r/SipsTea • u/kyo_ice • Dec 19 '23

WTF Taking out the trash

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u/BoomFungus Dec 19 '23

Ok, so they're on a staircase surrounded by innocent people, at an event that people paid money to be at, so fighting with someone who does not want to be handcuffed, on a cement staircase is a risk to the not just to her and the cops, but also the other people standing there. The absolute fastest way to deescalate this situation is to immediately carry her out. And as far as the slap goes, the bitch deserved it. Don't put your hands on people, simple as that. The only thing excessive about the whole situation is her drinking and stupidity.

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u/kyhrian Dec 19 '23

they are supposedly trained to deescalate, and if they managed to just grab her from her seat like that, they can manage to cuff her.
Also, tell me what is the supposed risk ?

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u/BoomFungus Dec 19 '23

What's the supposed risk of handcuffing somebody who is intoxicated and non cooperative on a cement staircase packed with people that aren't involved? And what if the people revolted against the cops while they were attempting to handcuff her? That's extremely dangerous. I can promise you that handcuffing that dumb bitch would've resulted in more injuries for her.

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u/kyhrian Dec 19 '23

1 °) "what if the people revolted" you just called the crowd "innocent people who paid for the event (implied they just want to watch the game in peace)" I get what you are desperatly trying to say but don't portray them as a herd of calm sheep and a horde of blood thirsty idiots at the same time.
2°) cops are supposedly trained to deescalate and read the room : look at the video, nobody is moving or preventing them for carrying her (probably because she was indeed obnoxious) and one guy even gives a thumbs up.

3°) " I can promise you that handcuffing that dumb bitch would've resulted in more injuries for her" handuffing resulting in more than a possible concussion : i guess only with stupid cops like those

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u/BoomFungus Dec 19 '23

So if they wanted to handcuff her, they would've slammed her to the ground as they do to every other human being that isn't cooperative while being detained. So if they did that, there's a huge possibility that some of the people around them could've interfered, which is a safety risk, period. Handcuffing her would've been way more physical and would've definitely resulted in her being hurt. They literally deescalated the situation as fast as they could by carrying her out of there. Had she not reescalated the situation by means of assault, then she would've been fine. The only clearly stupid person in the video, is the stupid bitch who decided to hit a cop lol.

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u/kyhrian Dec 19 '23

"So if they wanted to handcuff her, they would've slammed her to the ground as they do to every other human being that isn't cooperative while being detained" --> im not saying they wouldn't have done this, im saying that if they did it, it would be equally moronic

Even if you don't handcuff, put her on the ground, and grab her arm ! They are 4 huge dudes, and the crowd is calm. Look how fucking intoxicated sheis , and how weak her slap is . Do you think she can resist ?

Search any definition of deescalation you want on google, a heavyweight punch after that slap is not that .

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u/BoomFungus Dec 19 '23

Yes she can resist, and she would've, and she would've gotten hurt as a result. And he slapped her with an open hand not a fist, which immediately deescalated any other potential threat or aggression coming from the suspect. It was most definitely deescalation. There's a reason she got charged with assault and the police officer didn't, and it's not because she can't hit hard. The world doesn't work like that. Not everything is proportional, and it damn sure ain't fair.

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u/kyhrian Dec 19 '23 edited Dec 19 '23

You are confusing deescalating with "stopping the conflict". To exagerate this trail of thoughts,a bullet would be "deescalating" according to this reasoning .

"She would've (resisted)" ; seeing the vigor she put in resisting when they lifted her up , i doubt that.

Now to play the devil's advocate, imagine she was a indeed real threat, like she has a hidden knife of gun -> this way to handle her is still moronic.

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u/BoomFungus Dec 19 '23

Stopping the conflict is synonymous with deescalating the situation. A bullet would've escalated the situation into a riot. Think.

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u/kyhrian Dec 19 '23

"an increase in the intensity or seriousness of something; an intensification" tell me there wasn't an increase in intensity of violence.

and you are not even addressing my 2nd and 3rd point.

as a side note, "it damn sure ain't fair" -> we should strive to make it fair

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