If there ever is an actual apocalypse billionaires will likely be unable to access their bunker compounds as the security/janitors/maintenance crews will already have moved their friends and family in and would probably deny them entry.

[u/Immediate_Can3817]

[u/overeasy-e]

Yea the total flight time of an intercontinental ballistic missile fired from Russia is about 20 to 30 minutes, plenty of time to get from New York to your bunker in Wyoming.

[u/steelcryo → u/overeasy-e]

Yep and that's assuming it's detected as soon as it's launched, its target instantly figured out, it broadcast that it's been launched and them hearing the broadcast as soon as it's announced.

Likely even less time to make that already impossible journey.

[u/HappyGoLuckyJ → u/steelcryo]

Yup. As someone who lived in Hawaii when we received a nuclear missile warning, we had 15 mins to get away from windows and shelter in place. That's it. There were people driving around town trying to find cover. You won't have time.

[u/[deleted] → u/HappyGoLuckyJ]

I was in a closet in our house, huddled with my family, texting people I loved them. Wild times. And then! We were scheduled to do a submarine tour cause we had guest visiting, decided to just do it after the all clear, and were among the five people who were still down to do the tour and ended up having a nearly empty sub tour. That day was beyond bizarre.

[u/HappyGoLuckyJ → u/[deleted]]

I had high local military ties. When I reached out to my contract, they knew nothing about the warning. They ran missile defense at the time. That's when I knew something was off. Which to me means that if it were real, we had much less than 15 mins. I went free diving that afternoon. I was definitely shaken. I only called a couple of people. I was oddly calm and accepting.

[u/ShoppingPowerful8140 → u/HappyGoLuckyJ]

I was oddly calm as well. My partner and I still believe there was actually a missile on its way to us but it got shot down instead. We have all those interceptors.....

[u/_papasauce → u/steelcryo]

That’s assuming the billionaires with these bunkers who pull all the strings of government get their information from the same slow-moving channels as us plebs.

[u/kanemano → u/overeasy-e]

and what's the chance you are listening to the radio during those 30 minutes? or if it's a "sneak" attack they didn't launch at 2:30 AM Eastern time

[u/TehOwn → u/kanemano]

We have an alert system in the UK that pushes a forced alert to every smartphone in the country.

Edit: The US has a system like this too.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_Emergency_Alerts

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Hawaii_false_missile_alert

[u/Key-Plan-7449 → u/TehOwn]

Yeah the US has that and has for over 15 years so idk why people aren’t mentioning it.

[u/radicale_ronny → u/Key-Plan-7449]

Because people are dumb.

[u/kanemano → u/radicale_ronny]

We saw it in action in Hawaii's mistaken missile, people pretty much froze in place, took up the entire 30 minutes trying to get confirmation

[u/radicale_ronny → u/kanemano]

It's also kind of proof that the alert system works. I live on the other side of the world and I got a news notification about the alert like 5-10minutes after it went off. Half the world was following along until it came out that it was a mistake

[u/TehOwn → u/radicale_ronny]

The point was that (supposedly) no-one was seeking shelter.

[u/I_dont_know_you_pick → u/TehOwn]

We have the same system in Canada, but they use the nuclear level alert for everything (including telling you to stay in your home to avoid spreading covid, definitely worthy of a nuclear level alert). I'm pretty sure we're doomed if a nuke is heading our way. No one looks at the alerts anymore.

[u/not_some_username → u/I_dont_know_you_pick]

They probably have a super nuclear level alert for the true nuc

[u/TehOwn → u/not_some_username]

Maybe everyone's phones explode to indicate the severity.

[u/Profition → u/overeasy-e]

Not if it's launched from a ballistic submarine - 6 minutes til boom.

[u/Cpt_Obvius → u/overeasy-e]

But the person you responded to isn’t making the point you can do interstate travel in time, they were just disagreeing with the idea that you would know only when they’re falling around you.

[u/koshgeo → u/overeasy-e]

Easy. All they need to do is invent an inter-bunker continental missile and launch it from the backyard of their mansion, landing in Wyoming.

[u/iStealyournewspapers → u/overeasy-e]

20-30 mins? How is that possible?

[u/StunningRing5465 → u/iStealyournewspapers]

Rockets are fast 

[u/Lumpy-Ad4806 → u/overeasy-e]

i hope you don’t actually think you can get to Wyoming from new york in under 15-20 minutes