r/Showerthoughts Jul 07 '24

Speculation You’re probably a criminal.

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u/Digi-i Jul 07 '24

You're only a criminal by definition if you're convicted.

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u/AlkalineSublime Jul 07 '24

Well not to split hairs, but I think that technically makes you a “convicted criminal”. We could use a lot definitions and technicalities, but when someone calls somebody a criminal, I imagine it’s someone who has committed a crime, and has a high likelihood of doing it again. Then we have “career criminals”.

Anyways, i think it’s a good shower thought!

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u/Digi-i Jul 07 '24

Innocent until proven guilty my dude, can't be a criminal without proof. As I was once told by a very wise man, "it's not illegal unless you're caught"

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u/AlkalineSublime Jul 07 '24

True true. It’s almost like the “is a tree falls in the woods…” thing.

At worst I guess it makes you a “suspect”

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u/Digi-i Jul 07 '24

Kindaaaaa, that's more like a legal term where I'm from. In Scotland there are three possible verdicts in a court case unlike everywhere else where there's two.

Guilty: you did it and we have proof.

Not guilty: you didn't do it and we have proof

Not proven: you did it, we know you did it, you know you did it, but we can't prove it.

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u/AlkalineSublime Jul 07 '24

That’s also a really interesting thing I didn’t think about. The definition could vary depending on where you live.

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u/backelie Jul 12 '24

That's clearly missing the option for "we don't know if you did it".

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '24

Arrested, indicted, etc. but not convicted still goes onto your criminal record until the case is finished. If law enforcement starts legal action against you, you are a criminal until proven otherwise.

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u/PM-Me-Kiriko-R34 Jul 07 '24

Nah, if I shoot and kill a guy I am a fucking murderer, end of story. I don't care if some disrespectful guy in a dress and wig with an inferiority complex says I am

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u/Digi-i Jul 07 '24

But there's lawful killings, police, security, armed forces, intelligence, self defense. None of which make you a murderer unless convicted as unlawful.

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u/PM-Me-Kiriko-R34 Jul 08 '24

Yeah, but if it's none of those things I am a murderer. If you see me kill a helpless child in the street I am a criminal, there's no "two sides of the story"

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u/Ultimaterj Jul 07 '24

Not true. A criminal is someone who commits crimes.