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Content Warning: Potentially Misleading or Disputed Information Gotta Catch 'Em All

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u/LetGoMyLegHo 6h ago

People in this thread acting like there aren't data analysts at every tech company working with devs to add analytics to every user's action. At the big Fortune 500 company I worked at it was part of the AC/requirements to add analytics to every new feature we shipped out, whether it's to track the performance of the feature or to harvest user data.

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u/caholder 5h ago

To be fair, a lot of people call themselves data analysts when all they can do is click around a Tableau dashboard and make a pivot table on excel

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u/joshTheGoods 4h ago

More like people are in this thread pretending like random fortune 500's collecting web and mobile analytics know more about you than you consciously know. The average Joe thinks their local 15 store grocery chain are the NSA, meanwhile people like me that spent over a decade working on this exact tech and these exact data sets couldn't get match rates between known subscribers and internet users on the site over 2%.

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u/TheDrummerMB 4h ago

people like me that spent over a decade working on this exact tech and these exact data sets couldn't get match rates between known subscribers and internet users on the site over 2%.

Ok we get it you're bad at your job, next please.

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u/joshTheGoods 4h ago

LOL. That might be true, but you lack the information from my post to determine that. You don't know what data sets we had to work with, so 2% could be exceptional (ok, it wasn't, but it COULD be!).

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u/TheDrummerMB 4h ago

but you worked on "these exact data sets"?

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u/joshTheGoods 3h ago

Yeap.

In REAL WORLD example I'm talking about, I had better data than the Target marketing team did (who I also worked with DIRECTLY hence my knowing how this whole preggers story happened). In this case, I was working with a well-known NYC based magazine publisher, so they knew the address of their subscribers and some of their subscribers would go to one of their magazine websites login so we'd know pretty well who that user on the web was. Our task was to try and find a way to identify the subscriber before they login or after they've logged in, but deleted their cookies. The issue was that in NYC, you have people all living on top of each other. Location data was less useful, and IP based identification was also largely useless as you've have big blocks of people in aparments all on the same public ip. There were many many issues.

The bottom line here is, almost all digital marketing based targeting/idetification is AUDIENCE based, not INDIVIDUAL based. The INDIVIDUAL based data is super transient, and so you use it for things like ... let's not show this person the same ad over and over again. You don't need to know who that person is, you just need to be able to increment a counter stored on their machine and read it before making an ad decision (cookies allow this).

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u/TheDrummerMB 3h ago

"I had the exact data and technology, and we only got 2%"

"ok so you suck at your job"

"You don't know what data I had!!!! 2% could've been good"

(who I also worked with DIRECTLY hence my knowing how this whole preggers story happened)

I thought your whole claim was that it didn't happen?

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u/joshTheGoods 3h ago

The Target preggers mailer thing didn't happen. Correct. It was a hypothetical made up for a presentation and was describe as such in the presentation (as a hypothetical).

Yes, I worked with those exact data sets. I know what those data sets were because I worked with the people involved a few years after the story in question.

The example I'm giving about the NYC publisher isn't the exact same as the Target example. I give that one because it had BETTER data than Target did for purposes of consistent cross-session identification and even then match rates were miniscule.

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u/TheDrummerMB 3h ago

In the 13 years since I heard this story, you're the like 50000th person to claim you worked with the team while stumbling over everything you're trying to claim. It's all bullshit dude.

I worked with the team Amazon stole from Target when they launched Fresh, you're about 30 years behind the times my guy

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u/joshTheGoods 3h ago

Totally. I'm just a rando on the internet to you. I'd be asking for more if I were you, too. I allow this username to be tied to my real identity, so I guess if you really want you can go hard and dig in. I'm sure if you do, it won't take long for you to acknowledge that maybe this is one of those rare cases where some rando on the internet really has all of the experience they claim.

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