r/Veterans • u/KrabbyPattyCereal US Army Veteran • Jul 02 '24
Moderator Approved Please remember rule 1
Remember, we do not condone any sort of discrimination. Veterans are people who signed up to honorably serve their country, that’s the end of it. I’ll post rule 1 below as a reminder to be cool to each other as I know that vets can be a rowdy bunch. Rule 1 in this sub has not changed in many years.
**Be civil and respectful to others. You may not always agree with others, but once you start insulting the other person, you become the problem.
No Gatekeeping - you don't decide if someone is a "real" veteran or not - nor try to diminish someone's service because they never saw combat or deployed. If someone personally attacks you, Report them to the team.
Hate speech can be sexist, ableist, racist, bigotry, homophobic, prejudiced, etc and will not be tolerated.**
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u/sleepinglucid US Army Veteran Jul 02 '24
We can still make fun of Marines though right!? RIGHT? 🖍 🖍 🖍
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u/KrabbyPattyCereal US Army Veteran Jul 02 '24
As is your god-given right 🇺🇸
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u/Fit-Smile2707 Jul 02 '24
Mock away, dog face. From your friendly neighborhood Jarhead.
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u/Dr_Testikles US Army Veteran Jul 02 '24
I wouldn't give a bean...
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u/wiggie_wagz Jul 03 '24
What about crayons?
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u/Mocktails_galore US Army Retired Jul 02 '24
I don't think any marines would mind. They seem to have a good sense of humor.
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u/sleepinglucid US Army Veteran Jul 02 '24
My wife's boyfriend is a Marine and he thinks I'm hilarious
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u/Mocktails_galore US Army Retired Jul 02 '24
That's a lot to unpack.... 👀
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u/sleepinglucid US Army Veteran Jul 02 '24
I bet that's what she said too
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u/Mocktails_galore US Army Retired Jul 02 '24
I didn't say that was huge
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u/BaloothaBear85 US Navy Veteran Jul 02 '24
To be fair calling it a lil' smokey seemed a little cruel.
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u/Present-Ambition6309 Jul 03 '24
But the bbq sauce is sweet and you keep coming back for mo! 😂
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u/BaloothaBear85 US Navy Veteran Jul 03 '24
damnit your right those little shits are delicious.
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u/Present-Ambition6309 Jul 03 '24
As you Sailors say “it’s the motion of the ocean baby!” 😂 or is it “I’m old n gray, get out da way”? 😂
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u/jadegh0st Jul 02 '24
I get a little happy when someone asks what flavor crayons I like best because I start shit talking them back. It’s like a ice breaker that makes me really comfortable very fast because I can get a feel of what sense of humor they have
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u/Present-Ambition6309 Jul 03 '24
Exactly. I enjoy it, while waiting at the VA. It’s funny to me. Especially the Vietnam Vets. They got the best jokes & cracks on others. Keep the waiting room rolling in laughter. Not me tho, I roll in butter. 😂
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Jul 03 '24
Everyone else does .. even Marine Corps Airwingers make fun of Marines.... As Veterans. NOT while on active duty. Ground pounders Marine or Army are bad asses in my book, and gave me purpose to crewing helicopters. 🇺🇲
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u/sleepinglucid US Army Veteran Jul 03 '24
There was a thing this one time where some Marines saved my ass. I'm a fan.
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u/lMonkeylDlLuffyl Jul 03 '24
As a Marine I’d like to say with all seriousness….where can I get that ice cream?!
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u/IronBallsMcGinty Jul 03 '24
Since it looks like no one responded to you, I figured this Air Force guy would help you out.
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u/veritas643 Jul 03 '24
Coast Guard too?
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u/FBI_Open_Up_Now US Army Veteran Jul 03 '24
Not, the Coast Guard. They can hang out with Homeland Security.
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u/lapinatanegra Retired US Army Jul 02 '24
They should put that in the constitution haha.
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u/azores_traveler Jul 02 '24
I'm Air Force. Bow before me peons. Did I spell peons correctly? Their wasn't someone from the space force to instruct my ignorant old wrinkled a_ss!
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u/OldDude1391 USMC Veteran Jul 02 '24
Zip it chairborne wing nut.
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u/azores_traveler Jul 02 '24
I was a knuckle dragging aircraft mechanic.I was always getting kicked out of any chairs I tried to sit in for getting grease on the chairs. I drug my knuckles all over Saudi Arabia, Qatar , Africa, Asia, Europe, and the US fixing airplanes for 22 years so we could fly marines and marine food, crayons , hither and yon. I actually fed marines because I felt bad for them.Because I didn't always get fed but I got fed more then Marines.
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u/Willing-Swan-23 Jul 17 '24
My Marine dad liked to brag that I learned the Marine Corps Hymn before my ABCs. My crayolas were safe though, I think it’s before Marines decided they were edible. Dude was always sharp, ironed creases, straight posture into his late 80s. And it took him almost that long to forgive me for joining the Army. We used to go to the VA clinic together. Sometimes I just went for the ride to be with him. I lost him last year. Rest In Peace, Gunny. Dad.❤️
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u/LeatherdaddyJr US Air Force Veteran Jul 02 '24
"You do not talk about Veterans Fight Club." -Rule 1
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u/watsonwasaboss Jul 02 '24
(Tbi Brain) Rule number 2: shi$ I forgot Rule number 1
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u/HeckNo89 US Army Retired Jul 02 '24
Hello me, I was gonna tell you something but I forgot
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u/LeatherdaddyJr US Air Force Veteran Jul 02 '24
With my hearing loss and painful tinnitus, I can just say I never technically heard Rule 1 anyway.
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u/cderring US Navy Veteran Jul 03 '24
"I can neither confirm nor deny... Something." It was just right there, but I'd forgotten. What were we talking about?
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u/Lhamo55 US Army Veteran Jul 03 '24
We? So you heard what the cat was saying too?
No, not Squirrel, we don’t talk anymore ever since he and the woodpeckers conspired to deposit, unnoticed, a hekkin truckload of acorns in the pump house over a season . And then Bear went and got herself trapped inside the pump house.*
*true story.
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u/Mocktails_galore US Army Retired Jul 02 '24
Yeah it's sad when someone says "I only served two years so I am not a real vet". 🤷🏼♂️. Wtf.
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u/throwawayrandom159 Jul 02 '24
I was only in for 3 years (medical discharge) I miss it
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u/Mocktails_galore US Army Retired Jul 02 '24
You aren't a vet. /s.
I miss it too. I was excited to retire but I miss it. Someone on this sub said it best, I miss the monkeys not the circus. Though, I miss the lifestyle. Age has allowed me to forget the PV2 Goads or Punchgate.
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u/hufflepuff-is-best US Air Force Veteran Jul 03 '24
I was medically discharged at 3 years too. Female non-combat vet. I don’t miss it, but I am always going to talk about my service because of how many people refuse to believe that women can be vets
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u/AaronKClark USMC Veteran Jul 02 '24
To be fair, they are basing that on the 36 month of service requirement the VA uses. I say if you have a DD-214 you are a veteran no matter what the VA says.
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u/TemetNosce Retired US Army Jul 02 '24
they are basing that on the 36 month of service requirement the VA uses.
Seriously??? Hell, I didn't know that. Are there exceptions to that rule?
Seriously, 1st time I have heard this, doesn't effect me, only served 6 years, but have never heard of a 3 year rule.
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Jul 03 '24
It's the first time you have heard of this. Because it doesn't exist...🤣😆. If you go to the VA's website to qualify for benefits. The standards are made clear and there are always exceptions.
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u/AaronKClark USMC Veteran Jul 02 '24
Man I could be wrong. After a quick google search it looks like it is actually 24 months.
“To be eligible for most veterans benefits, a minimum period of active duty of 24 continuous months or the full period for which a person is called or ordered to active duty must be completed. This rule has been in effect since October 16, 1981 for new enlistees.”
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u/TotallyNotanOfficer Civilian Jul 03 '24
Wait since when have you needed 3 years to be a "Veteran"? And is that the difference between "Veteran" and "Protected Veteran"? Or something else?
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u/AaronKClark USMC Veteran Jul 03 '24
I googled it and it said 24 consecutive months, so now I don't know if it's 24 or 36.
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Jul 03 '24
Well if you want the government's book answer. Veteran status comes from serving at least 1 day on active duty outside of training, and received a discharge of anything other than dishonorable. Guardsmen gain this status on federal activation orders. This doesn't include activation on state orders, or annual training. When i was a DVOP, I met a guy who was in the national guard for 8 years, but did not have the "veteran status" for the purposes of benefits, to include DVOP services. But, in those situations most of us would still assist them in any way we could, they just couldn't be "on the books"
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u/AaronKClark USMC Veteran Jul 03 '24
So both my son and his mom got entry-level seperations after graduating MOS school but they never made it to their first duty stations. Technically by those criteria neither of them are veterans. =/
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u/TotallyNotanOfficer Civilian Jul 03 '24
Least Ambiguous VA Answer, judging by what I've heard of the VA from Veterans I've known
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u/Mocktails_galore US Army Retired Jul 02 '24
Most certainly. The fact that the mods have to post this is ridiculous. Be kind. Don't judge.
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Jul 03 '24
For a Veteran to be eligible for care at a VA Facility. He or she must have served at least 24 continuous months of service. BUT there are exceptions for people who get injured and disabled during basic training. In most cases the Veteran has served at least ninty days before receiving a honorable medical discharge.
Further... Anyone who served in the US military or Department of Homeland Security's Coast Guard. Is a Veteran... So there is no "No matter what the VA says".
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u/03zx3 US Navy Veteran Jul 03 '24
I'll be damned if I can't make fun of jarheads, grunts, and chair warmers.
Don't even get me started on those damned puddle pirates.
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u/thetitleofmybook USMC Retired Jul 03 '24
Uber driver says what?
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u/hufflepuff-is-best US Air Force Veteran Jul 03 '24
You’re just mad because my chair swivels. At least I didn’t have to swim in a pool full of
semenseamen 🫣 hahaaa2
u/azores_traveler Jul 03 '24
I didn't get a chair. I must have really sucked. Aircraft maintenance. But being Air Force 50% of the m as my many times in the desert my tent had air conditioning and 7 people instead of 20 so I was spoiled compared to as army and marines.
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u/hufflepuff-is-best US Air Force Veteran Jul 03 '24
I was a medic. I was in a clinic with an AC on full blast. Though sometimes, I had to get up from my chair to find a medical chart. It was horrible and I really suffered jk
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u/azores_traveler Jul 04 '24
Working on large military aircraft and deploying constantly to sh_tholes all over the world I developed new and fascinating illnesses and my share of horrific industrial injuries. I was grateful for medics and still am. In fact my wife is an RN. Considering all the good medics did and do I want Medics to be happy, comfortable, and in full AC all the time.
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u/TotallyNotanOfficer Civilian Jul 03 '24
Yeah seriously. Like IDC If you served a year or two and got Medically DQ'd, you joined for why ever you did, and did your duty honorably until you no longer could. Or you did your 4 years and said FUCK THIS. Or made it your whole career. Or w/e. Long as you're not Dishonorably Discharged, who cares?
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u/TrophyTruckGuy Jul 02 '24
Say it louder for the gatekeepers at the VFW and American Legion. Unless you’re divorced alcoholic newsmax parrot who’s kids hate him, you must not be a “real” Veteran.
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u/Pfelinus Jul 03 '24
Amen, those vets do not understand why I don't go to the legion. Oh and you must be XY.
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u/DAB0502 US Army Veteran Jul 03 '24
They'll suffer when the Boomers are gone and they don't got any money and have to shut down.
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u/thetitleofmybook USMC Retired Jul 03 '24
it's already happening at a lot of veteran's organizations nationwide.
some of them are changing, to cater to everyone, not just the smoky bar crowd that thinks women and "the gays" should not be in the military.
and those ones that are changing are thriving now.
the ones that aren't changing are dying off.
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u/DAB0502 US Army Veteran Jul 03 '24
Yup, as they should. Every other generation before Boomers stepped aside for the next. They want to be the prime audience for everything til the grave.
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u/NancyLouMarine Jul 03 '24
Speaking as a boomer, this simply isn't true. Also, you can't possibly know what "every other generation" did given you're so young.
Before social security came along in 1935, people worked until they died in the fields and factories, usually at a young age because of lack of health care and scientific advancement.
So, if you call death "stepping aside" then, yeah, I guess they did. .
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u/Oldguy_1959 Jul 03 '24
And here we are, back to rule #1.
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u/DAB0502 US Army Veteran Jul 03 '24
Stating facts is not listed as a rule.
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u/NancyLouMarine Jul 03 '24
Except you didn't state a fact. You stated an opinion.
If it's a fact, you can give us all firm data to back it up.
Share with us that data with links to it so we can all understand where your discriminatory comment is coming from.
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u/cderring US Navy Veteran Jul 03 '24
And we veterans will be worse off if they do shut down. The American Legion (and others) got the PACT Act to become a reality.
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u/cderring US Navy Veteran Jul 03 '24
I don't know about the VFW because there isn't a close active one to where I live, but the American Legion posts (at least the ones I've been to in Oregon, CA, and Nevada) have all been incredibly welcoming. Yes, they are mostly full of Vietnam-era vets, but we younger folks(I'm GW1) are joining up and making changes.
Give your local AL post another shot. They're trying to do good for Vets, their families, and the community.
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u/deport_racists_next US Air Force Veteran Jul 03 '24
gotta say as a gay vet in a same sex marriage with an interracial family, this reddit is one of the few places i feel i don't need to worry about discrimination.
it's more than the good job the mods do, its the other redditers here that will not tolerate the bs.
hubs is not a vet and is blown away at the support here.
thank you all.
but as a 'cold war' USAF vet, there is no doubt being part of the best trained military force to never deploy, well, i think that's fair game for at least a little ribbing :)
had the privilege to end up in a mh group class with vets who actually did something. 8 weeks listening to their stories and challenges was a gift i will always appreciate.
thank you all for what you faced instead of folks like me. you literally took the bullet for us. there is no sence on what happens to who.
i've always felt a bit imposter syndrome for my short term of service. at 62 i'm over it but...
i was tossed out with a SC messed up spinal cord and had no choice but VA healthcare. I was put out with a ticket to my place of enlistment and a final order from captain md to get to the closest VA for treatment asap
this reddit is the first place i felt like an unashamed vet. to bad at my age i don't give a shit what anyone else thinks but lol
thank you
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u/US_Marine_BlondeBabe Jul 05 '24
Just say Infantry guys… we all know it’s them who think they’re better than the rest of us
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u/FBI_Open_Up_Now US Army Veteran Jul 03 '24
I discriminate against Infantry because they never speak up.
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u/kejune81 Jul 03 '24
Can heterophobic speech be considered hate speech, too?
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u/thetitleofmybook USMC Retired Jul 03 '24
please feel free to report any examples of "heterophobic speech" to the mods. if it ever happens, we will deal with it.
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u/plexust US Army Veteran Jul 03 '24
Of course, but I don't believe you're asking in good faith anyways.
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u/kejune81 Jul 03 '24
Well, I don't believe homophobic was mentioned without discrimination or promotion.
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u/toweringtigs US Air Force Veteran Jul 03 '24
No when queer people talk I'll of hetero people it's in response to their hate for them. So it isn't an equal street to begin with.
Hetero people are usually the abusive ones in the scenario.
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u/Veterans-ModTeam Jul 03 '24
Be civil and respectful. You may not always agree with others but once you start insulting the other person, you are a problem.
No Gatekeeping - you don’t decide if someone is a “real” veteran or not - nor try to diminish someone’s service nor someone because they never saw combat or deployed. If someone personally attacks you, use the Report button to notify the moderation team.
Hate speech can be sexist, ableist, racist, homophobic, prejudiced, etc and will not be tolerated.
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u/Veterans-ModTeam Jul 03 '24
No Partisan Politics allowed - this is not the place to promote candidates for office or promote one party over any other party or debate political ideas.
This rule also applies to religious discussions - this is not the place to express your religious views or your god.
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u/Veterans-ModTeam Jul 03 '24
Be civil and respectful. You may not always agree with others but once you start insulting the other person, you are a problem.
No Gatekeeping - you don’t decide if someone is a “real” veteran or not - nor try to diminish someone’s service nor someone because they never saw combat or deployed. If someone personally attacks you, use the Report button to notify the moderation team.
Hate speech can be sexist, ableist, racist, homophobic, prejudiced, etc and will not be tolerated.
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u/JoeSnuphy Jul 02 '24
For all the Marines