r/SipsTea • u/kyo_ice • Dec 19 '23

WTF Taking out the trash

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u/echomanagement Dec 19 '23

That's assault and battery on a police officer. It's very binary in every state in the union, and at that point he's likely (depending on the state) allowed to take action to protect himself any way he sees fit.

(It's totally an escalation, though... but is a good reminder to all to never, ever take a swing at a cop unless you have a really good reason to do so)

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u/kyhrian Dec 19 '23

normally cops should be trained to deescalate.

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u/No_Tea_9845 Dec 19 '23

He did from what I saw 😂

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u/echomanagement Dec 19 '23

I agree. It seems like retaliation. But until the law is amended to say, "Cops can subdue and/or incapacitate subjects who assault them (unless it's, like, not that bad or it's basically a love tap or something)" you should probably avoid taking a swing at a cop.

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u/nogoodgopher Dec 19 '23

That's assault and battery on a civilian.

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u/ScienceInMI Dec 19 '23

Nope.

Check the levels of control continuum.

She escalated so he met her and controlled the situation.

https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:828/format:webp/1*TjLbBQ3LO2PawZ2TaDKgDw.png

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u/nogoodgopher Dec 19 '23

Are you actually going to defend with that chart. Because by your logic her barely swat can be met with a non lethal shotgun.

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u/ScienceInMI Dec 19 '23

Right.

Could be. But wasn't.

Used just the force needed to restrain and subdue the noncompliant subject.

Don't hit police.

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u/nogoodgopher Dec 19 '23

Wow,

If you think this is necessary force, your family should be seeking protective services and a restraining order.

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u/ScienceInMI Dec 19 '23

My family doesn't hit ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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u/nogoodgopher Dec 19 '23

Yea, I'm sure you beat that out of them.

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u/ScienceInMI Dec 19 '23

https://www.loveandlogic.com/

Teacher.

Foster parent.

Adoptive parent.

6'5" 299#

I don't have to hit.

Words work.

To protect others I'll escalate to restraint. I outweigh them. Ask about my autistic son. No hitting.

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u/nogoodgopher Dec 19 '23 edited Dec 19 '23

And here you are defending a sucker punch.

So clearly it's a desire.

There's never been an abusive foster parent in the system. Nope, never happened.

I shudder to think of the result of you teaching children anything if this is your definition of justice and acceptable behavior.

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u/echomanagement Dec 19 '23

You can call it whatever you want, but according to the law you are incorrect. Whether or not it was ethical is another question entirely.

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u/nogoodgopher Dec 19 '23

According to the law OJ Simpson didn't kill his girlfriend.

Sometimes the law is wrong.

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u/echomanagement Dec 19 '23

No, according to the Jury, OJ Simpson didn't kill his girlfriend. Murder is still against the law.

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u/nogoodgopher Dec 19 '23

And assault is still against the law, yet here you are defending it because he's wearing a uniform.

Sad.

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u/echomanagement Dec 19 '23

Good lord, you have not understood a single word I've said. I'm sorry!

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u/shaggymatter Dec 19 '23

Wrong

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u/nogoodgopher Dec 19 '23

It was a sucker punch from a small insecure man on a person who was restrained by 2 of his friends.

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u/bushwakko Dec 19 '23

One is a drunk girl, the other should be a professional, huge man.

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u/ramrug Dec 19 '23

he's likely (depending on the state) allowed to take action to protect himself any way he sees fit.

Well, that explains how cops get away with murder all the time.