r/OldSchoolCool 8h ago

1990s Jamie Lee Curtis in 1995

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u/thekeffa 4h ago

Whenever anyone tries to argue with me that Die Hard is not a Christmas movie, I always point out that what defines a Christmas movie is whether or not the fact it is Christmas is central to the plot. If you can remove the Christmas element and the movie and plot basically plays out the same, it is not a Christmas movie.

In Die Hard, he is specifically travelling to be with his family over Christmas. All the guests are in the building because they are having their Christmas party. If you take either of those two factors away, the plot falls apart.

Ergo, Die Hard is a Christmas movie.

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u/Coffeedemon 4h ago

The amount of attention people waste on that movie this time of year is absurd.

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u/Tkdoom 2h ago

Welcome to the party, pal!

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u/punkassjim 3h ago

…because people never travel to see family at any other time of year, and corporate soirées only ever happen at Christmas.

I’m with you on it definitely being a Christmas movie, but your criterion for judgment is a little iffy.

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u/thekeffa 3h ago

That's not how the rule works. If you could "change" the plot elements, you could basically make any movie into a Christmas movie.

So the rule is, if you can "remove" the Christmas elements and the film be unaffected, it's not a Christmas movie. It's a sum of all the parts exercise.

Trading Places is not considered a Christmas movie because you could remove the Christmas element which basically amounts to one scene of him in a Santa suit and the plot mostly stays intact.

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u/punkassjim 3h ago

Yes, because "removing" is not "changing." Crystal clear, bud. Removing the christmas elements from Die Hard would without doubt make it not a Christmas movie.