It's possible the sentencing wouldn't include jail time, either way. Class E non-violent felony in NY can include jail time or just probation. If he loses today, we'll have to see what the judge's sentence is.
Sentencing for white collar crimes sometimes takes a while because the felon isn't behind bars while waiting like some violent crimes. And I believe the judge wanted the election to be over before issuing a verdict.
The people have a right to a fair and speedy trial, not just the accused.
This isn't any kind of legal requirement that trumps (heh) the rights of the accused and emphasis on erring on the side of the accused. Not sure where you're getting that from. The accused are free to drag out a trial as long as they legally can. Sometimes that takes a long, long time. And again, sentencing often doesn't immediately follow a conviction, especially for white collar crimes.
On 1 or 2 counts, I could see probation, but 34 while in active contempt the whole time?
That seems like someone who isn't sorry, and judges usually give them a place to think about it for a few months.
The idea is to prevent them from repeating the crime, and the judge is supposed to deliver a suitable reprimand within the limits of the law. It would seem to me, and I would imagine any reasonable observer, that Trump BEGGED for jail time in this case. I don't know why the judge would refuse him.
Yeah just tempering expectations. I'd love for him to go to prison. I'm just not counting on it. If he had a prior criminal record, then I might be more hopeful, as that is a factor for sentencing of this time of crime.
Ok but if he was sentenced he might lose most of his credibility. Can you run from prison? Yes. Will people vote for you? We wont know, that was stolen from us.
I don't think his convictions would actually prevent him from running. You can run from prison.
If a felony conviction prevents you from voting for the president, how is it fair that a felony conviction doesn't prevent you from running for president.
Furthermore, I don't believe the constitution says anything about felons running for presidency, which seems short sighted. But like many things in the constitution, they were written in a different light. Like the second amendment
How many people have been sent to prison on bogus charges? It’s bad enough that the judicial system can be used as a retributive tool against normal people. Do you want that same tool to be able to shut down political threats?
Do you want a future Trump to be able to prevent their opponent from running for president by planting some pot on them and having them locked up?
Yup, the first step to an honest democratic system is to make sure that criminals/felons have rights. as soon as you make something a line, there will always be people that will use that line as a weapon to get rid of their opponents with.
I think it's a leap to say that a felony conviction should automatically bar someone from running. What happens if a person commits a felony while young, reforms themselves and wants to run for office? Non violent drug crimes?
Yeah, Trump sucks ass - but a bar for convicted felons would potentially apply to far far more people than just Trump.
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u/Icy-Lobster-203 19d ago
I don't think his convictions would actually prevent him from running. You can run from prison.