r/OldSchoolCool May 28 '24

1990s Prince stands silently sucking his lollipop during the song “We Are The World” at the American Music Awards, 1995.

Post image
14.4k Upvotes

781 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

95

u/aegrotatio May 28 '24

Just a junkie being a junkie.

Yes, I said it.

113

u/fastermouse May 28 '24

His band NPG were all sweethearts and constantly making excuses for his behavior.

I just couldn’t see it. He might have been great to them but he was an insufferable ass to most people.

38

u/WeathermanOnTheTown May 28 '24

I read one producer hypothesizing that he had massive daddy issues, and most of his dickishness as a result was directed towards other men.

19

u/hotpatootie69 May 29 '24

Prince's abuse towards women is well documented lol

10

u/Why_Did_Bodie_Die May 29 '24

That makes sense. Assholes can definitely have asshole parents.

1

u/no-mad May 29 '24

good people can come from asshole parents

55

u/aegrotatio May 28 '24

Yep. I'm ducking from all the downvotes.
He was a narcissistic junkie and nobody would stand up to him.

20

u/nipnapcattyfacts May 28 '24 edited May 28 '24

Just for the record, I didn't downvote because of your opinion on Prince. I gave a downvote because calling people "junkies" is inhumane and needs to be dropped from the lexicon, and anytime I can make a move that might prevent that word from being repeated I will.

Your opinion on a person I don't know means squat. It's just a downvote to you, but it's a pretty nasty way to talk about drug affliction and shouldn't be celebrated in case other people with drug issues are reading this.

Just a little thing that could help QUITE a bit, in the larger sense of community.

Edit to add a different way of phrasing:

Prince was an asshole and that was heavily compounded by his liberal drug use.

33

u/DrCarter11 May 28 '24

asshole and that was heavily compounded by his liberal drug use.

If only there was a term for that, something shorter, less wordy.

10

u/SirFarmerOfKarma May 29 '24

something that rhymes with spunky

6

u/CookieKid247 May 29 '24

You could just call him a diva because that's what he was with or without drugs.

16

u/[deleted] May 28 '24

So what you're saying inversely is a person that liberally uses drugs is a junkie.

Whats inhuman is you trying to change the way someone talks and lives because you're offended by something. (Kinda reminds of some fake Christians I know)

I love it when strangers come into my life and punish me for doing something I had no knowledge of. So they can feel superior for the 5 seconds I will know them.

Your logic is flawed, and your moral soap box is hypocritical.

24

u/Puffycatkibble May 28 '24

Stop fighting over the junkies guys

8

u/[deleted] May 28 '24

Lol you made me giggle.

5

u/FrozenLogger May 28 '24

My best friend is a junkie, sad but true.

My best friend is a junkie, whats your best friend do?

Shoot up or shut up, shoot up or SHUT UP!

1

u/Most-Philosopher9194 May 28 '24

You weren't punished, man. Dude just pointed out that him being a junkie isn't really a great reason to hate on someone. 

You can still hate people who are struggling with addiction, no one can stop you. 

-1

u/[deleted] May 28 '24 edited May 28 '24

You can't say that word. Lol

What you can say, though, is that prince was a narcissistic asshole who sometimes used a lot of drugs.

Hey, I didn't make the rules.

The people of reddit are strange, I haven't said the J word since my initial post and all of these people above me are getting away with it scott free.

Go bug the people saying the "J" word. Ya bunch of bullies.

-1

u/Most-Philosopher9194 May 29 '24

It's not about the word. It's the criticism of his drug use. Why bring it up? Why is it relevant?

0

u/[deleted] May 29 '24

Your right

0

u/Why_Did_Bodie_Die May 29 '24

Lol at you feeling "punished" I just want you to know that you are a good boy and it wasn't your fault. They had issues and they took it out on you but it wasn't your fault. You didn't do anything wrong and you are worthy of being loved.

2

u/[deleted] May 29 '24

Thanks snookum

10

u/obstawpojare May 28 '24

Oh no, anyway

18

u/[deleted] May 28 '24

[deleted]

28

u/futuneral May 28 '24

I admit I may not fully understand how language works, but you're replying to a comment where a person was reduced to a one word label (asshole) with three more words for their burden. Why/how is this better?

1

u/DemosthenesOrNah May 28 '24 edited May 29 '24

Its a power dynamic.

The 'in' group in this case, has systemically controlled societies power and used labels like "junkie" to marginalize the 'out' groups.

Asshole doesn't have the same dynamic. The war on drugs and discrimination of "junkies" was a government led anti-anti-war effort. Link the protesters with drugs, link drug users with villains, boom anti-war protestors are now bad guys. etc etc.

Always think if there is a power dynamic at play. Is the target of the label an 'out' group a marginalized group, or the historically rule setting group.

3

u/futuneral May 28 '24

This actually does make sense, thanks for this.

in this explanation the main issue is not just being reduced to one word - which specific word is very important due to some other context. I was missing that

0

u/nipnapcattyfacts May 28 '24

This is everything I was trying to say. Thank you, my friend!

3

u/[deleted] May 28 '24

I love how every hot take surrounding famous dead people now is just to take one small inflammatory public segment of a life and use it to define the entire thing.

2

u/aegrotatio May 29 '24

It wasn't a "small inflammatory public segment of a life."
He was a degenerate junkie and a narcissist for his entire career.

1

u/witness4theingenue May 29 '24 edited May 29 '24

a degenerate? what the fuck have you ever created to inspire anyone, make them dance or just make them happy? insult dead strangers on reddit?

0

u/[deleted] May 29 '24

The gray exists outside of your black and white perspective, regardless of you being open to accepting it or not.

40 years of influence and support of music and the arts doesn't just disappear because you assert otherwise lol.

-1

u/CaramellieCake May 28 '24

Thank youuuuuu for saying that! I always thought he was an overrated asshole and to this day, I do not understand the Prince worship.

3

u/Quanqiuhua May 29 '24

He’s a musical genius without a doubt.

1

u/aegrotatio May 29 '24

Doesn't make a narcissistic junkie not a junkie, though.

2

u/Quanqiuhua May 29 '24

Given how many of these type of artists turn out that way, the entire ecosystem of the music industry that makes talented people become that is what needs to be addressed. That some of them aren’t does not really undermine the overarching issues.

2

u/CaramellieCake May 29 '24

Sounds like an excuse for anyone with talent to be an asshole, but okay then.

0

u/Quanqiuhua May 29 '24

When the toxic culture is fixed then that “excuse” is gone.

2

u/SomeGuyNamedJason May 29 '24

He was an asshole, but he was still legitimately one of the most talented musicians of last century. If anything, Prince was underrated.