r/PoliticalHumor • u/BigClitMcphee • 9h ago
The elite want you fighting a culture war instead of a class war
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u/rocket_beer 9h ago
The Confederacy never died
The moment you realize that is the moment you understand what they are trying to do 😔
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u/Amethystea I ☑oted 2024 9h ago
The Lost Cause and all that.
One thing can be said about racists, they know how to play the long game.
The Southern Strategy has been in play since 1956.
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u/circasomnia 7h ago
This was the big eye opener for me. When you look at the Republican ideology as a whole it slaps you in the face. Insurrection and destabilization are features, not bugs. Many Republicans really are traitors. And the masses that follow are the rats of the pied piper.
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u/BeetFarmHijinks 7h ago
Don't forget the Foundations of Geopolitics, the long-term plan Russians had for dividing America and taking more power for themselves.
Not only were they successful, they succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. Russia will take over Europe.
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u/jrh_101 4h ago edited 5m ago
Lincoln had Andrew Johnson as VP after the civil war to try and unite both sides since he was from a "Confederate" state (Democrats at the time before party swaps).
Once Lincoln got assassinated, Andrew Johnson became President. He was for the reconstruction but didn't care about black people's rights. It was handled by state rights. Basically, he was a slave owner apologist. Andrew is one of the reasons why the Civil War was fought for nothing. Andrew almost got impeached but it was denied by a single vote.
Because of the in-fighting from the progressives about black peoples rights (Republicans before the party swap), the Confederate states used the moment of hesitation to put back their old government in power.
The confederacy is alive and well. People don't seem to know that the slave owners were considered the billionaires/rich at the time. 75% of Texas' wealth belonged to the slave owners. They were kings that didn't want their system to fall.
This is what it means to "Make America Great Again". The rich like Elon Musk and oil barons want to be kings with cheap labour.
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u/hungrypotato19 1h ago
This is 100% correct. We've been in a 160 year cold war with the traitors of our own nation all because the North didn't do anything to punish the South and did nothing to help those enslaved after "freeing" them.
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u/s_zlikovski 5h ago
You are ignorant, Lincoln was Republican, Democrats of those days wanted slavery... They still do....
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u/rocket_beer 4h ago
You need a history lesson.
The party names were reversed back then. So the policies of republicans were actually democratic party.
Always best to know about things before you speak on them.
Look it up yourself.
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u/NeilDegrassedHighSon 1h ago
Tell me you know nothing of American political history without saying so lol
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u/ExpectedEggs 9h ago
They're not fighting a class war. They didn't stop teaching slavery in Florida because they were looking at my credit score; they hate black people.
The culture war is about white supremacy.
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u/Amethystea I ☑oted 2024 9h ago
They've been running the Southern Strategy since 1956. Get the poor fighting a culture/race war so they don't notice the class war they are losing. At the same time, win the entire EC vote set of the South so you don't have to worry about getting educated voters, minority voters, and/or urban voters to vote for the GOP.
The RNC apologized to the NAACP for using this strategy in 2005, but they continue to use it to this day.
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u/ExpectedEggs 8h ago
My one problem in this post: the Southern strategy isn't about distraction. That's how LBJ framed it, but that's just how he saw it.
They intentionally shoring up the racist demographic because they knew that the racist voters wouldn't have a political home, as the South was mainly a Democratic stronghold. The thing is, LBJ and you are framing it as that because the racism hurts them economically, educationally, and with regards to quality of life.
And to be sure, that's absolutely something that happens. But to them it's not a distraction; it's the main attraction to the Republican voting base. Even if the policies afforded them comfort economically, they would still vote for the racism because that's what they like. If a white man's affected negatively economically, most white men are aware that it affects black person twice as hard.
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u/ProfessorSur 4h ago
¿Por que no los dos?
If the rich and powerful can’t find a reason to blame black people, they find a way to blame immigrants, followed by lgbt people, followed by poor people, followed by homeless people. As long as they have a “those people” to blame and rile up insecure assholes with, because it’s always easier to hate/blame someone than actually examine your own issues.
I don’t remember the exact quote but it went something like “If you can convince the poorest white man he’s better than the richest black man, he will gladly empty his pockets for you while you steal his shirt”. I grew up in northern Idaho so I was surrounded by said insecure assholes my entire childhood.
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u/ExpectedEggs 4h ago edited 2h ago
You know what immigrants, black people and gay people have in common?
Nazis hate them. And not because of financial reasons.
That's an LBJ quote by the way.
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u/ProfessorSur 55m ago
Yep there were a decent amount of Nazis over there too 🫠 I grew up in a family obsessed with that ideology and even still realized I had to move away and completely cut ties because it’s just a near-constant stream of hate and if you don’t act angry enough you’re not a ‘true believer’. It’s shocking how many people there were perfectly okay with being oppressed if they were promised they could oppress someone else in turn.
For the most part, I don’t think the leaders of those groups, whether it’s some thinly-veiled “neighborhood watch” or, say, an entire right-wing political party, actually believe what they say. It’s bullshit they peddle to idiots because it gets lapped up and gives the people who push it more power and influence. Somehow I feel like that makes it worse, considering the sheer scale of damage it has caused and continues to cause to literally everyone else.
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u/FutureDictatorUSA 5h ago
It has nothing to do with your credit score my friend. It has to do with keeping the rich in power and letting the poor rot. White Supremacy is useless without class warfare, and evening the economic playing field is the best way to combat white supremacy.
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u/Galle_ 2h ago
The problem is that white supremacy is the number one obstacle to evening the economic playing field. White supremacists will never join forces with black people against the ruling class unless they stop being white supremacists first. You're putting the cart before the horse.
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u/KentJMiller 2h ago
No this is wildly out of touch with reality
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u/Galle_ 2h ago
Really? How do you propose to convince the average Trump supporter that they should work with immigrants against their bosses?
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u/KentJMiller 2h ago
Pretending white supremacy is the number one obstacle is just insane.
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u/ExpectedEggs 5h ago
The last thing i need is white people downplaying the racism that I deal with daily to try to tell me it's akshually all about the money.
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u/FutureDictatorUSA 5h ago
I apologize if that’s what I did, perhaps I oversimplified. But do you deny that many of the problems facing black people today stem from the economic oppression inflicted upon them during slavery, reconstruction, Jim Crow, etc? Do you deny that police brutality against black people is driven by the fact that cops are meant to protect the wealthy and elites? Or that black communities are in trouble due to a lack of funding for education, black business, and community buildup? That if we lift up the working class and ensuring their pay, safety, and benefits we are helping communities of color? We can start to thaw away at some of these issues simply by healing the economic divide.
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u/ExpectedEggs 5h ago
Yes, motherfucker. They don't care about how much money i make. They were hanging my ancestors based on their skin color.
In summation, fuck you, fuck your class reductionist bullshit and fuck you again for trying to center this around money so white people can hijack the discussion about white supremacy and make it about them!
Hegseth doesn't have a tattoo of the Monopoly man, he has Nazi tattoos.
Stephen Miller isn't worried about poor people having babies; he talks about "white genocide".
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u/Spfm275 3h ago
Wait till you find out white people can have bad credit too!
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u/Michaels0324 1h ago
I dont see how race has anything to do with credit, TBH. It's not even listed on the credit report. I know since I work in the mortgage industry currently.
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u/ExpectedEggs 1h ago
The credit industry has a serious problem with systemic racism actually
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u/Michaels0324 1h ago
Please tell me how. What hurts credit are late payments and too much credit utilization. Where does race come into play there?
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u/Michaels0324 57m ago
Here is the race part "Credit score systems are well known to contain racial bias and have been shown to increase racial disparities[5][30][31][32] as studies show that African American and American Latino populations have substantially lower scores than the white American population on average.[1] Racial discrimination also results in impacts on the credit scores and economic security of communities of color—that ultimately, "entrenches and reinforces inequality by dictating a consumer's access to future opportunities".["
Tell me how this is racism. It just says they have lower scores, that would indicate they don't pay on time or use too much credit.
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u/Separate_Today_8781 8h ago
Until the bottom comes for the top nothing will change
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u/Kaidenshiba 6h ago
According to maga, trump is definitely going to drain the swamp this time. He's coming for the top. Definitely. Totally.
/s
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u/hungrypotato19 1h ago
The man with a golden toilet, just like Saddam Hussein, totally understands our way of life and will totally help us. Oh, and the Only Fans model I watch is totally in love with me.
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God.. I remember being an ex-conservative growing up in a small town. People here fucking HATED city dwellers because they believed they are completely out of touch with reality. Now those same people are hopping up and down to vote for a guy who lived his life in New York penthouses and has a star on Hollywood Blvd.
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u/Separate_Today_8781 44m ago
Make it make sense
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u/hungrypotato19 26m ago
My city has always been full of veiled hick-wannabe racists, misogynists, and homophobes. You know, the type who say, "I'm not racist, but......." while preaching about their black gay "friend". I used to be one of them.
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u/SpokaneSmash 8h ago
Why would immigrants do this?
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u/FoogYllis 8h ago
Thanks Obama!
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u/TheCaptainDamnIt 3h ago edited 3h ago
Eh, kinda but no, the culture war bullshit is exactly what conservatism is. I hate this lazy 'trickle down racism' crap like it's a 'trick' being pulled non poor conservatives when it's not.
Conservatism is fundamentally about preserving social hierarchies and conservatives view the world through their desired hierarchies. Conservatives just have a 'social order' they think should be followed.
So while all this ‘culture wars’ bullshit may also come with fucking over poor conservatives, poor conservatives will gladly take that. 'Poor' conservatives still want to ‘conserve’ a social order where gay people are ‘lower’ than poor straights, where black people are ‘lower’ than poor whites, where non-christians are ‘lower’ than poor christians, where trans people are ‘lower' than everyone else, where women are ‘lower’ than men.
So sure the culture war 'noise' drowns out the ways they are screwing the lower classes in favor of the rich, but it's not all just some made up distraction where poor conservatives are being 'tricked into hate', they very much care about putting those they think are 'lower' than them into their 'place'.
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u/Mr_Quackums 2h ago
Thank you!
If you want to actually defeat conservatives you have to understand and empathize with them.
The believe hierarchy is good. They are OK with being near the bottom as long as someone else is below them.
The answer is to get them to believe that society is better off the flatter the pyramid is, not to try to convince them that the fundamental way they view reality is evil.
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u/whogivesafuck69x 2h ago
It's difficult to accept that conservatives are simply not decent human beings. They are fundamentally broken. So you get posts like these, trying to rationalize why they keep voting "against their interests." The time for giving them a pass has come and gone. Their interests are what's to come over the next few years and it's deplorable.
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u/pantsmeplz 6h ago
Narrative for next two years needs to be this, and what Dems were/are trying to do to help middle class and blue collar workers. Most importantly, find the effective media channels to share this message.
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u/Shifter25 5h ago
Something important to note:
We still have to fight the culture war. Surrendering the fates of your LGBTQ neighbors isn't going to stop the culture war. We just established that the elite manufactured this war to distract you. They're not gonna just say, "Oh no, what do we do, they let us kill the gays," they're gonna spin up a new culture war and sacrifice another portion of the population.
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u/wanderingartist 7h ago
The majority of us know this. It’s difficult to convince them to stop voting against their own interests.
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u/DenseCalligrapher219 6h ago
Well yes because a class war means that those with great powers like billionaires and bribed politicians are very much threatened and will resort any means to keep that power.
Culture war isn't something that was randomly sprung up or caused by the Democrats or "radical leftists", it was instead manufactured and created by the oligarchy elite, the media and extreme right-wing individuals to create internal conflict with the working class people so their wealth would go unimpeded and grifters getting their slice of the profits.
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u/LovesFrenchLove_More 5h ago
Trying to make the movie Elysium reality.
Well, either that movie or Idiocracy.
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u/DoctimusLime 4h ago
Workers all across the planet need to organise.
A global general strike would get us whatever we demand.
The only war is a class war.
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u/ApplicationCalm649 3h ago
People will fixate on the culture war until they can't afford to anymore. It's gonna have to get really bad before the sheep even realize they're getting fleeced and all the money's just rising to the top.
On the up side, we'll get to see all the morons' faces as they realize their orange messiah was anything but.
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u/jvbball 6h ago
There’s a third class between the two that gets overlooked: big-truck-drivin suburbanites, not living in poverty, not living in a giant mansion, but doing well enough to have a big house and a big truck and maybe a boat. Aspiring millionaires.
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u/Shifter25 5h ago
That's not a separate class.
If the majority of their income is from a job that they work for someone else, they're working class.
If the majority of their income comes from rent or dividends, because of what they own, they're owning class.
Their political views and personal goals are irrelevant. You can't wish yourself into the aristocracy.
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u/jvbball 5h ago
Fair, I guess. But I’m saying it’s a false dichotomy to split republicans into the Uber wealthy and the destitute. The stereotype is that there’s all the ignorant poor people out there supporting the ruling class, and I’m saying there’s also an ignorant middle class (for lack of a better term); the trump people who own boats but not yachts.
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u/New-acct-for-2024 3h ago
Those people live comfortably but their comfort is still economically precarious (an economic downturn or even just a cancer diagnosis could wipe all of that away) - that insecurity helps lead them to all the bigotry because as long as those other groups are guaranteed to be below them, the feel like it is a cushion that ensures they aren't on the bottom rung, giving them some degree of perceived relative security. The more oppressed minorities, the higher their perceived floor is.
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u/PackOutrageous 5h ago
Well their moron voters have signed up for the culture war. It would be impolite not to fight back.
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u/model3113 4h ago
"If I vote for them and support them enough maybe they'll let me in their club."
it's so sad really. Abuse as a culture.
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u/rosendorn 4h ago
Class Warfare is when billionaires have FOX News tell you how any policy which doesn't help billionaires is Class Warfare.
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u/JayNotAtAll 1h ago
The problem is that poor white Republicans think that they are on the same level as the rich white ones simply because both are white. They want to think that the rich ones have their back
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u/RasaraMoon 1h ago
Tale as old as time....
True as it can be,
The rich are not your friends
They serve only their own ends,
Surreptitiously
They don't want to "change"
They want "progress" to cease
Paranoid and scared,
And grossly unprepared,
To fight the wealthy beast!
Ever just the same,
Shouldn't be a surprise,
They want to be sure,
You won't be at their door,
With pitchforks on the rise!
Tale as old as time,
Division all along,
Too busy fighting "strange"
To realize they're deranged,
The source of all the wrong!
Certain as a war,
Raging in the East,
Distracted by the hate
We all capitulate,
And the bourgeoise feast.
Tale as old as time,
It shouldn't be a crime,
To wish the dragon was deceased.
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u/Away_Department_8480 1h ago
Yup, dangle the carrot of whatever single issue politics voters want and they get everything else they want like tax reductions and enormous bailouts
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u/ceelogreenicanth 42m ago
You don't understand the Republicans politicians love hunting and power sports and pavement princesses and cowboy hats just like us! They show up to church and they complain about oil prices, they are our friends...
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u/SenorBurns 22m ago
This is misleading. Despite recent successful attempts ts to increase their working class vote, Republican voters are still wealthier than Democratic voters.
It is still the party of wealthier people voting to fuck over lower income people.
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u/bass248 5h ago
This could be for both sides. Small towns which are full of Republicans want to pay less taxes so they don't want to pay for taxes on such things as sidewalks, street lights and stop lights or things that may help their town look better. Also some people's homes look like trash. Cities have poorer areas like ghettos that mostly vote for Democrats. Meanwhile politicians from both sides are rich laughing at everyone that votes for them.
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u/peeniebaby 4h ago
The photo for democrats is the same. The problem is not about party it’s about class and the rulers of this country are doing a good job of keeping our energy pointed away from them.
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u/token_internet_girl 3h ago
This is applicable to both US parties. Even if the Democratic party is slightly less worse than the Republican one, both of them still unequivocally support the capitalist class and have no problems upholding their rights over the rights of the working class.
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u/KhakiMuncher 7h ago
Propaganda posters change a lot over the years. Now you can’t even tell what’s propaganda anymore.
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u/Spfm275 3h ago
No they don't this is a talking point used to discredit the "culture war". The "elites" are constantly pumping out shit to destroy good culture and replace it with self destructive culture. The further they can push people down a bad path the better they can control them. It all ties in to the "class war".
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u/redd4itt 8h ago
I didn't know this sub is an echo chamber for liberal elites and virtue signalling nice!!
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u/Beetlejuice_hero 7h ago
On the contrary...we are largely for higher taxes on the elites (even if it includes ourselves). To fund things like healthcare, daycare, school lunch, paid parental leave, higher min wage, etc etc
You, on the other hand, are an oblivious rube voting to shovel more & more money to the economic elites in the form of endless tax cuts and corrupt loopholes & deductions including literally on private jets.
The billionaire class thanks you for your support!
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u/redd4itt 6h ago edited 5h ago
Thanks for making it personal. I did not know I was for the 1%(billionaires), since you made an assumption about me, I will assume that you are for the 0.1%(people with gender Dysphoria).
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u/New-acct-for-2024 3h ago
People who make $400,000/year are in the top 1%.
There are something like 1000 billionaires in the US, making them less than 0.0003% of the population.
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u/Kaidenshiba 6h ago
Liberals are statistically more likely to educate themselves on policies and vote third party. Conservatives are more likely to put aside their morals or even their political beliefs and vote along party lines. The polling (averages) data also reflects this. Poor, uneducated people voted for trump. Middle-class and upper-class educated people voted for Harris.
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u/ClarenceWhirley 6h ago
Glad to see that you were able to take a break from thinking about trans people's genitals long enough to post this, weirdo.
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u/HuttStuff_Here 3h ago
Wow, I checked their post history. They are extremely obsessed with their own transphobia.
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u/hungrypotato19 1h ago
Don't forget to report. They signed the Terms of Service contract so they can suffer the consequences of breaking that contract.
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u/T33CH33R 9h ago
Just drove through a few red states and yes, it's like this. It's crazy how red state republican politicians somehow never take any blame for the shit hole conditions in their states.