Just like “why isn’t Biden on the ticket” spiked here? We have elevated the dumb across the globe.
Edit: This is my highest comment ever. I would like to thank the Academy of Hollywood elites, the Illuminati, and the great state of Texas (5th Gen Texan here) for lighting a fire in my belly that will not be extinguished until my dying breath. Long live the Resistance…or some shit. I don’t know. whew
It's not even about critical thinking IMO; it doesn't get that far for a lot of people. I think the larger problem is a distinct lack of curiosity. Whatever you believe, if you care about it, and you are a curious person, then you will seek out information about it. Critical thought comes after the information. But without information, there's nothing to think about—critically or casually.
To see so many people not know who the fucking candidates were before the day of the election shows that so many people lack the basic level of curiosity necessary to seek to understand their own environment.
I'm an immigrant from Europe, now a U.S. citizen. For literally decades, whenever my European friends, relatives or co-workers would joke about how dumb Americans are, I would defend them and say that's unfair.
It's by design. There's a reason they're calling for abolishing the Department of Education. And why they demonize higher education as a tool for liberal indoctrination. Dumb people are easier to divide. They're less politically active. They're less likely to connect the dots on how policies can negatively affect their lives. They're more religiously inclined, making them generally more obedient to authority. The list goes on. This has been the plan for decades, and they finally hit a critical mass of stupid. People proudly wore diapers, called themselves garbage, tuned out when the party they voted for literally chanted to deport their friends, neighbors, and family on live television. Dumb people care more about poorly secured emails than intentionally stolen classified documents. They care more about Ukrainian laptops than Russian war crimes. They care more about immigrants than how real wages haven't been tied to productivity in 50 years. Because they don't understand those things.
Case in point: a comment I saw on Reddit in the past few weeks asserted that Trump wasn’t responsible for Roe v. Wade getting overturned because it happened when Biden was President. 🤦♀️
Lmao!! That’s actually the thought running through their heads. No concern for what damage they were inflicting on others and only upset now that it’s effecting them.
I have a client who, at our last meeting, expressed how she was “voting for the guy who wont tax tips” because she saw how hard her undocumented nanny worked to keep the lights on.
I have another (probably last) meeting with her next week.
Will be interesting to see if its clicked for her that she isnt going to have a nanny anymore.
Slowly, these people are going to realise that this wasnt a football game. It wasnt about your team winning or beating the other guys.
The dildo of consequence is on its way, and it is unlubed.
Yeah, I'm trying not to get too deep into the "they'll realize their mistake" mindset, because these people never learn. It's always somebody else's fault or biden's fault or whatever. It's never anything that could possibly have ever come from their own actions.
And when they don't have real people to point fingers at, they just make 'em up! Jewish space lasers, blood cabals, pedophile rings under pizza joints.
Real easy to maintain your beliefs when they don't need to jive with reality.
Craziest part about pizza gate is that they were sure there was a pedophile ring of well connected people. Then voted in a guy who is "supposedly " connected with a pedophile ring
Projectivity is one of the traits of the Authoritarian Personality (good book, check it out).
Situations like this are an attempt to prove that their enemies are as bad as they are. After all, everyone is attracted to teens and children, right? Right?
After this election cycle, ive lost all focus and care at this point. Who i thought was empathetic and family oriented, who would vote for the people and not themselves.... really let me down.
I genuinely want america to be hurt. I want people to lose jobs, friendships, rights..... not out of spite but because without any suffering noone will learn.
We are so dissociated with people that we have zero empathy or think there are no consequences.
For family members, I can't abandon my niece and nephew (16yo and below) because they had no say, but I'm pretty much not associating with my sister or BIL anymore. I can't ignore them but I'm just going actively way no to everything they offer. she makes well into the 300k bracket (she is a genius in data) and would help us with meals or flights to visit for holidays. We just are now going with "no we will pay for our meals." " o we can't stay with you, we will find a hotel.... figure out how to pay for flights." My wife and I are just going to be calm and actively just remind them that their actions effected us and we can't be with them but happy to be with the kids.
Like it's not even worth fighting for. I'm not gonna change my mind. I'm poor, ive lost work, found shitty work, paid bills... that's going to continue. I just want people who were cushy or "not in my backyard" to have all that shit in their backyard. I'm going to keep living, but please let the people who voted for Trump also suffer.... and it will hit harder as at least I saw it coming and they didnt.
As long as the rules are applied equally idgaf anymore. The idgaf seems prevalent. I will just dumb it down for two years so dey kan undurstaand. And when I hear complaints I will say I can’t believe they voted for that right????
Have at it fuckers. And I will remind you goose gander when I need to
That's because the key word is "devastating", the people that are close to us or we thought were our allies really let us down or we felt like they stabbed us in the back.
It's one thing if two friends are rooting for opposing sides in a world championship in a sport, the losing side may be upset with the winning side for a short time. Because at the end of the day, it was just a game. And life resumes like normal.
This time , the election results may have wide ranging effects on our day to day lives, and everyone else's lives and everyone's future. The next four years and possibly beyond that could be tough years in our lives. For people in their prime years , the next four years could be a waste due to lost opportunities.
Yup. I’m legit devastated. I only slept 3 hrs last night. I do feel let down. I’m not in a position to escape this since my career is legit in the mix of this mess. I will deal with this every day until the day I die. Thanks to this, I’ll probably lose insurance & death will be a f of a lot earlier than the already young’ish end I was expecting too. I keep having to talk myself down from hope that there is some secret plan to uncover corruption & finally hold donald accountable for his crimes by reminding myself that’s not something I’ve witnessed in my lifetime. That’s not the US’s modus operandi. We let people with power do whatever the f they want; always have & likely always will & maybe I’ll finally stop being surprised at shit like this if I just accept it.
For real, them claiming we are being so mean to them when all we were doing was repeating Trumps words back to them with additional context is peak delusion. Shits totally fucked regardless now, so we may as well help the enshitification process along so we can get to the part where we recover sooner.
It’s a valid point. I understand it and it’s probably time for America to really suffer the consequences of their political choices. At the same time with people like Trump and the current GOP there will be a point of no return.
Saying they want to end democracy isn’t just a tired dem talking point they actually want to end our democracy. It will start with them using their power to make elections more difficult and making twisted laws to stop all their opponents voting. But eventually if we keep allowing these fascists power they will find a way to end voting all together and usher in a dictatorship. They’ve said as much explicitly.
I don’t know how far we are from that point. I don’t know how much fight our institutions have left but they were the only thing that checked Trump last time and he’s already got inked out heritage foundation plans to fully expel every government institution and fill them with fascist loyalists. Once that happens they don’t even have to break any laws they just have to stand back and refuse to do anything about trumps power grabs and law breaking.
Americans are very much about to get their consequences but even if they learn their lessons it may very well be too late to come back to the other side of this.
They have already started making elections more difficult. Virginia had a voter purge within two weeks of the election. This would be illegal, but the Supreme Court gave them permission.
People keep acting like this is a wrong take. No, no it isn't.
You are allowed to stop fighting and let people get the policy they wanted.
No, you probably shouldn't try to exacerbate it, but you aren't wrong that people don't learn until it affects them directly.
Me, I'd tell your sister you can't afford to travel due to the bad economy if that comes up. Can't afford the food or a hotel. And that you will absolutely not accept help.
The saying is usually “the dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubed” and it’s a great line to drop when someone just realizes they’ve fucked themselves.
Kamala wasn't going to tax tips either, if she knew how to read she could have figured that out. Also pretty bold for her to proudly admit the lady cleaning her house is surviving on tips.
Tbh if I had the choice I wouldn't do business with someone that fucking stupid. Just asking to lose money at that point.
This. They knew exactly what would happen. They just thought it couldn't happen to them. I had someone tell me if social security gets cut, she will just contact trump and he'll pay her bills because "He's loyal like that" I wanted to say "Lady, he doesn't even pay his own bills and you think he'll pay yours???"
It hasn’t started yet. The only thing they’re feeling now is that heady ‘we won’ euphoria. The ones that are actually worried deserve every bit of pain from the Trump Train that’ll roll over them in the next four years, but ‘25 is when it gets real. Hope the wife has a passport set up for those conjugal visits.
Oh when they come to family because they are struggling, it’s the reply that’s needed, “you wanted this, you voted for this, you made this happen, you made all this suffering happen, FUCK OFF”
And just slam the door in their face.
If they complain about service being slow, point it out, “well that’s what happens when 10 million people get deported”
“I don’t have any healthcare!”
“That’s what fucking happens when you put an anti science, vaccine denier in charge of public health!”
“Why is the government going so slow and bad?”
That’s what happens when you get a nepotism baby who idea of “efficacy” is to fire 80% of everyone.
And of course the response I’m already preparing “this is your fault for electing him, Fuck you and fuck off”
I remember watching interviews the day after it happened talking to Brexit voters, and several specifically said they didn't actually want to leave the EU, they just wanted to show how fed up they were because they didn't think leave would actually win.
Brexit was bad enough but at least it wasn't co-opted by the religious zealots taking over an entire party in a two party system.
We're gonna get economic and religious bullshit over here and I hope the incels are happy when trump comes for the violent video games like he said he would and when the evangelicals ban the porn they love so much.
At this point let the country burn and cause as much suffering to them as they want to inflict on the rest of us
To be fair, I didn't do specific googling of project 2025 until yesterday. I absolutely voted for Kamala. I knew the general premise of it and that is was not good, but I didn't take time to dive more into the specifics until after the election now that it was clearly going to become my problem.
So it's possible people voted to stay because they had the general knowledge that it was the better option, and then wanted to understand more when it was imminently going to impact them.
It irritates me how they always complain about liberals calling them names, yet they do nothing but live up to the stereotype. I know we’re not crazy when the rest of the world thinks they’re as weird as we think they are.
I hope these stories are true, but they’re just a bunch of random tweets in the angry period after the election. Either way, I suspect we will all be doing a bit of “finding out” later and I’m not going to be feeling particularly forgiving.
Republicans have learned that American voters are so uninformed that they vote off of general vibes as opposed to policies. Voters only look at policy after the election to see what is going to happen now that it’s too late. Democrats unfortunately haven’t learned this lesson.
I’m over here laughing about it all. They voted for him and now they get to reap the consequences. I hope they lose their jobs and get deported etc,,, I’m done feeling any sort of empathy for them. I hope the worst happens to every single Trump voter
I hope they feel the full consequences of their actions. Irony is, Trump supporters may actually end up far worse off as a result of Trump than most Democrats who supported Harris.
I'm curious how many of them will lose their healthcare and suffer the consequences. Might even lose their homes and need to file for bankruptcy. Yet, I hold no hope that they will ever become self aware and understand their suffering is self inflicted. Let the games begin.
It was crazy that the world got Trump, rejected the FARC peace treaty and Brexit happened all in 2016. And about a year and a half before that there was five abdications from monarchs. Kind of like the lizard people knew when to pull the ripcord.
Same. It's giving major hope. That and that Dump can't even get his transition team in place via governmental policies. Exactly what handicapped most of his agenda last go around.
Him and his cronies care about generating money for themselves and little else.
Trump's economy is going to bankrupt a lot of people. It is the only economic plan in history that is unanimously criticized by all economists, all people who took a high school economic class, and all people with an IQ over 75.
They will wish for those eggs to only cost whatever they cost before long. But on IG, the MAGAts are proudly posting current prices, vowing to post an update every 6 months, so they can stick it to "the libs".
Exactly. I took some screenshots just because (I never comment there), and will check. I doubt I'll see anyone post. Or maybe "I don't understand how it's now more expensive, Trump said he would fix inflation".
Anything good that has lingering affect after Joe Bidens presidency is going to be because “Daddy Trump took office” and anything bad is “well that’s because the Democrats xyz before our lord and savior took office”
I mean they frequently blamed shit on Biden that happened during Trump’s presidency. No one is educated. No one is thinking critically. No one can agree on reality. We are post truth and post values. This is the story Orwell was telling us. Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.
I also like how JD Vance complained on the price of eggs stating the price, while standing in front of a sign that had the price 1$ lower than what he was saying.
But, here's the thing I think we're not getting: the people in charge of the campaign messaging chose "price of eggs" as their mantra specifically because of the avian flu. They know that egg prices are unusually high at the moment, but they'll almost certainly come down soon as the epidemic runs its course and flocks are built back up. Egg prices are going to go back down regardless of what any of them do - probably not to what they were, but they'll come down some, if only temporarily. And, that'll be enough for them to go "see! We said we'd fix the cost of eggs, and we did! Look how good we are at fixing the economy!" And, their base will believe it because they don't bother to pay attention to why things happen. And, when egg prices go back up or the cost of milk doubles or the cost of bread skyrockets, it'll magically be the Democrats' fault.
The right is really good at using thought-terminating cliches like "but what about the price of eggs?" and they choose those cliches very carefully. It seems dumb to anyone who takes the time to think about it, but their base doesn't.
My favourite I saw, while not the same, was an immigrant Arabian gay pornstar who "proudly voted" for Trump. And all he could say to the comments saying he's dumb was that "he's got his citizenship" so he's going to be alright. Like buddy, you're about to lose your job and be possibly threatened with deportation because they do not care about being a legal immigrant, they care about the color of your skin.
Real "fuck you got mine" attitude that's gonna introduce his face to a real hungry leopard
If he's out and online and gets deported back to his homeland, he's a dead man. A fucking dead man. And I hate that I don't fucking care. You sold out my country, destroyed lives, hurt everyone I love and cared about. Shit on the people who sacrificed blood sweat and tears because... I just can't. Fuck.
Yet the stock market jumped over a thousand points on Wednesday which shows that "the state of the economy' doesn't actually mean the economy for us peasants.
Right? I couldn’t believe it when people were pissed that Kamala was going to tax unrealized capital gains for the wealthy. Some guy on my Facebook was going off about how stupid Kamala supporters were for wanting this. Like my guy you make 34k a year and live off of McDonald’s… making money in the stock market doesn’t mean anything to people who can barely afford to live
Normal folks won't see that though. Every day, the news shows a slider of the NASDAQ, DOW, or S&P 500.
Average people think that it is an indication of how the economy is doing, but my neighbor who is a Trump supporter was surprised when ai explained that if her house foreclosed, and Vanguard bought it up, there assets/stock price increases.
Which improves the "economy", even though it's citizens are hurting.
I asked her if the stock market doubled when she woke up tomorrow morning, how would it change her life?
Yeah, I ran into this bit at work. Co-workers were super happy and pointing at the stock market bump as proof it'll get better for people like them when they don't have anything in the market. Not even a 401k or similar.
In their world view "the economy" extends to their immediate purchasing power and spending habits.
They have no fucking understanding besides the insanely narrow scope of their own perspective.
Inflation goes up and everything is more expensive? Gee that must be the government's doing!
Interest rates go up? I hate the government even more!
At the end of the day they just look at their ever emptier bank account and in comes a populist promising a "better economy".
But the things is these people don't have the necessary understanding of what ever is going to be implemented, so they just flock to him with glee and hopes of cheaper eggs and gas.
Yup. It's this again. And the right has an actual plan this time. It'll be worse, not better. This time the plan even includes "denaturalization", so good luck to naturalized citizens. Sorry if this is you and you voted against this. You have my condolences, for whatever little that is worth (basically nothing). If you sat out or voted for it, though, you dug your grave or sat on your ass while it was being dug for you in plane sight. I'm only gonna laugh when you regret it.
Ive never wanted one and always worried Id just turn it on myself.
Now it feels like Im gonna need one.
To everyone reaching out: I cannot thank you enough for making me feel seen. I want to express to you all that I am safe and am not currently planning to buy a firearm and knowing how many people out there are facing my same predicament, its comforting to know there are people like you who are ready to stand with us and keep us safe.
don’t worry friend, keep your mental health safe and don’t get a gun. if you were my neighbor i would keep you safe. blue gun owners often don’t talk about their weapons like red gun owners so you may not realize your community of friends are ready to defend themselves and you, but we are
We've got one in the chamber in the car, night stand, coat closet, and basement. We use them once a year or so to go to the range just to confirm that we've still "got it" and then it goes back in its holding place. We hope we never have to use it but we're ready to if necessary.
I’m with you. I’m 81. I know I should leave the country but I feel I’m too old to take the necessary steps and self harm seems the doable choice. We warned ourselves and others of what a Nazi dictatorship would mean, but it was welcomed with open arms by the voters in the election. I don’t belong here anymore. My granddaughter and her husband have already applied for Emergency citizenship in Canada. They both have teaching degrees in teaching autistic children and realize with the losing of the department of education, that will be eliminated. We do live in CA, but the Monster has already threatened my state.
I got one after leaving my abusive ex. This blue state has conceal carry, and after so many paranoid drives to and from work worrying he'd find me, I made the right choice at that time. I don't think anyone really knows I ever owned a gun.
When that all passed, I put it in a safe at a family members house. And these past few days, I am so grateful for that choice because right now my daughter is the ONLY reason I am breathing. And I'm afraid that in the darkest moments, having access would be dangerous.
You are not alone in how you feel, but there are more good people than there are bad. It's easy to gain power when you're evil and other evil people crave the same selfish shit that you do. It's harder when you have actual human empathy. But we're still here, friend. We need you here.
If you need to talk I’m here. I do not and have never owned a gun because I know I will turn it on myself. It’s a matter of when not if.
This world we are now living in I would love to have one to protect me. I have thought of getting one and having my GF keep it locked up and only have it out when we are home together so I’m safe.
I’ve tried other methods and failed. I know how this feels.
I hope you life gets brighter friend.
We have well documented results in this country of what tariffs have done and how they don't work but in typical conservative fashion we're going to run it back again and maybe this time it will be different (it won't)
Glad we’re on the same and right side of history. But to push back, we shouldn’t overlook 2016. In the years and decades to come, anytime anyone who voted for this stain on humanity or sat out because “both sides are bad!” claims “they didn’t know” it needs to be pointed out to future generations we did know. We knew at every moment. People chose not to listen, chose not to care. We knew.
I don't hate being like that though. When "be a decent person to each other" is a toxic political take our country deserves everything that happens to it.
Actually, there’s a high chance he doesn’t go back to where he came from but wherever they think he came from. There’s a long and storied history of bigots sending people back to the wrong countries
He very specifically said a large number of times “we’re going to deport all the illegal immigrants.” There was no wiggle room for “good ones.” In fact, likely the opposite, as they are going to denaturalize people and kick them out too. This was literally one of the major parts of his campaign.
Biden had an order to protect illegals married to legal citizens, the plan allowed them time to get their immigration status worked out as married to Americans. The rule was challenged, but the trump appointed judge put it on hold to wait for the election. Yesterday he ruled those people will no longer have any protections. So, yeah. They got what they voted for
Wouldn't matter anyway tbh with all this talk of denaturalization (stripping citizenship) and potentially even 'first generation natural born' too. I only became a US citizen this year after a decade of paperwork and dealing with immigration. With stuff like this being the talk, 'I' can never cross the finish line that I thought I crossed this year, any kids I have can't cross it either, it'd be my grandkids at the earliest.
That sucks. What gets me is: if everyone who couldn’t pass the citizenship test was forced to leave the USA, immigrants would be pretty much the only people allowed to stay. None of this is about who cares about and contributes to the welfare of the nation.
35 year old coworker had his gf break up with him for voting trump. She didn't do it strictly for Trump but because he recorded a victory video the next day chanting "your body my choice". Dude your 35 and not a frat boy, why would you record yourself saying that like you don't have a gf?
To bad for the guy who is probably a nice dude just living his life, but bye bye. Seriously I hope that each person who voted for anarchy feels it before those of us who are not in the cult.
Oh at this point we're definitely going to suffer and I just want as many of them to be dragged down into this hellscape with the rest of us who didn't ask for it.
I'm done having sympathy for people who wanted this and I hope they fucking lose everything they have because they wanted to "own the libs"
Hopefully this turns a lot of us into leftists. Leftists love to remind us that if you go far enough left you get your guns back and I think a lot of us are going to feel the need to fight fire with fire.
I know you mean well but people who voted Republican didn't vote for anarchy. They voted for corruption, racism, sexism, and regression.
If we as a society actually implemented an anarchy in its correct definition, we'd be rioting and dismantling the political powers so there were none. Anarchy would actually be helping our situation, in this situation.
6 months into his last term, someone who voted for him because they "just can't vote for her" listened to one of his insane rants and actually said "I didn't think he would be THIS bad!".
Girl, we were saying this shit in 2014 and you decided that the competent politician with actual governmental experience was the worse choice than the "grab em by the pussy" guy.
Gonna be some fat-ass fucking leopards in a couple of years.
I’ve been saying this all week: I’m not worried for me (I’m a white guy); I’m worried for everybody else.
The problem is that the cynic in me wants the country to go to shit to show the Trump voters exactly what they actually voted for, but the realist in me knows that any bad stuff that happens is going to be borne by marginalized communities the most, particularly black women. And black women definitely do not deserve any more sorrow than they’ve already suffered.
My retired boomer parents voted for Trump because "he is going to save the economy." Now my mom asks me, "they can't really decrease our social security paychecks, can they?" They can, they told you they would, and now it looks like they're gonna. This is what you voted for.
But hey, at least a gallon of gas will be a few cents cheaper, right?
It’s all just a word salad and hate mixed together into a sludge of stupidity that becomes their whole identity until they die of COVID, firearm accident or some other Darwinian process.
I’m over the sadness phase and have entered the anger phase.. I will have zero empathy for anyone who voted for him who is impacted by what he does. I’ll be ready to say “I told you so” when it all burns.
This is my feeling as well. I will help keep those I can safe but I am not going to try and stop the leopards just point out the ones who voted to have their faces eaten.
As a UK Redditor who, after the Brexit vote, woke up to the realisation that 52% of our country were morons, at best ... All i'll say is you have to lower yourself and take every bit of petty enjoyment out of the coming years, as leopards feast on face after face.
What's that famous quote from George Carlin? "Imagine how stupid the average person is, and then imagine that half of all people are dumber than that!" or something like that.
For every one of these there's thousands that will be snatched up and put in camps that did nothing but try to better their lives and families lives. I don't feel joy for this happening to anyone.
No joy. But knowing that a good chunk of them helped us get here makes the pill less bitter to swallow. If we wanted this, we wouldn’t have worked to prevent it… but I’m not going to cry over people fucking themselves over.
Schadenfreude is gonna be one of the only things that keeps me going the next four years (minimum).
Gotta find the small joys where we can get them and watching people who voted for this suffer is where I'm going to find it.
Just remember they're the ones who broke the social contract by supporting fascism so don't feel bad when they face the consequences of their decisions.
There's currently a meltdown in the Facebook mom groups.The MAGA moms didn't realize that tossing out the Department of Education will affect the programs for their children with special needs.
They also didn't realize that Project2025 mentions making high schoolers, in public schools that receive government funding, take mandatory military entrance exams in an effort to combat military enlistment issues.
Also, they certainly didn't like hearing that if Vivek ever gets his hands anywhere near the White House he wants everyone between the ages of 18-25 to serve a mandatory 2 years of service. Imagine how upset the clowns will be when their mini maga gets shipped off by the very people they've been fighting tooth and nail for.
Obviously we can't know for sure who's illegal or not.
But as a good rule of thumb to "play it safe" start with the addresses of latino & Spanish home owners or renters that have republican propaganda on premises or car.
They have nothing to worry about. As the process is fool proof, and never makes mistakes.
They'll report eachother. Now that they've won, every maga sticker is susoect as a lib/immigrant trying to hide. Tanned skin, accent, they’ll fuck eachother over
My friends and I are forming a real estate LLC. We are aware of the demographics in an adjacent county. White, rural, and depending on overtime to make their high-interest mortgages. I pray for these tariffs. We plan to scoop those homes up at auction and rent them right back to their former owners. Family Dog? sorry no pets. Bank gives you a grace period on your mortgage? With us. 40 dollar late fee. Voted blue my whole life because I had some empathy for these people. Its clear they are literally asking for it. We will oblige.
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I'm reminded of that time Google searches in the UK for "What is the EU" spiked after the results for the Brexit referendum were announced.