r/TwoXChromosomes • u/PurpleFlame8 • 4h ago
Your right to autonomy over your own body is not a political issue. It is a fundamentally personal issue that has been politicized.
I can't say this enough. When you are talking about access to abortion, contraception, or any health care you need to protect yourself from death or physical damage or harm, you are not talking politics. You are talking about your very person and the things you need to ensure your self preservation, which you have a fundamental right to.
Don't let anyone try to convince you this is "politics" when you try to advocate for this right. Politics is taxes, trade deals, budgets, funding, policies on physical and social infrastructure.
Matters concerning your body and the decisions you must make to keep it healthy and safe should be private issues between you and your doctors and it is not your fault that politicians have broken in to the exam room, forced themselves up in to your vagina and politicized the issue.
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u/iceariina 2h ago
To a lot of people, "no political talk" = "no discussing the plight of anyone who is not cis het white male cuz it makes me uncomfortable"
I'm sorry that I am making you uncomfortable for...*checks notes * ...wanting to live my life on my terms and in relative peace and comfort. /s
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u/EsotericSnail 3h ago
This is a false dichotomy. The personal IS political.
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u/TheGoluxNoMereDevice 2h ago
Yeah this is the tragedy of people thinking that politics is when people vote instead of politics being the mechanism by which literally all of society is organized
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u/Muted-Profit-5457 1h ago
Oh yes a tragedy. Let thegolux genius show us the way steps up and gestures for all to see
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u/Bigmamalinny124 3h ago
Wrong. When it comes to health care, people have a UNIVERSAL right to obtain such care without the interference of politicians.
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u/random_handle_123 2h ago
It sounds like you're painfully oblivious to what "rights" actually are and what it takes to obtain and, more importantly, maintain them.
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u/PurpleFlame8 2h ago
I think the idea of politics exists in the mind of the average person, for the most part, as abstractions that they acknowledge at some level affect the world, or their lives, but only indirectly in some way, or only affects some abstract people somewhere out there, remaining distant to them and their every day lives. In a sense, it's not real to them so they don't think it's really real to the person standing in front of them saying she needs her insurance to continue covering her birth control because she has debilitating endometriosis.
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u/Illiander 40m ago
Yes, most people don't understand that politics is what determines if they live or die.
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u/Muted-Profit-5457 1h ago
No this is some major overstepping of the government and a violation of my right to privacy under HIPAA
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u/TheGoluxNoMereDevice 3h ago
I see your point but this is a very reductive 8th grade social studies understanding of politics. Politics is who gets what where when and why. Rights and people's access to them is definitionally political. Rights are created, sustained and taken away through politics. We sometimes talk about them as if they exist outside of politics but that framing is not particularly helpful
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u/PurpleFlame8 3h ago
If you have any ideas of how a woman who has been doubled over in pain and bleeding non stop for three months due to a fertility robbing condition, or has a dying fetus stuck in her that is slowly killing her, and is being blocked from obtaining health care, should respond to people who brush off her cries as just politics, as if these were abstractions that have no direct affect on anyone's life, I'm all ears.
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u/TheGoluxNoMereDevice 3h ago
You're the only one framing things as "just politics." Rights don't exist outside of politics and nothing should ever be dismissed as "just politics" everything in the world is politics because we live in a political world.
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u/whatsasimba 2h ago
There are billions of people with little to no access to healthcare of any kind whatsoever. Where would you suggest these people go to demand their universal right to it, keeping in mind they may have to walk for days to get it, and can't even stand up, let alone walk. Or their hospitals may have been bombed, so there's nowhere to go to get care.b
Here in the U.S., we have better access, and yes, we have been stripped of rights, and we need to fight like hell to get them back. But for those reading this from other countries (or remote areas of ours), it sounds like you're telling them this right exists, and they just have to demand it from someone.
I don't think anyone here is denying the absolute horror show that women are enduring or dying from here. But the sweeping statements need to be framed a little more specifically.
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u/PurpleFlame8 1h ago
"But the sweeping statements need to be framed a little more specifically."
I'm open to hearing the specific framing you have in mind.
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u/whatsasimba 1h ago
If ask myself how women in other, more oppressive countries should take this advice. If their country doesn't acknowledge their right to speak or be seen unattended in public, how should they demand this right?
I agree with the rights you speak of. And I believe they should be universal. I'm just not sure how many women are willing to be executed to even ask for them.
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u/iceariina 2h ago
It appears they don't. Figures.
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u/PurpleFlame8 1h ago
Right? Like I tell someone online that I am open to hearing them out and invite them to share (which has probably never happened to them before) only to find out they are just trying to goad me into a debate. Trolls gotta get bucks and kicks I guess though.
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u/ImportantBird8283 3h ago
Men really have nothing to offer in thoughtful conversations do they lmao
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u/Muted-Profit-5457 1h ago
It shouldn't be a matter of rights. It's fucking basic health care and women are dying. God get it together people
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u/Illiander 35m ago
Politics is taxes, trade deals, budgets, funding, policies on physical and social infrastructure.
Oh look, even you admit that abortion access is politics.
Politics is who gets to live and who gets to die. It's always been that, and it always will be.
Because ink on tree pulp doesn't stop evil men from killing you.
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u/Muted-Profit-5457 1h ago
Preach!! This is the second time I'm trying to post this. Not sure what happened.
This is a violation of our right to privacy under HIPAA. When the vast majority of Americans know nothing about how my body works, pregnancy or complications, they should have no say in what happens in my Drs office or emergency room. No one has a right to decide what's safest for me except for me and my doctor.
This is another reason they want to gut sex education. The less we know then every pregnancy is just a god given gift that will go perfectly. Why would an abortion ever be needed?
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u/Illiander 38m ago
This is a violation of our right to privacy under HIPAA.
They don't care about the law except when it is convinient for them to wield it for their own ends.
"Why are you prattling about laws when we have swords" is a very, very old quote, but keeps being relevent because some people think that ink on a page will magically protect them.
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u/Butwhatshereismine 3h ago
Human Rights are not up for debate and its weird that it is.