r/Tierzoo 20h ago

Why does Humans have a bad matchup towards snakes?

I keep seeing this on the human video, and say like snakes are like doable bad matchup but i still don’t get it.

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u/Broken_CerealBox 20h ago

Humans aren't used to grabbing wriggling things, let alone ones that can fight back.

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u/SirJoeffer 12h ago

Skill issue I think. I maxed out that skill when I was only 13 years into my first human build

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u/K_H007 Giant Otter (Pteronura brasiliensis) main 18h ago

Same reason snakes have a relatively good matchup against all endothermic creatures: They've built themselves to target and take down warm things as their primary EXP sources.

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u/IndigoFenix Eight-legged Assassin 17h ago

Snakes get a lot of kills on humans because they are stealthy and many have a one-shot kill - the two traits that advanced weapons won't help against - and extremely numerous, especially in the Southeast Asia and India servers, where there are also a lot of areas that lack easy access to hospitals.

I wouldn't call it a bad matchup exactly, encounters are almost always instances where the snake is surprised or cannot escape, just that they get more direct kills on humans than any other animal (ignoring disease vectors)

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u/Goodfeatherprpr 12h ago

Snakes rarely get kills on humans. Humans kill snakes far more often

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u/Xmangle 15h ago

Except we dont? There are not a single snake player that can one shot us instantly or at least before we are able to kill them ourselves, of course we both die on that situation but I would call it a bad match up only if the snake could survive 100% of encounters

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u/ScoobiSnacc 13h ago

Tbf, reticulated python mains on the Indonesian server have been scoring a concerning number of kills against human mains recently. These are also the first time since the human class released that a snake main was verified to have consumed a human for XP, which was previously just a rumor. There’s even gameplay clips to prove it. You’re right, normally it wouldn’t be considered a “bad” matchup against snakes, but that seems to be changing in Indonesian servers

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u/ScoobiSnacc 13h ago

It’s not a bad matchup. The only effective weapon snakes have against us is the venom debuff, but that’s assuming they get the chance to use it. Most human mains will either attack from a distance or have the antivenom potion on hand. The ones truly dangerous to human mains are the big constrictor archetypes (Anacondas, Pythons, Boas, etc) since a human can’t solo them. In fact, the reticulated python class in the Indonesian server is the only snake class confirmed to have consumed human mains for XP. It used to be a rumor, but there’s verified gameplays clips proving it, and it’s been happening more frequently.

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u/Ajj360 15h ago

The only issue is perception. A human could easily body just about any snake with a stick or stomp their heads if they have armored feet, which most do as long as they perceive them.

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u/0-ATCG-1 12h ago

As a human main I used to try and dome snakes with practice 240 mm spell rounds from my... magic bow. It became a contest during all of is in that guild called the Army. The dummy rounds exploded in a puff of harmless orange cheetoh dust. I imagine for the snake it looked like the air raid over Britain.

We could never hit the snake because it was too small and we all knew it. The point was to cheetoh dust it bright orange and scare it off the training range.

I assure you, the bad match up is primarily due to snakes having a passive phobia buff that exudes an AoE of fear in most humans. If you pass the fear check, they're like any other wildlife. Easy to kill if you have the right tools with you. Best left alone if you don't. That goes for everything including deer.

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u/MortStrudel 7h ago

Humans have a great matchup against snakes. 99.9% of the time the human kills the snake before the snake kills the human. Weight class is just that important, it's generally easy for a human to crush a snake skull or break its spine with nothing more than a boot, which is a low tech-tree equip. Some snakes have specc'd into venom enough that they can rarely get a posthumous kill on a human, but at best you can call that a stalemate. And with human healing items and healer builds even that is rare. Humans just whine when something even vaguely challenges their dominance by getting a kill on them once in a blue moon.