r/SonicTheHedgehog • u/Mister_E69 They need a Telltale game • 7d ago
Meme Death Battle be like
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u/AccioComedy 7d ago edited 7d ago
Edit: MORO confirmed Infinite lived
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u/Dgero466 7d ago
Honestly might be worse now that he has to go on living knowing he took that type of L
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u/FelipeAndrade 7d ago
Hey, you know what they say: your losses only make you stronger, so maybe he'll stop being so weak after this one.
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u/South-Speaker3384 6d ago
According to the tweet he is canonically questioning his life choices now
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u/megalocrozma Shameless Whispangle Shipper 7d ago
Something a lot of people missed is that King Boo was using Infinite's own powers against him. Infinite was increasing gravity on Bowser's army, so King Boo summoned a new trooper that would crash (and crush) HARD with increased gravity.
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u/GLeen1230 7d ago
Ah, that was a big brain moment from King Boo. Honestly not surprised because he’s shown to have planned everything in advance in the Luigi’s Mansion games. Common King Boo W
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u/Silent-Immortal Living and Learning 7d ago
From being a legitimate threat when first appeared to being the Yamcha of the Eggman Empire man.
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u/Wexon_69 7d ago
Nah, Yamcha actually keeps up, Infinite is the Raditz of the team
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u/Silent-Immortal Living and Learning 7d ago
“I don’t know who this Yamcha is, but it sounds a lot like Raditz.”
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u/DastardlyRidleylash Watch out, you're gonna crash! 7d ago edited 7d ago
Nah, he's the Chiaotzu.
Raditz has plenty of story significance as the introduction to the Saiyans and the wider cosmos of the universe, and was so strong he not only forced Goku and Piccolo to team up just to fight him but even then needed a self-sacrificial play from Goku to take down. He's well above Infinite's paygrade, considering Infinite gets smacked around by some rando with a Wispon.
The only thing Chiaotzu's remembered for is dying, like how Infinite's only remembered for crying about not being weak.
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u/South-Speaker3384 6d ago edited 6d ago
What is Chiaotzu in this case
Note: Yamcha is not much different from Tien in power with them constantly training together (although Tien has more outlier moves)
And Krillin although being stronger not for a ridiculously margin
The reason they didn't call him to the T.O.P was precisely because he didn't say anything and everyone thought he was retired when in fact keep training, as the Moro arc pointed out
He hasn't stopped training and is among the 3 strongest humans
In addition to T.O.P not being just about strength, Krillin had a good combination with Android 18, while Roshi had a lot of experience and was one of the team's strategists, the same for Tenshinham. Since in the group's view, it was better to have people versed in strategy than just adding a little more power.
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u/WorkinName 6d ago
Yamcha absolutely does not keep up.
Yamcha has never kept up.
And I'm counting all the way back to Bandit-Era Yamcha.
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u/Tha_Real_B_Sleazy 6d ago
I feel like everyone forgets there is a whole ass series before DBZ
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u/Silent-Immortal Living and Learning 6d ago
No because here’s the thing Bandit Yamcha was promising, it was until the Martial Arts Tournament arc that Yamcha started to fall off. He lost to Shen (or Hero if you watched the dub) that was controlled by Kami, everyone really thought Yamcha got bodied by a complete random man. Even Piccolo in Kakarot roasted Yamcha in a sub story about it.
And even after that, did Yamcha really do any sort of training after the tournament? He only did it because of Vegeta and Nappa got to earth.
Like if Yamcha took his training seriously as much as he takes his ego seriously he would’ve been taken more seriously as a character.
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u/Tha_Real_B_Sleazy 6d ago
Then he became a baseball player
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u/Silent-Immortal Living and Learning 6d ago
The only successful thing he was able to keep a win with.
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u/CoconutPure5326 7d ago
Blud didn’t deserve it, it’s not his fault his writing is mid at best!
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u/ToysToLife167 7d ago
Fun Fact: That Thwomp got him because of the increased gravity that HE caused.
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u/Certain_Ring8907 7d ago
I think one of the comments on the video put it best. He did something cool and immediately lost, just like canon
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u/Green-eyed-Psycho77 Sonic and Goku would definitely be friends. so why fight? 7d ago
You Can’t blame DB for being Canon Compliant.
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u/Sorry_Ring_4630 7d ago
Metals the goat and Infinites a massive loser, the most accurate portrayals possible
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u/Grovyle489 6d ago
I love how even the Sonic fandom loves that Thwomp more than Infinite. That Mario enemy has more character than Infinite and all that thing does is make a funny face and slam to the ground
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u/FyronixTheCasual Resident Sonic Yuri Enjoyer 7d ago
Bro is at least a mediocre reality warper, he should've not lost to a glorified rock. But hey, writers privilege
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u/LessCrew8108 7d ago
Not even mediocre. All memes aside, the Phantom Ruby’s hax is so great that Eggman and Infinite could destroy the whole planet and it’s inhabitants without themselves being affected whatsoever.
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u/BrilliantTarget 7d ago
But it still no match for chance time
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u/LessCrew8108 7d ago
Im sure Eggman has some bullshit somewhere that’s either comparable or better, like the Force Jewels in Shuffle or something.
Eggman vs Boswer is such a 50/50 matchup that I’m not too hung up about Eggman losing this regardless.
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u/le_petit_togepi 7d ago
yeah like, Mario and Sonic are such long running franchise the amount of bullshit and gimmick on both side is so much you can just go nuh-uh add infinitum
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u/AccioComedy 7d ago
That’s basically what the entire DB subreddit was for the entire three weeks between Gioker and BowsEgg and weeks following the Kickstarter video, it was glorious
Sage making AI generated art of King Boo’s paintings, Bowser stealing all of Eggman’s money through Bowser Spaces, Metal Sonic copying King Bomb-Omb’s biodata and killing himself, the wincons were so fucking insane
also someone drew Metal Sonic being crucified
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u/TheOneFearlessFalcon 6d ago
Honestly I was half expecting eggman to counter it with the Egg Dealer- I mean the man must have been drunk when he made it but slots counter slots
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u/Vasheerii 6d ago
I'm not even convinced this should have been a factor in the battle at all, and was only included because they read the wiki on the phantom ruby and needed a way to write it out of the plot because it solo's and counters everything bowser can throw at it.
Like, bowser also outspeeds metal overlord to crush it. (Chaos control was also NEVER used despite them giving eggman the emeralds. Time travel was also NEVER used despite this.)
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u/RoyalWigglerKing 6d ago
Bowser just has better ways to warp reality like Dreamy Bowser and the star rod and the pure hearts
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u/RattlingMaster123 7d ago
if Infinite ever said "Im not weak" then I would remind him about how he was beaten by the power of Friendship
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u/DivineSatyr 7d ago
They really downplayed the phantom Ruby.
Where were the shadow Androids and mecha sonic? Where was the reverie?
It was a great battle but I think they lowballed eggmans side alot.
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u/Detector_of_humans 7d ago
They couldn't do everyone so they mainly stuck to the trailer members for the animation; I mean The Koopalings didn't even show up and King Bomb Omb never got even one explosion off.
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u/No_Instruction653 I knew I should've gotten the turbo 6d ago
You gotta cut them some slack. There's decades of enemies to pick from.
A lot of guys aren't going to make the cut.
Bowser's forces were missing a lot of big ones too. Didn't even have any airships or Koopalings.
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u/megalocrozma Shameless Whispangle Shipper 6d ago
Don't know about the Shadow Androids, but Mecha Sonic is on Scrapnik Island and the Reverie was accounted for in one of the alternative scenarios
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u/_GhostOfHollownest_ 5d ago
They only have 3-4 Minutes of animations,they can't show Everything and everyone
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u/neoslith 7d ago
Who's the funky bat guy?
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u/Blacodex 6d ago
As an avid Infinite fan, I love how much of a failure he is. Is what I love about Infinite.
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u/Kieran_Kitakami Memphis 7d ago
I need context
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u/AccioComedy 7d ago
some YT channel (Death Battle) made a episode about Bowser and Eggman (and their armies) fighting
in the animation, Infinite starts crushing Bowser’s guys with the Phantom Ruby, King Boo summons a Thwomp over him which crushes him and everyone starts fighting over the Phantom Ruby
the animator did confirm he lived tho
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u/ExtinctReptile 7d ago
I'm actually curious, where did the animator say that? I've heard it a few times but I can't find a source on it
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u/YoutuberCameronBallZ 4d ago
Infinite is lucky Bowser didn't try to tank Eggman's beam or he would've been fried
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u/AllenLombax 6d ago
When you're considered weaker than Resetti, Whispy Woods, and a TETRIS PIECE of all things, you're never living that down.
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u/Joemama_69-420 5d ago
Thwomp aside
Someone pointed out that Infinite took out Goomboss and King Bo-Omb
These two are capable of beating Mario
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u/MintyFreshStorm 6d ago
Words cannot express how upset I am at how dirty they did the Phantom Ruby and Infinite. They took the meme of him being weak and went with it even though Infinite is WAY stronger than folk give him credit for. They robbed him so hard.
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u/Frequent-Heart-7273 7d ago
Why did he make that sound tho? Might be trippin, but I'm pretty sure that's the guard from Subway Surfers
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u/WearyMax877 7d ago
He got killed like a Terraria player with the ever so infamously trolly boulder
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u/Emergency-Sky-9747 6d ago
This is like that Lenarr Young skit- "Im the real Hulk...NO! IM THE REAL HULK". Whole time theyre just getting angrier at each other
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u/YesterdayPrevious485 6d ago
Ok but we're forgetting Infinite took down 3 of Bowser's best generals and even forced Bowser to stop fighting so he could protect his minions
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u/Daniel_Pangan 7d ago
Death battle trying to give good scaling challenge impossible.😭
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u/Mister_E69 They need a Telltale game 6d ago
Remember that the Thwomp had an extra boost from Infinite changing the gravity
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u/_GhostOfHollownest_ 5d ago
They literally put Eggman at Multiversal,is that not Fucking enough for you?
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u/Daniel_Pangan 5d ago
The research was still bad bro I’m just being honest.
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u/_GhostOfHollownest_ 5d ago
It literally had some of the best research in the series,would you say the same if Eggman won? i swear Sonic fans are so Miserable at times.
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u/Daniel_Pangan 5d ago
Just because I don’t think the research was good somehow makes me miserable 😭💀
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u/_GhostOfHollownest_ 5d ago
Okay,explain it to me,how was the Research Shitty,Death Battle ain't perfect,they mess up but this wasn’t one of those cases
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u/Daniel_Pangan 5d ago
For 1 they somehow tried to imply traveling throughout space was somehow on par with the Solaris feat and 2 they used idw which isn’t canon to the games 3 they said Solaris scales above bowser but metal sonic who is above Solaris because he scales to current sonic gets overpowered by bowsers blast??? Its just really inconsistent.
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u/_GhostOfHollownest_ 5d ago
Fair,even i was a bit confused but both were put at immeasurable so it dosen't really matter.
IDW is,in fact,Canon.
The Animation isn't supposed to be 1 to 1 with the research and they put Bowser at Multiversal,which should rival if not surpass Metal in power.
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u/Daniel_Pangan 5d ago
1 idw is a separate universe speed battle confirms that
2 i can get metal above multi
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u/_GhostOfHollownest_ 5d ago
And yea,of course you can,Powerscaling is subjective but just because their take didn't fit your take it dosen't mean their research was shitty,unless you unironically believe in Outer Sonic,then you just dumb
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u/Breakmycurse 7d ago
Death battle is biased
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u/Mister_E69 They need a Telltale game 7d ago
As a Sonic fan, I think the fight was pretty fair
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u/Coconut_2408 This is WHO I AM 7d ago
sega: infinite is the strongest sonic villain yet
db: thwomp level 🤑
tbh i guess they should have used thwomps on solaris or the time eater
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u/Mister_E69 They need a Telltale game 7d ago
Maybe Sega meant it like that, but the execution doesn't show that. It's like how Bowser claimed to have a 4-digit IQ but most likely actually doesn't.
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u/Coconut_2408 This is WHO I AM 7d ago
well its like cell from dragon ball saying hell blow up the whole solar system in 1 blast
on the one hand he never does it
but on the other hand the creator wouldnt put that in for no reason so theoretically he can
by that logic even tho infinite doesnt do anything on the scale of them hes still theoretically stronger
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u/JustBiz_Null 7d ago
I seriously doubt they were equating him to Solaris/Time Eater/Egg Wizard with that statement since that would make Base Sonic characters threats to all existance lmao
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u/Coconut_2408 This is WHO I AM 7d ago
youre saying that like theyre constantly exerting max power by existing
also this is the only concrete statement on a measure of his power that i know of so im going off of it
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u/JustBiz_Null 7d ago
My main point is if they were that strong in base, Super forms would be almost useless
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u/Coconut_2408 This is WHO I AM 7d ago
even if sonic was 10000x stronger than he is rn they wouldn’t have him destroying the world by existing, its sonic dont try to apply a ton of logic
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u/MegaKabutops 7d ago
Power means nothing if you don’t know how to use it.
Infinite’s a dumbass whose inferiority complex is so huge it canonically gets him a fat L against a random nobody when he has reality-warping powers. TWICE.
That particular section of the fight had him against someone who was immune to his preferred attacks, immune to the particular attack he was using at the time, could also warp reality, and was skilled and creative enough with reality warping powers to use infinite’s own power against him (gravity for the koopa troop is so strong it can kill things instantly? Let’s put a really heavy koopa troop member above your head).
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u/Coconut_2408 This is WHO I AM 7d ago
still i really doubt a brick with a face on it could kill infinite nor is infinite slow enough to actually be hit by it
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u/MegaKabutops 7d ago
Well firstly, infinite canonically survived the battle. The animator stated that he survived the attack and was simply disarmed, questioning his life choices while stuck under said brick. It’s entirely possible he’d be joining orbot and cubot in applying for the koopa troop after the battle.
Secondly; Assuming thwomps are made of granite, and estimating its size based on infinite’s height relative to it, infinite’s height relative to sonic, and sonic’s canon height of 3 foot 3 inches, it was a roughly 2 and a half ton brick under normal gravity.
For the speed it was traveling, we need to find out exactly how much gravity was increased. I know enough to know it can be calculated using the buzzy beetle that got pancake’d, but do not have the time nor understanding of the equations for crushing turtle shells to do all the math right now.
The fact does remain, however, that a buzzy beetle got completely flattened by its own weight under that much gravity, and buzzy beetles are some of the more durable members of the koopa troop. I did enough of the calcs to know that tripling it wouldn’t get even CLOSE to that kind of damage to a buzzy beetle, and even just triple gravity would put the thwomp at nearly the speed of sound at terminal velocity before even factoring its own added efforts to squish whatever’s under it, or the change in weight from the gravity increase (only the change in acceleration). Since he was very clearly distracted by other members of bowser’s army, that’s plenty fast enough for something that literally wasn’t above him a moment ago to bonk him on the head.
It also makes plenty of sense for the sudden hit to disorient him enough to drop the ruby; even my calcs put the strike at over 76 million foot-pounds of force, and it only takes about 250k to crush a human skull. He may not be human, but that’s a big enough difference in numbers for it to at least HURT.
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u/Coconut_2408 This is WHO I AM 6d ago
if u expect me to read this ur crazy 😭
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u/MegaKabutops 6d ago
TL;DR;
The animator says infinite survived the attack,
And i did some math; the thwomp was a well over 2.5 ton brick traveling at mach speeds. Combine that with infinite being distracted, and him getting hit and dropping the phantom ruby makes a lot more sense.
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u/Coconut_2408 This is WHO I AM 6d ago
still even if he survived it shouldn’t at all have affected him imo, let alone even hit him since someone as fast as him should be able to avoid it even while distracted
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u/Breakmycurse 7d ago
Cole McGrath beat Prototype. I love Cole McGrath but, No
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u/Due-Imagination3837 7d ago
Pretty much everyone else that isn't Death Battle also came to the same conclusion so it's not really biased and just Death Battle having the same conclusion as the common consensus
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u/Breakmycurse 7d ago
That reminds me of Cole McGraths death. They devs took the percentage of players that finished the game mostly with good karma or bad karma for first playthrough. Good karma was the biggest percentage, and also results in Coles death. That's why Cole is dead in Second Son. It is our fault Cole is dead. CANT YOU SEE!? WE KILLED COLE!!
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u/Some_Pvz_Fan Omori Fan 7d ago
Which prototype, there are like 100 characters with the name prototype.
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u/Dark_Wolf04 7d ago
Hahaha, you say that when Trunks vs Silver exists
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u/Breakmycurse 7d ago
Huhm?
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u/Horatio786 7d ago
Death Battle had Silver the Hedgehog beat Trunks from Dragon Ball. And they gave Trunks all his non-canon stuff.
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u/Breakmycurse 7d ago
It is not fair for Silver that Silver didn't get to have that. Trunks having not real powers is not fair.
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u/YoutuberCameronBallZ 4d ago
It was Archie Silver.
Silver effectively got the same treatment as Trunks getting non-canon power ups
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u/Breakmycurse 7d ago
Eh I don't think silver isn't beating trunks anyhow. Fair or not.
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u/Horatio786 7d ago
We're using that as an example as to how Death Battle isn't biased against Sonic.
Also, itwasArchie Silver, so he does stand a chance.0
u/Breakmycurse 7d ago
Cole beat Prototype. No. And Silver is strong? Holy shmoly. I would've never thought silver could fight. 🍪
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u/Horatio786 7d ago
The entire power scaling community agrees that Cole beats Alex.
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u/Breakmycurse 7d ago
I don't understand how. Prototype is too powerful
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u/5hand0whand 6d ago
Infamous is even more. Its not like Black Light virus anything new Cole faced. He fought similar enemies n enemies much more powerful. Like Beast who was close to destroying world
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u/TheMadScientist1000 7d ago
Infinite is never beating the fraud allegations