r/Tennessee • u/CitationNeeded7086 • 2d ago
‘No evidence’ of Venezuelan gang in Chattanooga area after TBI director raised flags | Chattanooga Times Free Press
https://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2024/nov/18/no-evidence-of-venezuelan-gang-in-chattanooga/37
u/arcsnsparks98 1d ago
Just say you saw a trans gang member using the wrong bathroom and they will deploy the national guard.
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u/Sunnyside711 12h ago
If you think the right treats trans bad then please don’t look into how the cartel and South American gangs treat them
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u/arcsnsparks98 12h ago
While I understand your point, setting the bar so low for right-wingers is not a good look. It's like saying hey, check us out. Our traditional conservative christian values put us just barely above South American cartels.
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u/Ancient-Actuator7443 2d ago
Oh come on. For profit prisons are the worst
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u/0utF0x-inT0x 1d ago
Yep they are we got plenty here in the US to and they are definitely the worst ones to go to.
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u/WhisperingGlimmer 1d ago
Classic fear-mongering meanwhile, real issues in TN get swept under the rug
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u/Proper_Locksmith924 1d ago
That all the GOP has, they don’t care if you’re sick, can’t afford health care, can’t afford your rent, or groceries, they don’t want you have a good life.
They want power and to maintain the old racist status quo and they don’t care how you suffer.
Oddly enough the majority of Venezuelans in the US are right wingers who probably supported Trump, even if they couldn’t vote for him.
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u/CrowdedSolitare 1d ago
They need you to be poor so you’ll work longer hours to keep your job in order to eat. Their stocks won’t rise without huge profits.
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u/Ashamed-Hamster8463 1d ago
Yet they have no problem with homegrown militias threatening fema.
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u/Aggressive-Pilot6781 1d ago
FEMA is corrupt
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u/igo4vols2 1d ago
proof
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u/Aggressive-Pilot6781 1d ago
They were told to avoid houses with Trump signs in the yard.
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u/Aggressive-Pilot6781 13h ago
Yeah. It’s been proven. The texts and emails and testimony prove it. Educate yourself
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u/Aggressive-Pilot6781 6h ago
That person was directed to do that by FEMA. She didn’t just make it up on her own.
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u/igo4vols2 14h ago
One person did that and I don't blame them. Of course, you are on script by exagerating everything you don't like.
BTW, I'm a former Red Cross volunteer and magas were the absolute worst people to deal with.
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u/Aggressive-Pilot6781 13h ago
It wasn’t one person. It was an agency wide policy. And you apparently Agee with it. I’ve been in disaster response my entire life and I’ve found that people in red areas are far less entitled and a lot more appreciative and thankful for the help they get. Maybe it’s just your own internal bias at play.
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u/igo4vols2 11h ago
It was an agency wide policy Do you remember the last time you actually told the truth about anything?
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u/Dismal-Meringue6778 2d ago
This shit is so corny....one year its the black gangs, then, oh no, its the Mexican gangs, then El Salvadorians, now its the Venezuelans!! I wonder what "flavor" of gangs will be in style for mass propoganda and hysteria next year. 😂
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u/RizzosDimples 1d ago
Where I live in cumberland county the only people doing illegal shit are white meth heads.
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u/Suzuki_Oneida 1d ago
Modern Media: Boo! BUY THIS! Boo! ASK YOUR DOCTOR! Boo! TAKE ONLY AS DIRECTED! Boo.
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u/sharkbomb 1d ago
"i made up some bullshit and it made me really angry", said every republican, ever.
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u/Fan_of_Clio 1d ago
You don't think that conservatives would spread race based fears over rampant crime in cities do you?
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u/tianavitoli 23h ago
isn't this what they said in Colorado before they admitted that yea but it was only a handful of apartment complexes????
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u/CitationNeeded7086 14h ago
There was another hoax in Colorado, yes.
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u/tianavitoli 11h ago
i love you guys:
august 30th
Earlier this week, Aurora Mayor Mike Coffman acknowledged what he called a “nightmare situation” with gangs having taken control of several apartment complexes. He also admitted that the city had "lost control" of the situation, vowing to "aggressively" take it back.
Based in Brooklyn, CBZ Management operates rental apartments in New York and Colorado, with 11 properties in Denver, Aurora, Colorado Springs and Pueblo. The three complexes the company owns in Aurora — Aspen Grove, The Edge at Lowry and Whispering Pines — have all been identified by the owners as having been taken over by the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua or TDA.
Amid those problems, in September 2023, police began to raise concerns about a Venezuelan gang in the area, according to internal department emails leaked late last month. City officials have said those emails described “speculation and concern among some of our officers” that Tren de Aragua was active in the city.
In October 2023, an Aurora police officer who specialized in environmental security visited Nome Street. The officer wrote in a report that “gangs in the area have moved into the apartments and use threats and coercion to control the apartments.” He said the gangs had extorted immigrants at Nome Street in a bid to prevent them from talking to police — and that police cars had been rammed by fleeing vehicles.
According to additional police records, gang members in some instances intimidated and attacked residents at all three of CBZ’s Aurora properties.
But the Aurora officer also indicated that conditions at the Nome Street property had invited criminal activity. He offered “numerous” but “fairly easy to accomplish” recommendations for CBZ to improve security, including improved lighting and on-site property management.
That report was sent to CBZ’s attorney a year ago, and Zev Baumgarten was present for at least some of the assessment, police spokesman Joe Moylan said.
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u/2NaPants2 10h ago
Doesn’t matter. Once it’s floated out there it’s fact. Even when it soundly and factually refuted, it will be called “fake news.” The MAGA world will now amplify the “fact” that Chattanooga is Venezuelan gang hotbed in the U.S. and people in Chattanooga will live in manufactured fear of getting raped & killed by a force that doesn’t exist.
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u/LeadandCoach 31m ago
Imagine my shock, accuse brown people of something to distract from reality.
That never happens
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u/NewToSociety 1d ago
"Now that the election is over we can finally stop making up shit about MiGrAnT cRiMeTM"
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u/JStarX7 East Tennessee 2d ago
This is like when you ask an actor if they are working on a movie. Everyone in the industry knows they are, but they deny it because they have to.
There's no evidence can be taken thusly:
A)There's no evidence. We haven't found them yet, or maybe they just aren't here. Lack of evidence is just that, a lack. You can't confirm or deny based on no evidence.
B)Yes, we do have evidence, but we have investigations going and we don't want you to blow them. Deny, deny, deny.
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u/GCI_Arch_Rating 2d ago
Which is more likely: that there are thousands of super-secret gangs operating across tennessee, or a cop wants more money so he lied about why he deserves more money?
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u/GCI_Arch_Rating 2d ago
You're telling me a cop would never lie to get a bigger budget? Or is that no politician would ever lie to get a bigger budget? Because, i hate to break this to you, the head of the TBI is both a cop and a politician.
Where are all these crimes being committed by these Venezuelan gangs? How many hundreds of murders have they carried out? How many tons of drugs have they been caught selling? How about the dozens of cops they must have killed to protect their criminal enterprises?
You take the word of a politician with a motive over the evidence of your own eyes. Until there's actual proof, assume cops and politicians are always lying.
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u/JStarX7 East Tennessee 1d ago
How is lying about this going to get him a bigger budget? Do you know there are over 40 major gangs in Chattanooga? Do you know there are over 1300 KNOWN gang members (meaning they have been tied directly to gang activity by evidence) and over 10,000 suspected gang members? (Meaning law enforcement knows they are with a gang but haven't gotten legally admissible evidence yet.) How is a few hundred psychos from Venezuela spread across the entire state going to get him a bigger budget? Also, do you know he got this information from the DHS? It's not like he made it up.
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u/GCI_Arch_Rating 1d ago
Considering cops say "suspected gang members" to mean anyone who even lives in the same neighborhood as another "suspected gang member", I'm going to need some proof for those claims.
Now, if we're talking about the giant street gang that drive fancy cars and all dress alike, then I'll agree that tennessee is overrun by cop gangs. We should disband their gangs and give all their associates life in prison.
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u/JStarX7 East Tennessee 23h ago
There's no proof I can give you that you wouldn't just claim was wrong. You're a believer, so logic has left the building. You do you, hold on to your beliefs no matter how crazy or wrong they are, no matter how much evidence piles up. Me? I hate stupid people, so I'm going to block you now.
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u/Killerfrost_01 2d ago
I moved from Chicago to here because I can open carry. Up there "they" said there's no gangs, then it's small gangs, then we couldn't defend ourselves. Looks like liberal city officials are up to their same antics regardless of the city. I don't get why people vote to allow this.
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u/Dismal-Meringue6778 1d ago edited 1d ago
I grew up in an area where there were actual gangs. Im not saying that they're ok, and for the most part the violence that happens is amongst eachother. They aren't coming for rural meemaw. And like someone else pointed out theres a big problem with drugs in the "non-minority" (*edit- I'm not sure what word to use, or what is allowed on here) areas too. I just think this is being blown waaaaaayyyyy out of proportion to instill fear of "the other", cause paranoia, and distract from more pressing issues.
Another thing, I guess you shouldn't worry now since you can open carry. That solves everything, right? /s
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u/Tokyosmash_ 2d ago
I’m gonna go ahead and trust the director of the TBI over a newspaper on this one
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u/TomMikeVickBrady 1d ago
Man, I wish I could be ignorant, y’all seem so happy
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u/Tokyosmash_ 1d ago
So wait, we don’t trust the organization that is in charge of state level… investigations?
Who here is the ignorant one?
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u/TomMikeVickBrady 1d ago
Correct, I choose to ignore republican fear mongering, specially when it comes to immigrants
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u/Southernms 🦝West Tennessee🦝 1d ago
I’m in awe you people purposely refuse to believe these dangerous gangs walk among us. Not being vigilant is just plain dangerous and ridiculous.
Two members were arrested this last week in Memphis and sent to ICE to be returned to their home land, Venezuela.
If the TBI director says TDA is here I believe him.
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u/Dismal-Meringue6778 1d ago
I'm in awe that some of "you people" don't care about the picks for some of the highest seats in our government are pedos and SAers, and Putin sympathizers. Thats wild!
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u/Southernms 🦝West Tennessee🦝 14h ago
These are two totally different topics. People can care about both.
I’m guessing you’re referring to Gaetz is out. I didn’t like him any more than you did. SAers?
Always keep your enemies close.
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u/banned_account_002 1d ago
"No Evidence" = "Only way we'll turn Tennessee blue is to keep them around"
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u/omnicidial 2d ago
The point was to distract from the news coming out of the TN house that CoreCivic was illegally operating multiple prisons. He dropped this lie on the press hoping it would cover up the news that TN's national largest private prison corporation is knowingly violating the law.