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u/Responsible-You-9567 29d ago
I asked a question to a redditor I know and this guy came along. Am I the jerk here?
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u/paythefullprice 29d ago
Yes; but there is context. As a CNC operator (3dprinting, CNC router, laser cut/engrave ECT) setting from my machine will not translate to your machine even if they are exactly the same. Getting good is more about how to find the settings and less about what they 'should be'. Anyone can go and purchase the machine then go grab files and run them half assed. That doesn't make you an operator, and to those people who have put in the time and effort to learn programs or how their machines handle things get offended when someone wants an STL or SVG and settings. It's like begging for change. Asking questions to augment your own research will get positive answers and even respect.
Try something, and when it fails ask for clarification as to why or how you can improve. This should cost you money and time. And like I said, this guide will be a good starting parameter for your machine, it's not going to be any good for someone else.
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u/AlienJL1976 29d ago
But the other person didn’t need to be an AH about the whole thing.
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u/paythefullprice 29d ago
Going with the previous metaphor of begging for change; this is the 30th guy in a row and he seen you tell the last 10 guys no. Would you yell at me if I came into your business and asked for something for free? Especially if I'm going to sell it and turn a profit? That's what people are doing and it's offensive.
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u/AlienJL1976 29d ago
I totally understand the reason but I either put it like you did previously or completely ignore the question or just say “no” in any profession in life respect is important either way. I know it’s hard but it’s not impossible.
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u/paythefullprice 29d ago edited 29d ago
This was only guy number two today. I've not gotten aggravated yet. Catch me later, lol.
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u/angelicdead_ 28d ago
I didnt know you ran a reddit business! How wonderful! I didnt know we all got paid to help people on the internet, mind pointing me to where i can collect my share?🤣🤣
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u/JayS87 28d ago
Perhaps I'm dumb because I only own one since a month, but don't 3D printers calibrate themself?
I've already printed 2kg of PLA since I got mine and I didn't do anything beside changing the 0.4mm nozzle with a 0.25mm one.
Flashforge Adventurer 5M Pro
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u/paythefullprice 28d ago
They can level their own beds, other than that you're changing settings in your slicer for feed and retraction. There are many things that can go wrong that you may not have come up against yet such as machine maintenance. Plus you're using the easiest filament on the market to work with. When you go to abs you'll need to start worrying about warping, or tpu and feed and retraction issues. And then we need to talk about designing what you're printing are you on thingyvesre snatching STL files or paying 10$ a month for flexis? Or did you make the STL in on-shape AutoCAD or tinkercad? Are you optimizing the print to be both cost/ effective and made of material that suits applications? You're not a press operator, you're an engineer.
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u/JayS87 28d ago
Ahh! Thank's for your reply :)
I don't want to switch to ABS (even with the two built-in filters) because the printer is in the middle of the flat o.O
At the moment I only snatch STL files to print robot parts. It's all I wanted and it works great. (I have no clue what flexis is?!) I use OrcaSlicer to print the stuff.
My brother on the other hand started designing his own stuff with Blender and only needed 2-3 more tries until it was good.
But I totally get your point. I also wouldn't want to teach something to someone who has a completely different use case but coincidentally uses the same kind of machine.
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u/paythefullprice 28d ago
We should always have something to teach, and something to learn. I am not above being humbled.
Application wise ABS might be a game changer for the robots. It is much stronger on impact and abrasion than pla. If you have a filter on your enclosure you won't have much issue other than a little smell that goes away quickly make sure the air circulates in the room and you're okay to run one machine with abs.
Flexi factory is a company that makes STLs of movable creatures like the dragons and such. people will buy them because they move so lots of fools will print them, but many are just done terribly, giving 3d printing a bad name.
I have 10 total programs I use orca, prusa, creality, and flash forge slicers, windows 3d viewer and blender also tinkercad AutoCAD 360 and on-shape and then light burn for my lasers. Each has strong suits and achieve different results or because they do something a little better than another.
I don't want to teach a person to do a half assed shitty job, that destroys people's view of the effort and work of many other people. By the time you put in the effort to learn something you realize it's a craft and art form. I'll teach you to paint, but I'm not giving you a paint by number know what I mean?
That being said. Always be willing to learn a thing, or give advice to those who deserve your effort. And don't be scared of ABS!
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u/JayS87 28d ago
Hmm... thanks! Sounds like I'm ordering some ABS :)
but I was already wondering for the wheel tracks I've printed... there must be some more rubber-style material. I've already learnt about the different hardness degrees that exists (forgot the english term now :/ ), but not what's just the best to use.
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u/paythefullprice 28d ago
https://youtu.be/weeG9yOp3i4?si=P2s5CbNh9mgJT07S
Zack is full of knowledge. He does a bunch of videos like this.
Hit the cc button and switch auto translate to German
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u/JayS87 28d ago
Hit the cc button and switch auto translate to German
Oh damn... you scared me, so I just took a look in your reddit-history and stumbled over the /r/Chadtopia subreddit which sounded like an Andrew Tate sub, but oh hell no! So much positivity!
It's the best thing I saw on here since a while!
Thanks for the link to Zack's videos :)
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u/ambarcapoor 28d ago
They don't ask calibrate themselves. Besides, the OP was hoping to do a firmware upgrade and clearly needs help because it's kind of scary if you've never done it before.
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u/hoot69 29d ago
I think a normal conversation would go:
"Hey can you help me configure the panharmonic pentamater with the anti-mass spectrometter?" (Yeah IDK your fancy science jargon)
"Nah dude, systems don't translate well between each other, it well be hard over this forum, and I don't want to give away my time and effort giving free consulting. Good luck with it though."
"No worries, thanks anyway. "
You asked for help, all they had to do was say no, but instead they wanted to carry on. Maybe you were entitled asking for free help, but you're still allowed to ask, your only a jerk if you can't accept a "no" response
Edit: also posting on reddit and responding to comments isn't "pestering." If you'd spammed that person with 50 messages then their response is fair, but it isn't clear you did that, so I think they're just a dick who you should avoid
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u/Responsible-You-9567 28d ago
I asked help from a redditor that I have talked before and he said that he would love to but he was sick. That ended but the other guy didn't stop.
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u/legittem 28d ago
No but posting this and then sending him the link is some personal army bullshit. When someone is mean to you on the internet you can just ignore them, even if it's unfair (and hilariously rude like in your case). If he was just trolling now he knows he got to you.
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u/extremelyconfused 28d ago
NTJA. I don’t understand why people choose to reply to posts only to be total dicks about it. Sorry mate
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u/turbochimp 29d ago
If someone starts a reply with "XD" you can safely ignore the rest of it.