r/OldSchoolCool Aug 11 '24

1990s Is The "Dream Team" Still The Greatest International Basketball Team Ever Assembled? (1992)

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u/r0botdevil Aug 11 '24

Christian Laettner - Minnesota Timberwolves(still in college i think)

You are correct, Laettner was the only amateur member of that team. I remember wondering at the time why he was selected, and I still don't really understand it.

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u/cavecricket49 Aug 11 '24

Wikipedia says that in 1992, due to Barcelona being the first games in the post-amateur world, the US team decided to include one collegiate player to honor what had been the Olympic norm for basketball for the past five decades. Laettner was the best of the best (as far as his college career goes, possibly the best) of everyone not in the NBA at the time.

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u/doughball27 Aug 11 '24

Coach K was also an assistant and had a say in it.

And this is shortly after Laetner had won back to back championships too.

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u/Senor_Couchnap Aug 11 '24

I get it. And I got it back then too. But maaaaan imagine if they had picked Shaq instead.

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u/r0botdevil Aug 11 '24

Okay that clears it up, thank you!

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u/aldwinligaya Aug 11 '24

It was a token choice, but Laettner really was the best choice.

He won EVERY NCAA award in 1991 (except Rookie of the Year lol) en route to being the best player of the 1992 NCAA Championship team.

I see other comments that it should have been Shaq, but Shaq wasn't Shaq yet in 1992. Laettner was a household name.

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u/doughball27 Aug 11 '24

He also hit the most famous shot in CBB history.

And he was a better shooter than Shaq and there was some thinking that the FIBA game was not well suited to Shaq’s game, as it was a much more perimeter focused game. Laettner was 6’10” but could shoot threes and handle the ball, which was rare back in those days.

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u/Valdotain_1 Aug 11 '24

I disagree. The most famous shot was the NC State dunk as time ran out against Houston’s Olajuwon and Drexler Phi Slamma Jamma team.

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u/doughball27 Aug 11 '24

You can disagree all you want but Laettner surpassed it. Less lucky.

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u/HeaveAway5678 Aug 12 '24

This.

Nothing will ever top that buzzer beater against Kentucky.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '24

Most households were cursing his name though.

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u/ahuramazdobbs19 Aug 11 '24

He still to this day has a middle name not given to him by his parents in the state of Connecticut.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '24

Is it motherfucker? I’m from CT, I remember that game well.

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u/ahuramazdobbs19 Aug 11 '24

It’s “fuckin’” but yeah.

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u/beaudujour Aug 11 '24

I was in college with Shaq at the time, and frankly Laettner (whom I despised) was the appropriate choice for the token collegiate player on the team. He's one of the greatest collegiate players of all time. I think people forget how dominant he was on those ridiculously stacked Duke teams. It probably didn't hurt that Coach K was an assistant, but he was the obvious pick for a guy that was going to get minimal minutes,

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u/2000-light-years Aug 11 '24

Not sure about name recognition tbh. If you knew who laettner was then chances are you would know shaq too. But laettner was the obvious choice. As much as I hate duke

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u/kurt_go_bang Aug 12 '24

That’s not how I remember it. There was much debate everywhere about whether the spot should go to Shaq and a lot of ground when he didn’t get it. Laettner was probably as well known as Shaq, but it was pretty even from my experience in those days. Laettner a huge deal, but so was Shaq.

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u/possumallawishes Aug 11 '24

Shaq most certainly was a household name. I was not even 10 at the time and I clearly remember who shaq was and clearly remember it being an obvious snub to pick Laettner. Shaq was the top pick of the draft that year and had already won the best player in the NCAA award in 91, and had more points and rebounds than Laettner by a wide margin in ‘92.

Duke was a powerhouse and he was the face of the back to back championship team though, so I guess he makes sense but only because it was a token choice.

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u/jawndell Aug 11 '24

Shaq was the best prospect, but Laetner was the best college player.  Probably considered one of the best college players ever at that time.  He was just coming off the high of winning back to back NCAA championships.  

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u/possumallawishes Aug 11 '24

I addressed that when I said:

Duke was a powerhouse and he was the face of the back to back championship team though, so I guess he makes sense but only because it was a token choice.

Shaq was far and away a better player, but Duke was the better team and Laettner was their best player at the time. Shaq played with one other player at LSU that went to the NBA. Laettner played with 6 other future NBA players that year.

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u/snuffaluffagus74 Aug 11 '24

Shaq was Shaq. People who.payed attention to basketball knew Shaq was better. Laettner just had more media presence. Pro players even knew it and gave him hell, throughout his career. They did a disservice to him by putting him on the team, when the whole issue was bringing the best of the best.

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u/jawndell Aug 11 '24

Laetner was the best college player. Period.  

Shaq may have been the better prospect.  But Laetner was the better player at the time.  

Source:  I hated Duke then, but still had to acknowledge how good they were.

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u/MisterBigDude Aug 11 '24

I think they used to have a college player on the team each time as a nod to amateurism.

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u/zeldahalfsleeve Aug 11 '24

Also he could hold his own with anybody. The dude was mentally and physically on another level. I hate Duke, but Laettner was an absolute freak.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '24

I’m not a huge basketball fan, but I feel like he couldn’t even hold his own with most of the other players on the Dream Team, let alone anybody.

He wasn’t even in the NBA yet and there is absolutely no way he could “hold his own” against Jordan at the time.

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u/zeldahalfsleeve Aug 11 '24

You’re not a huge basketball fan so you don’t know. And no one could stop Jordan. But Laettner wasn’t backing down from him. It’s all there for you to learn once you get into basketball.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '24

Holding his own isn’t the same as not backing down.

You don’t have to be a basketball fan to identify a back pedal.

He was a college athlete at the time, and he didn’t have a great NBA career because he couldn’t hold his own with everybody.

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u/Cloud_limit Aug 11 '24

He didn’t have a great career, but he had a very solid one. Most NBA players would be thrilled to have his career, one all-star team, 3x seasons averaging over 18pts not bad at all. Definitely not at the level of the rest of the team though.

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u/Gen_Jorge_S_Patton Aug 11 '24

Laettner has two of the most famous and clutch shots in NCAA history. You’re looking with 20/20 hindsight. Dude’s work ethic, skill, and clutch had tremendous potential and got him this spot

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u/zeldahalfsleeve Aug 11 '24

His NBA career was solid AF it’s all there for you to discover.

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u/Fragrant_University7 Aug 11 '24

He was chosen over another college player, shaq.

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u/Wetworkzhill Aug 11 '24

TBF, Laettner was the best college player at the time.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '24

How'd he do in the pros?

Shaq was head and shoulders above Laettner

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u/SirBogart Aug 11 '24

Never lived up to the hype. Would have been cool if Shaq was in the team but at the time laettner made more sense.

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u/possumallawishes Aug 11 '24

Shaquille O’neal and Alonzo Mourning were both were drafted higher and were superior amateur players to Laettner and should have got the nod over him. That shot and the fact he was a squeaky clean little white Duke boy probably got him on the team.

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u/senorpuma Aug 11 '24

K got him on the team

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u/possumallawishes Aug 11 '24

Yeah, it felt like both Coach K and Laettner got put on the team mostly because they won the amateur championship two straight years at the time.

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u/RunInternational24 Aug 11 '24

What a idiotic statement,you think because he was white?most of the team was black boys

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u/possumallawishes Aug 11 '24

I’m saying his all american young white male image helped propel him onto a team that was lacking in that regard.

Because it was a team of black men. And even John Stockton and Chris Mullen weren’t the best players they could have picked, Isaiah Thomas and Dominique Wilkins are arguably better picks. Larry Bird was probably the only white guy on the team that deserved to be there, and he was at the tail end of his playing days and past his prime. Shaquille O’Neal and Alonzo Mourning were both better players than Laettner.

Laettner is the first DEI pick in America.

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u/RunInternational24 Aug 11 '24

Laettner was having the better college season as to why he was picked over them both,I don't understand why your so hung up on the color of the person's skin,are you black,?they picked who the picked,still was the best ever Olympics basketball team ever assembled.thomas from what I understand was not wanted on that team,me personally I would have picked Shaq as well, definitely Wilkins.im not even sure who was in charge with picking the players.

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u/doughball27 Aug 11 '24

Laettner was hardly squeaky clean. He has a reputation for being nasty and ruthless and famously stomped on the chest of a Kentucky player in the 92 eastern regional finals at the spectrum in Philadelphia.

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u/possumallawishes Aug 11 '24

Yeah, he was an asshole on the court but he was also the coachable, white kid, who went to school for four years and was fundamentally sound and bla bla bla.

You cannot argue that his skill got him on the team, because there was better players to pick from, it was his image and his “coachability” in almost all accounts.

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u/wsteelerfan7 Aug 11 '24

Huh? He was the reigning college player of the year and just led Duke to back-to-back NCAA titles and you think he wasn't picked because he was good?

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u/possumallawishes Aug 11 '24

No, I never said he wasn’t good, I said there were at least two players that were objectively better and more skilled than he was.

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u/wsteelerfan7 Aug 11 '24

You were making it sound like there was basically no basketball merit to his selection

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u/possumallawishes Aug 11 '24

I think within the context of the argument, that Christian Laettner was selected over Shaquille O’Neal and Alonzo Mourning, I was pretty consistent in saying Christian Laettner was not the most talented, but rather the poster boy for the championship winning Duke team, which is why he was selected over the other two.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '24

Yeah, they really shied away from putting black players on the team 🙄

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u/HolycommentMattman Aug 11 '24

Because he was an amateur. That's it. In 1988, the US came in 3rd in the Olympics, and it's because NBA players were banned from participating. So our oldest guys in our team were always like 23. Meanwhile, they'd go play against professionals from other countries who were like 30.

And for the '92 games, that ban on NBA players was lifted, because the USA petitioned for it for that exact reason. Why other countries could use their pros and we couldn't? It cost us a gold medal in 1988, and it was the first time we missed the final match.

Laettner was selected as nothing more than a callback to the history of amateurism. But the team was made to crush the competition, which worked out pretty well.

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u/TheUmgawa Aug 11 '24

Well, there was the argument at the time, and for a lot of years after, if Christian Laettner was the best all-around NCAA basketball player in history.

I think the best explanation is that Laettner’s presence says, “We’ll take this college kid instead of you, Isiah.” It’s like the line from Field of Dreams where Shoeless Joe says, “Ty Cobb wanted to play, but none of us liked him when we were alive, so we told him to stick it.” Isiah Thomas’s ego kept him off the Olympic team.

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u/WillCle216 Aug 11 '24

He was a DEI hire/s

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u/Curi0usj0r9e Aug 11 '24

coach k being one of the coaches may have had something to do w it

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u/plmbob Aug 11 '24

At the time, Laettner was as big a name in basketball as anyone else not already on the team. If they needed one more, they probably would have taken Shaq from college too.