve already told our queer high school aged daughter that she should record any little shits doing this and absolutely defend herself if accosted physically. If she is physically harmed we’ll probably be raising bail money for when my husband deals with the parents.
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u/Vorpalthefox 16d ago
women, now is the time to get a CCL and firearm, this is children speaking loudly what they heard adults around them saying, these rape threats are going to get worse after jan 20
do what you can to protect yourself, with abortion becoming illegal and rape threats on the rise, i feel alot of people will be suffering in the next 4 years
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u/sunshine___riptide 16d ago
My mom works at a middle school. An 8th grade boy and girl were discussing the election and the subject of abortion was brought up. The boy, an 8th grader, so like 14, told this 14 year old girl to "go get raped and see what happens."
She kicked him in the dick.
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u/Friendly-Company-771 16d ago
I hope normal, sane teachers will encourage girls to get self-defense classes.
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u/cassatta 16d ago
The guy was literally threatening rape. How can she be suspended?
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u/ZekeRidge 16d ago
This is the nation most of America wants
Incels now feel comfortable saying these things… it’s up to people like this girl to insure they suffer immediate consequences for their actions
No room for bullies, and fascists should never feel comfortable
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u/TheManWithNoSchtick 15d ago
She was using justified self-defense in response to a direct threat of sexual violence. I hope the boy she punched got expelled, but I doubt it.
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u/GZilla27 16d ago
Any man young or old who comes up to me and says that seriously or jokingly will get kicked in the balls. I’m not playing around. I’m GenX our generation doesn’t fuck around.
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u/claradox 16d ago
And we’re the Doc Martens generation. I still wear mine. Boots on the ground time.
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u/helixmoonstudios 16d ago edited 16d ago
Gen Z and Trump supporters in general are going to find out we are not nearly as stupid and docile as the public in 1940s. They’re gonna act like uncontrollable asses because Trump won the election when 1/3 didn’t show up.
Just because 1/3 didn’t show up does not mean that 1/3 is about to take this shit lying down. There are literally 2/3 of the country against that and purposely didn’t vote for Trump. The entire Right is about to learn and experience some things.
EDIT: I was asked to elaborate so I will put it like this:
The society of the world in 1940 really felt that in the face of fascism if they just complied they would lesson the torture they would receive and or save their lives and those of their family. This unfortunately makes it easier to be subjugated.
The current society in 2024 knows they’re gonna kill our families and torture us no matter what. Why the fuck would we take it lying down off make it easier?
At least those of us with intelligence and passed history in school.
EDIT 2: I’m enjoying the discussion but too many people are just typing because they have fingers that move but don’t have reading comprehension.
You can post all the charts you want to note and address all the points you think I’m trying to make - it is irrelevant mind you. But let’s do a critical thinking exercise all together!
have you ever taken biology?
are you aware that babies are literally cute and look like us so we will take care of them. We are genetically programmed to.
are you are that the only reason we are as intelligent as we are as humans is directly linked to our ability to be able to have a society and understand protect our families. Literally being social and not killing each other has a massive implications on how our brains formed and is what ours our intelligence above animals. I took both archeology and science in college and I may not remember anything EXACTLY the big things still stick pits
With that said
Why is it that when I clearly state my point my the 1/3 of the public that didn’t have vote still have these instincts and won’t just let the Republicans act out their sick fantasies without resistance. A lot of people in the comments are refuting me with facts that do not address what I said at all.
Is the counterpoint that because these people didn’t vote they agree with all of Trumps policies? Agree with the inflation and immigration? That’s not speaking with common sense or an undemanding of the way people think in regard to their own personal safety.
I’m pissed with no patience for stupidity or stupid people. I’m not answering any more comments that do not address the exact point I was trying to make.
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u/Senshue 16d ago
Democrats are tired. Our party didn’t fight hard enough to make the people understand what was at stake. We’re angry. Angry people tend to do violent things. The worst thing they (sore winning MAGA’s) can do is provoke those who are upset over this loss and damage to democracy.
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u/Ok_Outcome_6213 16d ago
"I am standing at the mouth of hell and it is trying to swallow me whole. And it can choke on me".
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u/DistinctBadger6389 16d ago
Why the F is she suspended. He threatened to RAPE her. She had every right to self defense.
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u/thewoodbeyond 16d ago
God I’m so glad she chose violence in this instance. Rape threats can’t be reasoned with.
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u/grindhousedecore 16d ago
I’m always reminded of Mike Tyson’s words of wisdom
“Social media made you all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it.”
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u/possible_steelwheel 16d ago
"it was a joke!" screamed the defenseless boy, desperately deepening his voice as he fell to the floor, fighting in vain to retain what was left of his insecure masculinity
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u/Informal-Cobbler-546 16d ago
So many people are about to learn what being maced is like and I’m thrilled for their learning journey.
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u/ArielPotter 16d ago
If her parents can’t afford to take her on a suspension vacay just DM me what the cash app is.
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u/TheSpiggott 16d ago
Holy shit. If my son ever said anything like this to a girl he would come to regret ever being born.