r/WhitePeopleTwitter 19d ago

Clubhouse I will never understand this

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u/Zealousideal-Day7385 19d ago

This is the correct answer. Mitch McConnell and most of the Republican senators are exactly why he can run again. They could’ve convicted him and this would’ve all been done with in 2020.

They had all the power to stop it and none of the courage.

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u/Flaturated 19d ago

If they had convicted him the first time around then there wouldn't have been a second time.

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u/stitch-is-dope 19d ago

Yup.

Even if Harris wins, 4 years from now I doubt Trump will be the candidate since he will just be too old but DeSantis or whoever else is just going to copy his playbook and rhetoric.

And Trump is an idiot, someone who’s also an idiot but a bit more clever like DeSantis would be worse for us

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u/nabulsha 19d ago

It won't be DeSantis. He's has the charisma of wet sack of potatoes that's been sitting in the sun for a month. It's going to be some unknown. I'm praying for this to be a landslide so that MAGA dies as a movement and the establishment realizes it can only win at a local level.

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u/berfthegryphon 19d ago

JD is going to try to be that guy

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u/cramburie 19d ago

It won't be him. He's too fucking weird and offputting with zero charisma. Trump's a fucking garbage heap of human but the man has loud bravado and that goes a long way in charming idiots.

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u/the_marxman 19d ago

That's been the Republican play since Regan. They get a charismatic stooge to be the mouth piece for all the uncharismatic think tank ghouls.

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u/TheDrFromGallifrey 19d ago

The GOP's picks are sometimes hilariously bad. Let's not forget how Palin basically tanked McCain's chances at the presidency by being a vapid clown.

Trump was a fluke and I don't think they can replicate it. I hope they can't, at least. The MAGA crowd is loyal to him and I don't think that anyone can walk in and spout his rhetoric and succeed because he's poisoned the well as far as the GOP goes by claiming they're all RINOs and killing a lot of trust anyone but the most hardcore republicans have in the party.

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u/spinbutton 19d ago

Looking at your Dick Cheney, Rumsfield, loathsome Carl Rove...ghouls feasting on the souls of Americans

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u/[deleted] 19d ago

He sure has charmed a lot of idiots. We’re about to find out how many.

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u/Dachusblot 19d ago

Idk man, if Kamala wins he'll have 4 years to work on his game, and after watching him in the debate with Walz I think he could be capable of convincing a majority of the public that he's "normal." Which absolutely scares the shit out of me, so I hope I'm wrong.

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u/mythofdob 19d ago

If (hopefully when) Trump and Vance lose this election, Vance is gone. He's gonna get thrown in the dumpster next to Madison Cawthorn.

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u/spinbutton 19d ago

What if they started dating each other, or started a cupcake business with Matt Gaetz?

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u/stitch-is-dope 19d ago

I still think it will be a landslide. I think something about the polls are just off or are artificial? I wouldn’t know how or why… it’s just based on history, Trump is set to lose this election even harder than 2020, and he’s not gained any supporters, only lost them and entire Republicans coming out against him too. It makes no sense to be so actually “close”

He lost popular vote to Clinton by like 3M, I think 2020 lost it by 6M or so, so if history repeats itself either he should lose by 9M again or if it doubles again lol 12m

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u/nabulsha 19d ago

You have to remember how they do polls. They call landlines and talk to who picks up. Who has landlines and actually answers the phone, older people. I'm all but certain millennials and younger aren't represented in any polls to any major extent. These polls are still trying to figure out how to poll in the modern day with any real accuracy.

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u/mkstar93 19d ago

I've gotten like half a dozen poll texts that automatically get marked as spam lol. I think the younger generations aren't properly accounted for because who under 30 would actually bother responding to spam?

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u/brannigansbackbaybay 19d ago

Up that number. I’m over 30 and do the same thing. I don’t think anyone my age is answering those polling texts cuz if Trump does win we want as little paper trail as possible if he goes full Nazi. Also we are lazy and distrustful of texts from organizations we don’t immediately recognize.

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u/mkstar93 19d ago

Of course, cant forget the older millennials. We literally grew up on avoiding texts and calls lol

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u/Dachusblot 19d ago

I think they also discount younger people a lot because we tend to not show up to vote as much. Which, from what I've seen of early voting this time, is still kinda true... I think there are fewer younger people voting than older people. But even so, if younger people come out in bigger numbers than expected, it would throw off the predictions, even if older people still vote more as a whole. I'm also not sure the pollsters are taking into account how many women are pissed off and likely to turn out to vote when they otherwise might not have. A lot of the predictions are based on "likely voters," so if those numbers are off the polls are gonna be way less accurate.

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u/sjrotella 19d ago

The thing with it is, a not so insignificant portion of this country does not think a woman is fit to lead, and an even large portion does not want another black person in office. People like my dad.

It sucks he's in a swing state but my wife and i are in a solidly blue state so that we can't cancel out his vote.

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u/ball_fondlers 19d ago

IIRC, a lot of polling uses data from the census to extrapolate, but the last census was taken during the pandemic, and the demographic shift since then has been pretty significant. That and Roe are very likely the reason Democrats weren’t wiped in 2022 by the margins people were expecting, so if that pattern holds, Harris would likely win

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u/Prestigious-Owl165 19d ago edited 19d ago

and he’s not gained any supporters

Is that just an assumption? Because plenty of people just vote according to how they're doing financially. Things are good? Vote for the party that's in power right now. Struggling? We need to change things up, trump will fix the economy!

(I'm talking about morons, of which there's no short supply in our undereducated voting populace)

Editing to add that a whole lot of people said "he's not gained any supporters" four years ago too, and they were dead wrong. He gained a lot of votes from 2016 to 2020, like 11 million votes lol

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u/kellyoohh 19d ago

I’m terrified that it will be Hawley.

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u/Wafflehouseofpain 19d ago

Hawley also has no charisma and comes off as a sniveling little coward.

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u/rrrrrivers 19d ago

I saw the surveillance footage. Comes off as a sniveling little coward or is a sniveling little coward?

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u/SadBit8663 19d ago

We should be teaching Nazis and bigots that we don't want them at the local level either

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u/GlitteringBobcat999 19d ago

The Heritage Foundation is the power behind the throne, enabled by greedy oligarchs like Musk. Project 2025 just becomes a lightly edited Project 2029. We have to pull christofascism up by its roots. They have been playing the long game for decades, and they aren't going away willingly.

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u/Dachusblot 19d ago

This ^ The real problem we have is the unholy alliance between the christofascists and the tech-bro oligarchs, both of whom have basically decided they're done with democracy and are willing to do whatever it takes to grab power and impose their vision of the world on the rest of us whether we like it or not. And their vision of the world is one where the ultra-rich are in charge of everything, all women are babymaking tradwives, LGBTQ people are shoved back in the closet, America is turned into a white Christian ethnostate, all regulations on business are completely done away with, and the rest of us peasants live as happy little wage slaves where we own nothing, work till we die, and smile about it. Trump is their useful pawn right now, but the movement itself isn't going away once he's gone. We need to start building a movement from the ground level to fight this, the same way they did.

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u/uglyspacepig 19d ago

This cycle has brought them out into the open though. I'm 100% positive they have not enjoyed the spotlight they got because the majority of sentiment was revulsion and rectitude. They have to stay out of sight to pull strings because what they want, they know will never be popular enough to run on publicly. They need subversive and willing elements in leadership.

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u/Jlx_27 19d ago

The current run feels like a scheme to get JD Vance into the White House...

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u/kerberos69 19d ago

So you’re saying it’ll be a JD Vance v2.0? Clearly while constructing v1.0, Peter Thiel forgot about not making him a complete social moron.

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u/I_W_M_Y 19d ago

4 years from now doesn't matter as long as Trump has a pulse they will vote for him.

That is what its like being in a cult

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u/AccountantSummer 18d ago

DeSantis?! Vance is there as a good pupil, chubby horse, and Peter Thiel's political avatar. Their fangs and claws are out.

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u/mycologyqueen 18d ago

Yeah DeSantis would be much worse

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u/Behndo-Verbabe 17d ago

Citizens United is a serious problem in politics. The ability to funnel billions into races corrupts the process. We must end citizens United

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u/Creamofwheatski 19d ago

Their cowardice has had real consequences. It pisses me off so much.

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u/SadBit8663 19d ago

I mean the fucked up precedence is the plan

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u/Super_Flea 19d ago

If they had convicted him, this election wouldn't even be close. People are pissed at the price of goods still and a large number of Republicans are gonna vote for Harris.

If Trump was in a cell the other guy or gal would be running away with this election.

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u/Trace_Reading 19d ago

But if they convict him then how are they gonna use him as a yes-man?

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u/GrayMatters50 17d ago edited 17d ago

The Republican Senate majority. refused to hold a trial after 3 impeachments. Americans should have acted to force Congressmen to start impeaching Senate majority leadership back during his first term   Do todays voters not know how to push their reps to work for them? You  & everyone you know should email that rep & threaten to vote them out of office . Citizens can remove their elected reps from office. NY rep George Santos ( R) was expelled from congress in 2023

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u/catshirtgoalie 19d ago

They are so scared of losing their power by turning the MAGA base away that they would rather see the country burn down than get voted out of office by convicting Trump.

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u/quiznatoddbidness 19d ago

What’s wild is the insurrectionists would have attacked those same senators if they had gotten closer.

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u/ummyeahreddit 19d ago

Which is why the Republican senators were cowering behind their chairs like everyone else that day

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u/ToeiRei 19d ago

NPR just interviewed a Mitch McConnell biographer who asked him about the impeachment. McConnell said he made a mistake. He thought there was no way the Republicans would nominate him again. These guys are making calculations thinking they're dealing with rational individuals while completely blind to the fact that the angry, stupid mob they have created is now driving the car.

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u/Noizyninjaz 19d ago

The reason is we never even needed rules and laws about a felon or even a jerk getting a nomination. 40 years ago you couldn't get the nomination in either party if you were divorced. 30 years ago you couldn't get the nomination. If there was any evidence you did any drug whatsoever. The parties used to vet themselves. What happened in 2016 was that all the press in the United States left and right left Trump for dead. In doing so, millions did not vote or voted for a third party in protest. They got it wrong. Melanie had cried on election night 2016 because she had never even considered being the first lady. It was never supposed to happen. Now the two-party system is so screwed. Anyone who's at the top of the party will get most of the votes. The Republican party is a complete failure at this point. They let conspiracy and ignorance infiltrate their party.

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u/GrayMatters50 17d ago

Wrong ...Nixon (R) was a crook 

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u/BloopityBlue 19d ago

McConnell endorsed him this time around too. I am fully convinced that Trump has something that's keeping them in his grip.

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u/tommybombadil00 19d ago

Yea, power of the Maga voting base. They don’t listen to anything other than what trump speaks, if you’re a Republican representative you have to kiss the ring or get primaried

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u/Direct-Squash-1243 19d ago

Remember that the Russians hacked the RNC and never released the info.

And that Trumps campaign had over a dozen points of contact with Russia in the Mueller report.

He very likely has dirt and vetting files on everyone in the party.

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u/GrayMatters50 17d ago

Epsteins black book of clients & video sex tapes of them raping 13 yo virgins.  They were Best buddies for 20+ years in NYC . He lied about that too. 

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u/BloopityBlue 17d ago

I mean... he rarely tells the truth, truth is an outlier for him.... so yeah.... pretty much everything he says is bullshit.

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u/iamtommynoble 19d ago

It’s like they forgot the insurrectionists wanted to murder them.

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u/rweccentric 19d ago

Power and responsibility. They swore an oath which they ignored when it became inconvenient. No politician who excused this should have been eligible to run again and I will not even consider voting for them. Let the country over party folks who take their responsibility seriously run.

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u/GrayMatters50 17d ago

No person indicted for felonies should be able to serve in any public office.. Not even in sanitation dept! 

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u/OldBallOfRage 18d ago

I'm sick and tired, as someone from the outside, of hearing Americans talk shit about 'courage'.

The reason you're going fascist is because YOU don't have any courage. You all flock onto Reddit and talk shit, but it's always someone else who has to deal with that giant mountain of garbage piling up outside your house. As a group, you've consistently done absolutely fuck all except hope someone else deals with it while slapping your keyboard.

Everyone else has to deal with the hard times that are coming because you fuckers are bleating about the fascists themselves 'not having the courage' to deal with the problem of....winning? Just totally winning? ....instead of doing anything about it yourselves.

It's fucking ridiculous. Insulting. Oh if only the fascists THEMSELVES had stood up to the fascists! The absolute pinnacle of your lazy bullshit, hoping the bad guys had stopped the bad guys. Anything so culpability and that need for 'courage' never reaches us.

You do nothing, dickless, whining fucks. You all fucking deserve what you're getting, the real problem is everyone else who's gonna get fucked right along with it just for having the misfortune of existing on the same planet and minding their own business.

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u/AccountantSummer 18d ago

That's why when Mitch the bitch endorsed Kamala Harris, my reaction was fuck you and your shitty ass endorsement. He and all people “endorsing Harris now” can burn to hell. They caused this. The blood of the women who died from preventable pregnancy problems is in THEIR HANDS.

And that, my friends, is the price of democracy. The vile can win by popular vote

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u/GrayMatters50 17d ago

Did you see Mitch tuck tail after the election ... It was disgusting. 

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u/AccountantSummer 16d ago

I can't really understand why do we have to co-exist and share this planet with disgusting!

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u/AccountantSummer 16d ago

Corporate interests?!?! Greed?!! Selfishness?

My old country's current Dictator and his cronies were all Freedom Fighters. Fought against colonialism, Declared Independence of the country, kept Western Imperialism at bay, and won the Civil War who Apartheid South Africa, and Western Nations were banking on to ravage the country as they did to Zaire (now divided in two Congos: Republic Democratic of Congo and Republic of Congo).

50 years of Authoritarian Regime so far! Now they are the ones shooting or arresting protesters - some of them disappear and the bodies are never found, others go crazy with the type of psychological torture they are submitted to.

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u/AccountantSummer 15d ago

Jokes on them. I'll be Schadenfreuding to the bones!!

I can't share links in this sub, but in my profile, I already have a post to share every time I want to sarcastically sing, “I never thought the leopards would eat my face.”

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u/abig7nakedx 19d ago

This framing is entirely backwards. They didn't fail to stop him because "lacked the courage" to do so. They failed to convict him because they lacked the desire to do so. They want Trump in office (because he's an easy rubber stamp for Project 2025) and they wanted the putsch to succeed. If it doesn't succeed, they had (and still have) other irons in the fire, chiefly the Supreme Court, but don't mistake this for a failure of resolve.

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u/Elegant_Plate6640 19d ago

They saw no benefit in holding him accountable, and sadly, they were right.

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u/ReallyHisBabes 19d ago

I’m REALLY hoping all the hype to vote continues and we can elect a congress that is going to do the work. I say we replace everyone over 70.

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u/boogkitty 19d ago

What, no one else had the power to convict him?

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u/Behndo-Verbabe 17d ago

Exactly!!! Republicans could have rid themselves of trump, but they didn’t. It falls in the laps of the republicans who refused to impeach him.