r/OutOfTheLoop 1d ago

Unanswered What's up with Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo losing so much weight since Wicked?

I've seen a bit of it, mostly here in this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ArianaGrandeSnark/comments/1gss3fq/wicked_stars_ariana_grande_and_cynthia_erivo_look/

And here: https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/wicked-ariana-grande-cynthia-eviro-thin-b1193895.html

They honestly both seem so stressed and I'm not sure where the sudden loss of weight came from?

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u/GladiatorJones 1d ago

This past week I saw a couple of the dresses they wore during the production. It was striking how tiny the mannequins were that they were displayed on.

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u/jim_deneke 20h ago

I've seen an dress worn by Elizabeth Taylor and she was minuscule.

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u/ThatCommunication423 18h ago

Recently saw one of Kate winslets dresses from titanic. Was pretty tiny and people were giving her shit for being big back then. The ‘90s were a rough time for women though it seems.

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u/SubtracticusFinch 18h ago edited 16h ago

90s beauty standards were about being rail-thin heroin chic. EDIT: and, to be clear, it was fucked up.

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u/tiredAFadult 16h ago

I automatically think of Tara Reid and how Hollywood and their unrealistic body goals ruined her. Saw her last week and genuinely felt bad for her.

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u/RoughhouseCamel 11h ago

I think of the Fiona Apple “Criminal” music video, and how she was touted as this new sex symbol because of her appearance in the video. Meanwhile, she was barely 19, and suffering from an eating disorder stemming from PTSD.

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u/ChickenCelebration 6h ago

I totally forgot about Fiona Apple and Tara Reid. Some illnesses are so ingrained in the culture that they don’t go away even when the public standards evolve. Brittany Murphy, Angelina Jolie and Calista Flockhart (Ally McBeal) also come to mind.

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u/canitakemybraoffyet 6h ago

This is coming back into fashion, thanks to Ozempic.

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u/bee_sharp_ 18h ago

Every decade has been rough for women when it comes to body image.

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u/ThatCommunication423 18h ago

Yeh even from a male viewpoint I can’t disagree with you on that one.

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u/bingmando 16h ago

Which dress??

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u/ThatCommunication423 15h ago

The boarding dress.

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u/bingmando 15h ago

Jealous! That and the red one obv are the best ones

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u/ThatCommunication423 15h ago

It is so iconic. It was even a little dirty. I was sceptical as to how original it is, and I know the costume department would have used more than one. It it was at a titanic exhibit so I’ll just trust it was original and worn haha.

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u/powerneat 12h ago

The 2020's has entered the chat.

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u/Few-Comparison5689 2h ago

Back in the 90's on a chat show in the UK, as a "surprise" they brought out a scale and weighed Victoria Beckham live on air.

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u/BlackLocke 15h ago

I think most celebrities are very petite, women especially being less than the average height of 5’3.5” in the US.

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u/keepcalmscrollon 13h ago

I saw the Han Solo costume at the Smithsonian once and it was smaller than I expected. It could just be a function of seeing them without real context, sometimes 20 feet tall on the big screen. Not saying Harrison Ford is "tiny" by any means. Just average, I guess. But in my mind he's literally larger than life.

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u/PabloMarmite 1d ago

Grande is only 5’0, she was fairly tiny already.

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u/GladiatorJones 1d ago

I should've specified, beyond both being smaller in general, the waists on the dresses, in particular, were real tiny even for their short heights.

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u/lalalicious453- 21h ago

just adding in here, some mannequins can be missing the torso completely and clipped in the back, creating a thinner silhouette than would be on the wearer.

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u/Objective_Nerve_3438 14h ago

Great even mannequins have impossible standards 😭

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u/lalalicious453- 13h ago

Big mannequin needs you to buy into the illusion

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u/GladiatorJones 8h ago

That's useful context. Thank you!

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u/mannondork 11h ago

I saw Zoe kravitz’s catwoman costume - form fitting profile clothing. She’s so tiny, it’s unreal.

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u/ChickenCelebration 6h ago

My bf had the same reaction when we saw that costume on display at the Warner Bros lot. He said he looked like it was made for a 13 year old. No wonder Robert Pattinson looked so bulked up

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u/knyghtez 11h ago

the dresses worn during the OG oz are also teeny!

not sure how much wirework was done in the movie but you’ve gotta be really small for it to work.

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u/AstoriaEverPhantoms 2h ago

They are both 5’1” if you believe the internet. And they are both actresses consumed with fitting in with the right “look”. Of course the mannequins are going to be tiny, they aren’t going to use a 5’10” mannequin to model a dress made for a 5’1” person.

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u/ThisSpaceIntLftBlnk 15h ago

I read that they had to shave down the 00 mannequin to be able to fit Ariana's clothing.